My little rant.

[TheMullah]

Im on spread timm but ur post made me lol.

I had heath ahead when they first stepped on stage, kais gloss arms and legs but matte chest and abs made him seem way off in terms of conditioning. Phil's midsection was distended and he had no abs. By the end of the night kai was looking full and better conditioned and Phil looked like he was fading badly. Sunday phil looked better than the night before but not by much. It was really close.

[stealth_swimmer]

Kai was equal, if not more conditioned. lol. AND he had the better midsection this time around.

If somebody thinks Phil won, ok, whatever... but your argument is stupid.

His midsection was not better than Phil's.

[WizardsOfAus]

His midsection was not better than Phil's.

Of course not!

[Unbiasedfan]

His midsection was not better than Phil's.

Yes it was, obviously.

[TTimmerman]

His midsection was not better than Phil's.

i'm finally convinced you're just an elaborate troll

[deathmetal1992]

Well, It's official. Phil has to come in way off and Kai has to be dialed in perfectly to win the Mr.O. And by way off, I mean missing a limb or completely offseason.

[spamy]

His midsection was not better than Phil's.

How many fishing rods do you have?

[nturalfreakcy]

The sad truth in bodybuilding... Kai will always be the people's champ while Phil will always be IFBB's champ.. For a second I thought he was palumbo... tsk..

[mike8190]

-The posing routines, with the exception of Kai, are just unbearable. I cringe from the inner depths of my soul when watching most of these guys do the ear wave in the midst of awkward silence or act like hitting a most muscular when the heavy metal starts is supposed to be exciting.

The posing is laughable. I was so mad I missed kai's routine at finals bc of the **** webcast. And even more mad when it came back on and phil was doing his fist pumps after each pose like "FERK EYAR, I GOT THIS!" Wish more people have a classy routine like kai (more artistic) or dorian (just straightforward business). Ronnie is one of the few who can pump up a crowd because of how unbelievable he was. Phil seems to have the confidence, but his narrow bloated physique doesn't do him any justice imo.

I was listening to rx muscle's play by play for a while and I think it was during fred smalls routine (?) they were saying how great of an entertainer and dancer he is lol. I was cringing the whole fuking time.

[mike8190]

His midsection was not better than Phil's.

yeah you just sound like a moron now.

[Gorky88]

His midsection was not better than Phil's.

Did you see the pictures? Or the stream?

He had the worst stomach along with Roelly

[bartosh]

This is why we have a thread reserved for you stealth. Please stick to it to not aggrivate the majority of this forum

[stealth_swimmer]

Did you see the pictures? Or the stream?

He had the worst stomach along with Roelly

Not only did I see the stream, I was there in person for prejudging. And not only did I have pretty good seating withe my view just slightly off center, but the arena had really huge screens to watch the show on for people who were far away.

Phil's stomach was bloated, but Kai's was worse. Not only in the side chest, but in the side ab shot he loves to hit so much. Kai, Phil, and Roelly all had guts this year. Kai's was the biggest, but Roelly's was the most out of proportion, imo. Phil's was a bit more out of proportion than Kai's because he's smaller than Kai, I'll give you that. Kai's was sticking way out at times though. And for those who stress the importance of mandatories, Kai's stomach looked worse in the actual poses.

[stealth_swimmer]

This is why we have a thread reserved for you stealth. Please stick to it to not aggrivate the majority of this forum

Sometimes the majority is delusional and bases their decision on emotion more than anything else. That's why California voted down gay marriage, that's why some states have gun control laws, that's why people's rights are being taken away - cus the majority is sometimes wrong. The majority on the forum may love or hate my opinion, but that won't (and shouldn't) stop me from voicing it.


I also find the lack of consistency of some on this forum ironic. If I agree with the judges, I get told I'm just going along with the IFBB. If I disagree with the judges, I get told that I'm just being contrarian. No matter what I say, some people are gonna be butthurt.

[RockyTheKid]

I also find the lack of consistency of some on this forum ironic.

Kai shows up with a distended gut = "It doesn't matter. All of these guys have some distention 'cause they eat so much."

Phil shows up with somewhat of a distended gut = "OMG MARK HIM DOWN! He shouldn't win! What a travesty! I'm never watching again! BOYCOTT!"

[Unbiasedfan]

Kai shows up with a distended gut = "It doesn't matter. All of these guys have some distention 'cause they eat so much."

Phil shows up with somewhat of a distended gut = "OMG MARK HIM DOWN! He shouldn't win! What a travesty! I'm never watching again! BOYCOTT!"

Kai shows up with a distended gut, we say it doesn't matter unless on mandatoires.

Phil shows up with a distended gut (lol at "somewhat"), we say it doesn't matter unless on mandatories.

[porrapaulao]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TTimmerman again.

[ansatsuken]

Hurr durr but Kai has more mass hurr durr yeah let's completely disregard conditioning and aesthetics when it comes to the most prestigious Bodybuilding competition hurr durr

Lol we ALL know you're only talking about facial aesthetics.

Isnt your forearm sore from last night? Surprised you could even respond actually...

[Anthony.b]

Tim, no one cares about your opinion, negged.










JK. Tried to rep but repped you too recent.

[IronMogul]

LMBO! What in the world?! Repped!

[FAN0FdaSport]

T I like ya mate but if you look at the bigger picture, it's just a bodybuilding contest.
I thought Kai should have won this year for the first time (although I've always wanted him to win).
But alas, it is just bodybuilding and with a swig of my tea I'm no longer annoyed.

This.

I thought kai was better but im not surprised at what happened and I don't care personally about any of the bbers or the judging.

yes I know strong username

[warbird00]

Member since 2009 and still whining about My. O results.

This is definitely the first time I've heard this.

[tom11]

Hurr durr but Kai has more mass hurr durr yeah let's completely disregard conditioning and aesthetics when it comes to the most prestigious Bodybuilding competition hurr durr

I hate this word, but Kai was definitely more "aesthetic" than Phil this year. Especially his front double bicep, it was epic. Tight midsection, peaked arms (biceps AND hanging triceps), flaring lats and quads, it just had flow.

Just because Kai is bigger than Phillip doesn't make Phillip automatically more "aesthetic"

[TTimmerman]

Member since 2009 and still whining about My. O results.

This is definitely the first time I've heard this.

it was more a rant about the attitude of the fanboys we will experience post olympia... i'm in a good mood so won't take a dig at your comprehensive reading skills

[jrhodez]

OP, your posts is one of the reasons Im thinking of just not following this obscure "sport" anymore. Every year it seems more silly. also:

-Obviously faked shenanigans at press conference and prejudging between Kai and Phil because a reputable network has a camera on the IFBB for 30 seconds. we WWE now?

-Branch, Dex and Rhoden were on. Every other competitor was either flat, fat, huge guts, etc

-The posing routines, with the exception of Kai, are just unbearable. I cringe from the inner depths of my soul when watching most of these guys do the ear wave in the midst of awkward silence or act like hitting a most muscular when the heavy metal starts is supposed to be exciting.

-I was really excited to see Ramy with all the promises DJ was throwing out there and, while massive and shredded from the front, just looked smooth and soft from the back. Huge disappointment.

-While the intent of the webcast is good, it's always shty quality, freezes up etc

it's not a fukking sport anymore.

it's a goddamn beauty pageant and social contest.

And anyone who thinks Phil has better shape/aesthetics then kai is just a blind idiot. Literally that is the worst argument you could use for yourself. Not one pic from the olympia shows Phil looking more aesthetic or with better shape then Kai...

[jrhodez]

His midsection was not better than Phil's.

And this, so many pictures prove phils midsection was disgusting, blurry and bloated looking, and your the only one disagreeing with it, no one gives a fuk if you were there. We have HD pics to prove it.

[DPNZ]

I get annoyed at anything that tries to lie to me or mislead me, or that rips people off. I hate dishonesty and corruption.

Then you must hate pro bodybuilding and the fitness industry.

[lee4]

Not only did I see the stream, I was there in person for prejudging.

This can make a huge difference in how the outcome appears. For some reason even a great stream in high def cannot capture what it is like to see these guys in person. Pictures are even worse for some reason.

I'm not trying to say one way or the other who should or shouldn't have won. The lighting seemed to be horrible for prejudging. The stream was really blurry, too.

After watching the stream, I don't see how Phil won. But I also know that there is more to it than what my experience told me.

Honestly, I'm looking forward to hearing opinions from additional relatively unbiased people that were actually there.

[mbamboocha112]

agreed with Tim..woke up at 5 am for this chit..so much politics,my head hurts..won t watch anything else but Arnold classic..the O is shee for me from today on...i pray to God that the judges get cancer and die...or get a car accident and remain paralized....all the negative emotions may hit them...and all the bad karma ge back to them 10 times fold compared to the unjustice today...i pray for their....may GOd bless KAI..heart of a champion..PROUD OF HIM..MR O IN MY EYES NO QUESTION ABOUT IT..NOT EVEN 1% OF DOUBT

[Canuck77]

Heath had one of the biggest guts in the history of Olympia winners, + NARROW + ABLESS in various poses, you have a strange idea of aesthetics. Heath was less conditioned than Kai never mind Wo1f.

It was the worst because at least when Ronnie had questionable gut some years he was like freaky 280+ on stage and still with striations. When a guy is 240 with narrow frame/clavicles and has a gut like a bullfrog it looks 10X worse than someone even like Roelly this year, it just stands out so much. So aesthetically speaking, Phil looked like chit with that alien growing in his belly this year. Kai was more aesthetic, along with conditioned not to mention bigger.