Getting Back Into This

[dpsimswm]

Here's a little about me.

* Just lost 29 pounds (from 266 to 237) on a popular weight loss program that included lots of cardio
* Traded a desk job for working from home about 6 months ago
* Former athlete and avid weight lifter (about 15 years ago)
* Have a complete home gym with dumbbells, EZ bar, weight machine, dip machine
* Just ordered a body building program (leaving out the program names)

I know how to lift and people used to refer to me as a "hulk." I am pretty sure that my testosterone levels were fairly high as a young man and I bulked up well with creatine. Now, I think I probably need a boost to my testosterone. So, I have ordered some supplements.

Do these work?

* Fenugreek
* Suma Root Extract

I'm also thinking of ordering these:

* Maca Root (I have goiter. I am worried about this.)
* DHEA

I noticed that the Muscle Milk I am drinking has the BCAA and L-Glutamine that are recommended. Of course, I also ordered creatine. Is this enough to get started?

[dpsimswm]

Here's a little about me.

* Just lost 29 pounds (from 266 to 237) on a popular weight loss program that included lots of cardio
* Traded a desk job for working from home about 6 months ago
* Former athlete and avid weight lifter (about 15 years ago)
* Have a complete home gym with dumbbells, EZ bar, weight machine, dip machine
* Just ordered a body building program (leaving out the program names)

I know how to lift and people used to refer to me as a "hulk." I am pretty sure that my testosterone levels were fairly high as a young man and I bulked up well with creatine. Now, I think I probably need a boost to my testosterone. So, I have ordered some supplements.

Do these work?

* Fenugreek
* Suma Root Extract

I'm also thinking of ordering these:

* Maca Root (I have goiter. I am worried about this.)
* DHEA

I noticed that the Muscle Milk I am drinking has the BCAA and L-Glutamine that are recommended. Of course, I also ordered creatine. Is this enough to get started?

Honestly, I think my biggest gains will come when I cut back on alcohol consumption. I just saw that fish oil can help stimulate muscle protein synthesis. I've got a bottle of that under the sink and will add it to my list.

Any other cheap effective methods?

[djflex]

You need to read up on dhea , that is not for everyone


You really dont need any of that

[dpsimswm]

You need to read up on dhea , that is not for everyone


You really dont need any of that

Will do. Thanks for the heads up.

[joee5]

Good luck brother. I also am attempting a comeback after a 15-16 year hiatus.

[dpsimswm]

Good luck brother. I also am attempting a comeback after a 15-16 year hiatus.

My wife just dropped down to a size 4. So, I have some motivation to keep up.

She also said she didn't want me to look like Mr. Olympia. I laughed. We all know how he got that big.

[dpsimswm]

My wife just dropped down to a size 4. So, I have some motivation to keep up.

She also said she didn't want me to look like Mr. Olympia. I laughed. We all know how he got that big.

Anyone have opinions on Ginger Root, Gingko Biloba, or Saw Palmetto? I picked up some of this from Walmart. I read that Saw Palmetto and Ginger Root can increase testosterone levels. I also read that Saw Palmetto does this by restricting DHT. Concerned about that.

I bought the Gingko Biloba because that I read it increased blood flow.

[TubbyDad]

You should probably get an actual blood test and see what your test levels are before you decide that they need a boost.

[dpsimswm]

You need to read up on dhea , that is not for everyone


You really dont need any of that

I'm reading up on DHEA and it appears to be a potent supplement. I'm guessing it could be used effectively by using it in moderation. I'm thinking that after I start plateauing, I should take a moderate dose for a few weeks and cycle off. That's probably months away.

[thelojones]

Get tested for low T. Don't waste money on sups until you know if your T is low and why. Sup to fix the reason your T is low. If your SHGB is super high or you have too much estrogen that can be fixed easy enough.

Some recent studies showed a lack of sleep to drop your T by 15%

Most all the ingredients in some study or other increased some T a tiny bit, but is that tiny bit worth money? Do you think you will notice a 3% increase in T? If your T is low at 300 is 9 more gonna help? Lets say you take them all and get a 20% boost, you won't notice an extra 60 when the average joe at age 35 to 44 has nearly 700, you'd need a 250% increase to be average.

[dpsimswm]

I'm reading through my new eating program and explicitly calls out soy as detrimental to testosterone output. I've got a cabinet loaded with soy protein from all the major products and even soy protein powder. Soy increases cortisol and estrogen. Decreases T.

[dpsimswm]

from a study found online...

RESULTS:
This investigation observed lower testosterone responses following supplementation with soy protein in addition to a positive blunted cortisol response with the use of whey protein at some recovery time points. Although sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) was proposed as a possible mechanism for understanding changes in androgen content, SHBG did not differ between experimental treatments. Importantly, there were no significant differences between groups in changes in estradiol concentrations.
CONCLUSION:
Our main findings demonstrate that 14 days of supplementation with soy protein does appear to partially blunt serum testosterone. In addition, whey influences the response of cortisol following an acute bout of resistance exercise by blunting its increase during recovery. Protein supplementation alters the physiological responses to a commonly used exercise modality with some differences due to the type of protein utilized.

[TubbyDad]

You seem to be really fixated on testosterone. Are you a hypochondriac?

[Overload]

Personally don't care for soy protein. Get a good whey protein and use that when needed, but not as a sub for real food (fish, chicken, etc.). As it's been stated if you're concerned about test, get tested. Thought mine was low and it wasn't anywhere near low. Just bad diet. Now with better diet and some heavy weight training (heavy for me), feel good. If you don't count the physical ailments from getting back into it.

Good luck and don't get fixated on one topic.