California passes 'yes-means-yes' campus sexual assault bill

[Nitsua24]

So what happens if both ppl are drunk or the man is drunk and the woman is sober? What if two drunk men have sex?

Edit: and also does "saying yes" even mean CHIT? A girl can still just say she didnt day yes and then you're still royally phucked over bc the law sides with females

[LovePollution]

So if you go back with a girl and she starts taking her clothes off and coming on to you, you need to stop her and ask her if she actually wants sex first? Despite the fact that it's obvious she wants it because she's the one instigating it? Lol, she'd look at you as if you were a virgin or something. Stupid law is stupid.

[brahsaurus]

That doesn't make sense though. I'm pretty sure the bill means "yes means yes," not "only a sober yes means yes"

man idk this chits too confusing lol

It actually does mean that. It says sober yes is the only real yes.
This is honestly hilarious because at my school girls are starting to complain that the guys aren't being manly and approaching them at parties lol. Some of the frat guys are basically refusing to have sex with girls who drink any alc.

[FSEC]

libs gon lib. what a fukin joke

[JeffereyTyrone]

Meh. I doubt a jury will say guilty when a girl pulled your dick out and started sucking on it, bill or not. I'm pretty sure the # of girls (date)raped/assaulted exceeds the # of guys with a ruined life because of a fake rape claim.

How would they know?

[unc91]

so now you literally have to stop what youre doing and ask...

"Do you, sloot, want to have sex with me, unc91?"

[MrTonedman]

Strong condoning of date rape In this post.

If the girl is too drunk to say no or yes you probably shouldn't be slammin her

If a girl is drunk and hits on you and you both have sex, willingly. YOU JUST RAPED HER. You shouldn't have sex with drunk girls, PERIOD. [IT'S RAPE] That is what the bill is stating. I'm not accepting the bill, so by your logic I'm approving rape. Alright, Champ.

[sn24]

It actually does mean that. It says sober yes is the only real yes.
This is honestly hilarious because at my school girls are starting to complain that the guys aren't being manly and approaching them at parties lol. Some of the frat guys are basically refusing to have sex with girls who drink any alc.

Well ****, I was gonna rush this fall lmao. Srs, this is fuking stupid. Only way to really protect yourself from this is by having her sign consent forms which is ridiculous. Every girl now is gonna be crying rape.

[Tzaddiq]

So both parties are rapists if neither says yes? Is that even possible?

[COFFEEMUG]

Holy chit did anyone read the link I posted? I swear 90% of you *******s read "Yes-means-yes Law" and think it only applies to fratbros raping chicks that are passed out drunk.

How consent is defined under SB-967.

Under SB-967, a man can be guilty of rape even if the girl doesn’t say no, tell him he is moving too fast, or otherwise communicate that she doesn’t want to have sex.

Again, let’s look at the text of the law: “Affirmative consent” means affirmative, conscious, and voluntary agreement to engage in sexual activity…. Lack of protest or resistance does not mean consent, nor does silence mean consent.”

If a girl is smiling during intercourse, did you rape her? Under the law, perhaps. After all, is a silent smile evidence of affirmative consent?

If you and your girlfriend get drunk and have sex, are you a rapist? Under the new law, yes. “The existence of a dating relationship between the persons involved, or the fact of past sexual relations between them, should never by itself be assumed to be an indicator of consent.”

And lol @ the idea that a jury won't convict people for stupid reasons. Judges instruct juries all the time to make verdicts based on the letter of the law, not their own opinions. Jury nullification is basically non-existent.

[PepperedAngus]

California one step closer to becoming feminist Sweden.

soon enough they will just ban owning/having/using penii altogether, it probably would already have been passed as a law if it werent for all the homers who love the cawk in this state.

[JitnikoVi]

in response to the hundreds of "dont be that guy" posters all across universities (at least here in canada)

[unc91]

So both parties are rapists if neither says yes? Is that even possible?

lol no one cares what the man says.

the way they see it is that sex is something a man does to a woman.

[therealistwat]

California one step closer to becoming feminist Sweden.

soon enough they will just ban owning/having/using penii altogether, it probably would already have been passed as a law if it werent for all the homers who love the cawk in this state.

Soon it'll be "Can't Get Boners After 9PM Assault Bill"

[MURedHawk235]

so if two drunk people bang, did they rape each other?

[AppsBrah]

And lol @ the idea that a jury won't convict people for stupid reasons. Judges instruct juries all the time to make verdicts based on the letter of the law, not their own opinions. Jury nullification is basically non-existent.

Lesser of 2 evils.

[Tzaddiq]

lol no one cares what the man says.

the way they see it is that sex is something a man does to a woman.

So either they are saying that men have much more sober, responsible judgment (very clearly sexist), or that arousal state implies consent. In that case, if you get a girl wet then that's consent enough.

I doubt it's the latter, so clearly these politicians are misogynists.

[COFFEEMUG]

Lesser of 2 evils.

Better that 100 men have their lives ruined than 1 dude have sex with a drunk chick, is that what you're saying?

GTFO with your beta chit. You obviously believe that completely false "1 in 5 college women are raped" statistic that's been parroted by feminists for the last year

[MrTonedman]

so if two drunk people bang, did they rape each other?

The male would be deemed a rapist.

[AppsBrah]

Better that 100 men have their lives ruined than 1 dude have sex with a drunk chick, is that what you're saying?

GTFO with your beta chit. You obviously believe that completely false "1 in 5 college women are raped" statistic that's been parroted by feminists for the last year

Yes, because 100's of men get put in jail daily for false rape claims. No, 1000's of girls get assaulted on a daily basis. I never said this bill is ideal, I said it's better than no bill.

Fuk outta here with distorted arguments fuktard.

[gashead31]

laws like this that go into specifics about what is/isnt consensual are so fukking pointless for two reasons

firstly a women can say something wasnt consensual just because she regrets it afterwards

and secondly this almost always happens when both parties are very drunk, noone can really remember specifics of what each other said and because its sex theirs almost never any witnesses and it just turns out to be his word against hers

[IsThisRealLife]

so if two drunk people bang, did they rape each other?

Only if they are both male.

[sn24]

Read this. Lmao according to this law if she didn't say yes, even after everything she did in the cab, he would have still raped her. What the fuk

[Trigger543]

I read an article about it, it's not as bad as it sounds but still seems to favor women. Supposedly they don't have to specifically say "YES". They can move in closer to you or give you a nod or some bs like that.

Inb4 a future where you have to pull a contract out of your ass and have it signed and notarized before you can have sex

[SonofTh0r]

Isn't this a good thing? Many times they say that if the girl is drunk she couldn't give proper consent so even if she said yes, it still wasn't consensual because she wasn't in control of her actions. This eliminates that. But now it's just a "he said, she said" thing

this, how do you fight that in court?

[GYMPsycho]

pepper thy jimmies

[Slurgie]

This video sums it up:

[COFFEEMUG]

Yes, because 100's of men get put in jail daily for false rape claims. No, 1000's of girls get assaulted on a daily basis. I never said this bill is ideal, I said it's better than no bill.

Fuk outta here with distorted arguments fuktard.

Last time I checked rape and assault are already illegal *******. This bill expands the definition of rape to include things that are not rape.

You are a beta bitch who pedastalizes women.

[J_A24]

in response to the hundreds of "dont be that guy" posters all across universities (at least here in canada)

Yeah that campaign by those feminists was just plain sexist. I still can't believe these people who think in black and white still exist.

[TheIronAsylum]

another reason california is the worst state in th eUS