Built 2 Last - Joe DeFranco worth it?

[Thad54Castle]

OK I guess I have two questions for those of you who have seen the book. Doe Defranco expect you to have a pretty accurate 1RM for your core ME movements, or is a conservative estimate OK? BLABA really required a solid 1RM. My plan is to buy Built2Last when my Oct budget starts next week, but if it requires a serious 1RM, that will make a difference for how I spend the weekend!

Yes he wants a very specific 1 rm it's in written in big red letters on page 3 you must know your true 1rm in the bench squat and dl otherwise if you lie to yourself you will **** up the program

[amar654]

Yes he wants a very specific 1 rm it's in written in big red letters on page 3 you must know your true 1rm in the bench squat and dl otherwise if you lie to yourself you will **** up the program

He didnt have the book when he wrote that post bud. Calm down.

[krakkerz]

I've now seen the program. I won't give it up. What I will say is that there is nothing revolutionary. It is quite similar in its approach with a number of recent programs you've seen out there.

It's actually quite similar in structure to what I use outside group work. It's interesting that the more someone puts longevity as the priority, rather than short-term gains, the closer you get to a good sports program.

I think exercise selection is odd and contradicts a few points in the introduction, as well. On the subject of 1RM, this is one area where the book contradicts itself. Joe says it's not a powerlifting program. Then, he demands an exact 1RM. Then, he claims it is designed to increase Bench Press and Squat as a priority. Then, he uses exercises which have only a passing relationship with the original lift.

That said, if you want a decent routine that you don't have to think too much about, this will do the job. If you like to tinker, don't get it.

Edit: Joe is highly knowledgeable and produces good work. This is not meant as a jab. I just think that if you're the sort of person who thinks enough to ask questions on a message board, you're not going to get the value from it. You'll either change it or discard it.

[Thad54Castle]

He didnt have the book when he wrote that post bud. Calm down.

It's a copy paste from page 3 you calm down bud

[Thad54Castle]

I've now seen the program. I won't give it up. What I will say is that there is nothing revolutionary. It is quite similar in its approach with a number of recent programs you've seen out there.

It's actually quite similar in structure to what I use outside group work. It's interesting that the more someone puts longevity as the priority, rather than short-term gains, the closer you get to a good sports program.

I think exercise selection is odd and contradicts a few points in the introduction, as well. On the subject of 1RM, this is one area where the book contradicts itself. Joe says it's not a powerlifting program. Then, he demands an exact 1RM. Then, he claims it is designed to increase Bench Press and Squat as a priority. Then, he uses exercises which have only a passing relationship with the original lift.

That said, if you want a decent routine that you don't have to think too much about, this will do the job. If you like to tinker, don't get it.

Edit: Joe is highly knowledgeable and produces good work. This is not meant as a jab. I just think that if you're the sort of person who thinks enough to ask questions on a message board, you're not going to get the value from it. You'll either change it or discard it.

I found it for free I was a little disappointed I agree

[jameshellis]

I've now seen the program. I won't give it up. What I will say is that there is nothing revolutionary. It is quite similar in its approach with a number of recent programs you've seen out there.

It's actually quite similar in structure to what I use outside group work. It's interesting that the more someone puts longevity as the priority, rather than short-term gains, the closer you get to a good sports program.

I think exercise selection is odd and contradicts a few points in the introduction, as well. On the subject of 1RM, this is one area where the book contradicts itself. Joe says it's not a powerlifting program. Then, he demands an exact 1RM. Then, he claims it is designed to increase Bench Press and Squat as a priority. Then, he uses exercises which have only a passing relationship with the original lift.

That said, if you want a decent routine that you don't have to think too much about, this will do the job. If you like to tinker, don't get it.

Edit: Joe is highly knowledgeable and produces good work. This is not meant as a jab. I just think that if you're the sort of person who thinks enough to ask questions on a message board, you're not going to get the value from it. You'll either change it or discard it.

I am not online too much, just curious what other programs this is similar to and how to find them. Thanks!

[krakkerz]

I am not online too much, just curious what other programs this is similar to and how to find them. Thanks!

When I said " if you're the sort of person who thinks enough to ask questions on a message board" I didn't mean ones asking to be spoon fed.

[richieavella721]

Hey guys , I am a HUGE fan of DeFranco training programs simply because they work . I was doing his Built like a badass program and was loving it, recently I Bought his Built2last program. I can see it is his new style of training but I still like to lift heavy and I dont feel like im old enough to really focus extensivly warming u etc. Do you think I should follow his new stuff or his old program? I will give an example of week 1 of each program.

[krakkerz]

I dont feel like im old enough to really focus extensivly warming up.

This is just plain ridiculous. Extensive warmups aren't used just because someone's old.

[richieavella721]

This is just plain ridiculous. Extensive warmups aren't used just because someone's old.

Well I didnt mean it like that I spend 15 mins on mobilty anyway, I meant it as the program is based around longevity so It has a heavy emphasis on mobility/flexibilty and a slow cooker effect on strength gains you don't really work around 80% 90 % till the last 2 weeks .

[jkhawaja12]

Thanks James. That's very helpful. I'll probably start the program next week, after I buy it and take some time to plan things out.

could you be a nice guy and send me the program of built2last if you bought it?

[jkhawaja12]

Hey guys , I am a HUGE fan of DeFranco training programs simply because they work . I was doing his Built like a badass program and was loving it, recently I Bought his Built2last program. I can see it is his new style of training but I still like to lift heavy and I dont feel like im old enough to really focus extensivly warming u etc. Do you think I should follow his new stuff or his old program? I will give an example of week 1 of each program.

could u send me the built to last program? my email is jkhawaja12@gmail.com

[amar654]

could you be a nice guy and send me the program of built2last if you bought it?

Kid, that is called theft. No "nice guy" will do that

[DCSpartan]

Kid, just do WS4SB and quit begging like a street whore.

[scullin]

This is just plain ridiculous. Extensive warmups aren't used just because someone's old.

Age: 43





































































kidding I'm 43 as well

[jkhawaja12]

Kid, just do WS4SB and quit begging like a street whore.

Jeez brobeans i only wanted to see what the program was like

[jkhawaja12]

Kid, that is called theft. No "nice guy" will do that

Sorry bromigo idk, thanks for telling me, i already got the program tho