Isn't the deadlift a pushing exercise?

[HeavyLifts92]

So in my opinion a deadlift os not a pull. A ROW is a pull. So lets get technical:

Definition of a pull is bringing the object closer to you. In DL the bar is as close to you in the start as it is in the finish.(regardless of whether you count your head or your body). Also remember all pulls involve FLEXION and pushes EXTENSION. Deadlift involes knee EXTENSION and hip EXTENSION, therefore you actually push the weight away from the ground.

Is this true? If not please explain in detail.

Thankyou

[GuinnessPower]

Are you not pulling it up off the ground no?

[hanger1989]

Your upper body pulls it and your lower body pushes it. But as it's your upper body that actually has hold of the weight it has to be a pull exercise.

For me deadlift hits my back a lot harder than it hits my legs anyways, so it's definitely a pull exercise.

[Ironface]

Your upper body pulls it and your lower body pushes it. But as it's your upper body that actually has hold of the weight it has to be a pull exercise.

For me deadlift hits my back a lot harder than it hits my legs anyways, so it's definitely a pull exercise.

edit: my bad

Yes it's a pulling exercise

[HeavyLifts92]

Your upper body pulls it and your lower body pushes it. But as it's your upper body that actually has hold of the weight it has to be a pull exercise.

For me deadlift hits my back a lot harder than it hits my legs anyways, so it's definitely a pull exercise.

Thanks for your opinion, anyone else?

[TonyJH]

No you curl it with your big black cock for 72 hours then call Linda's and safkhj ask god for big oenis in but whole i lick a horse nipple ghjj

[k9pit]

My view is Leg push, upper body stabilization. Hip drives forward to lock it out.

Unless your hips shoot up first and you stiff leg it. Then it's a pull.

[HeavyLifts92]

No you curl it with your big black cock for 72 hours then call Linda's and safkhj ask god for big oenis in but whole i lick a horse nipple ghjj

U high m8?

[spicewood1990]

[jack505]

Your legs and hips push. Arms, back and lower back do have some pull in it.

[gomez26]

Also remember all pulls involve FLEXION and pushes EXTENSION.

rows, chins (pulling exercises) etc involve shoulder extension. yet upright rows involve shoulder flexion.

dont over think it & get bogged down by wording classification.

pushes & pulls are linear motions but they are composite curves the result of multiple levers undergoing rotary motion. push & pull are useful categories to group exercises from a practical point of view but they are not fundamental. u will always find exceptions. looking at what muscles are working is the best way to group.

[SuffolkPunch]

This matters .. why?

[HeavyLifts92]

This matters .. why?

Just curious, nothing serious.

[doughnut91]

For the purposes of technique, I think it's beneficial that one considers the deadlift a pushing movement.

As for any other reason, it really makes no damn difference.

[blakhomer]

You have the lower body and you have no upper body, you got a problem building...wait a minute. You have the upper body, and you have no legs, you got a problem building your legs. You have the upper...you have the lower body and you don't have the upper body, the upper body, it is easier to build. So if you have the lower body and you don't have the upper body, it is easier to build the upper body. You have the upper body and you don't have the legs, you got a problem building the lower body... No, you don't understand. You have the upper body, but you don't have the lower body, you got a problem building downstairs. You got the up- legs on the bottom, it is easier to build on the top, so you don't have much as a problem. Yeah.

[Jasonk282]

Thanks for your opinion, anyone else?

you're a dumbass

[kennycroxdale]

So in my opinion a deadlift os not a pull. A ROW is a pull. So lets get technical:

Definition of a pull is bringing the object closer to you. In DL the bar is as close to you in the start as it is in the finish.(regardless of whether you count your head or your body). Also remember all pulls involve FLEXION and pushes EXTENSION. Deadlift involes knee EXTENSION and hip EXTENSION, therefore you actually push the weight away from the ground.

Is this true? If not please explain in detail.

Thankyou

The Deadlift PULL

When asking how much you lift in the Deadlift, no one ask...

"How much did you push?"

They ask...

"How much can you pull?"

That because the Conventional Deadlift is primarily a pulling movement.

THE DEADLIFT: A SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS
http://www.nhomag.com/99_v1_n2_5.asp

Research by Dr. Tom McLaughlin (PhD Biomechanics/Former Powerlifter) has shown that Conventional Deadlifters break the weight off the floor by "Pulling with the lower back."

The lower back, hamstrings and glutes pulling the weight in, back on top of you.

Then the leg drive, quad push, kicks in.

The firing sequence is fast, a "bang-bang" effect.

Push

All a pushing movement does with the quads is drive the bar up vertically.

For the weight to move horizontally back, you have to pull back with the posterior chain.

Lombard's Paradox

Lower body movements present a interesting paradox, ie Squats and Deadlifts.

However, in a Stiff (Slight Knee Bend) Deadlift, the quads are taken out of the movement.

That is because the agonist and antagonist muscles contractions occur together.

In upper body movements, when the agonist contracts, the antagonist relaxes.

Sumo Deadlift

The Sumo is a different animal. Due to the more upward stance, breaking the weight off the floor is more of a quad pushing movement.

Kenny Croxdale

[9863]

you're a dumbass

Oh Snap! lol

[ironwill2008]

So in my opinion a deadlift os not a pull. A ROW is a pull. So lets get technical:

Definition of a pull is bringing the object closer to you. In DL the bar is as close to you in the start as it is in the finish.(regardless of whether you count your head or your body). Also remember all pulls involve FLEXION and pushes EXTENSION. Deadlift involes knee EXTENSION and hip EXTENSION, therefore you actually push the weight away from the ground.

Is this true? If not please explain in detail.

Thankyou

How much "detail" do you require, opie?


Post a vid showing how you 'push' a deadlift off the floor.

[Latsthetics100]

No deadlifts are a pulling and posterior chain exercise since you are pulling it off the floor.

[handyhills86]

The Deadlift PULL

When asking how much you lift in the Deadlift, no one ask...

"How much did you push?"

They ask...

"How much can you pull?"

That because the Conventional Deadlift is primarily a pulling movement.

THE DEADLIFT: A SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS
http://www.nhomag.com/99_v1_n2_5.asp

Research by Dr. Tom McLaughlin (PhD Biomechanics/Former Powerlifter) has shown that Conventional Deadlifters break the weight off the floor by "Pulling with the lower back."

The lower back, hamstrings and glutes pulling the weight in, back on top of you.

Then the leg drive, quad push, kicks in.

The firing sequence is fast, a "bang-bang" effect.

Push

All a pushing movement does with the quads is drive the bar up vertically.

For the weight to move horizontally back, you have to pull back with the posterior chain.

Lombard's Paradox

Lower body movements present a interesting paradox, ie Squats and Deadlifts.

However, in a Stiff (Slight Knee Bend) Deadlift, the quads are taken out of the movement.

That is because the agonist and antagonist muscles contractions occur together.

In upper body movements, when the agonist contracts, the antagonist relaxes.

Sumo Deadlift

The Sumo is a different animal. Due to the more upward stance, breaking the weight off the floor is more of a quad pushing movement.

Kenny Croxdale

I was going to say something but he basically covered it all. No more trollin

[HeavyLifts92]

I was going to say something but he basically covered it all. No more trollin

How am i trolling? Everyones gonna have to learn At some point, so i was just curious and now know that the deadlift is actually a pulling exercise.

[CerebralZen]

So in my opinion a deadlift os not a pull. A ROW is a pull. So lets get technical:

Definition of a pull is bringing the object closer to you. In DL the bar is as close to you in the start as it is in the finish.(regardless of whether you count your head or your body). Also remember all pulls involve FLEXION and pushes EXTENSION. Deadlift involes knee EXTENSION and hip EXTENSION, therefore you actually push the weight away from the ground.

Is this true? If not please explain in detail.

Thankyou

Just my 2 cents:

To Push: A physical force steadily applied in a direction away from the body exerting it
To Pull: A Physical force steadily applied in a direction toward the body exerting it

In the deadlift, there are three points. The Feet, the Lower Back, and the Hands. During activation of this move, the Lower Back becomes the source of the force. Think of the Lower Back as a pulley. When the force is exerted, the barbell is steadily moving towards the Lower Back, the source of the force, not away from it. In this regard, this move is considered a pull. Had the barbell been ahead of the direction of the source of the force, in this case, higher than the lower back, the force would be applied to direct the barbell away from it, then it would be considered a push. In summation, the placement of the barbell as well as the direction it heads in relation to the source of the force dictated the type of movement the deadlift is, not the actual primary force exerted.

[TheIronAsylum]

its actually a sex exercise

[ajm133]

So in my opinion a deadlift os not a pull. A ROW is a pull. So lets get technical:

Definition of a pull is bringing the object closer to you. In DL the bar is as close to you in the start as it is in the finish.(regardless of whether you count your head or your body). Also remember all pulls involve FLEXION and pushes EXTENSION. Deadlift involes knee EXTENSION and hip EXTENSION, therefore you actually push the weight away from the ground.

Is this true? If not please explain in detail.

Thankyou

So pullups are actually pushes because they primarily involve shoulder extension?

Military press is actually a pull because it primarily involves shoulder flexion?

I could go on...

[HeavyLifts92]

Ok im wrong.

[TheMadPhysicist]

Pull by definition: exert force on (someone or something) so as to cause movement towards oneself.

The rest is a thought experiment!!

[k9pit]

Pull by definition: exert force on (someone or something) so as to cause movement towards oneself.

The rest is a thought experiment!!

In that case....So is the BB Hack Squat (or DB or Hex bar squat) a pull or pushing movement?

What about pile driver gobbler style squats? Is this a pull too?

[mobikwa]

Then what are ab crunches? Push or Pull? Guys, I need to know if I should do them on Tuesdays or Thursdays, this is important!

[davisj3537]