Ever seen a 500lb weight set that didn't have 35's?

[yaaar]

Looking to pick up some more weight and found a pretty good deal on some assorted older Hampton weights so I picked them up. Well I thought it was assorted anyway, there weren't any 35's so that gave me the feeling that they were assorted.

Here's the breakdown:

8 x 45 = 360
4 x 25 = 100
2 x 10 = 20
4 x 5 = 20
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Total of 500lbs

So even though there aren't any 35's, it does seem like a complete set. Doesn't seem that this is traditional but I can get any combination of weight out of it.

Suppose it doesn't matter much, they're really nice and I'm going to use them to replace my 300lb set instead of adding to the 300lb set. Just curious if anyone has seen a 500lbs set that came without any 35 plates.

[itsbrad]

I don't think anyone on this forum uses 35s for anything other than maybe a poverty deadlift jack.

[AttyGuy]

I don't think anyone on this forum uses 35s for anything other than maybe a poverty deadlift jack.

Not true. I have 12 35s, out of 1700+ pounds of Oly plates in pounds. I use them on a t-bar row, lat pulldown, etc.

To answer OP, I am more surprised at the lack of 2.5-lb plates than 35s. What brand plates are they?

[irongrandpa]

I've had two sets that didn't come with 35's they had 2x45, 4x25, 4x10, 2x5, 2x2 1/2.

[jdforsy]

IMO 35lbs plates are utterly worthless. I'd rather have an extra 25 and 10 as a replacement.

[yaaar]

I've had two sets that didn't come with 35's they had 2x45, 4x25, 4x10, 2x5, 2x2 1/2.

Good to know, seems that's what I've seemed to come up with. Thanks!

IMO 35lbs plates are utterly worthless. I'd rather have an extra 25 and 10 as a replacement.

Seems the maker of this set agrees! Why do you think they're worthless, just because of having a different sized weight unnecessarily?

[DamonB82]

Not true. I have 12 35s, out of 1700+ pounds of Oly plates in pounds. I use them on a t-bar row, lat pulldown, etc.

To answer OP, I am more surprised at the lack of 2.5-lb plates than 35s. What brand plates are they?

Exactly, perfect for t-bar rows...... Great range of motion without using baby plates.

[yaaar]

Not true. I have 12 35s, out of 1700+ pounds of Oly plates in pounds. I use them on a t-bar row, lat pulldown, etc.

To answer OP, I am more surprised at the lack of 2.5-lb plates than 35s. What brand plates are they?

I'm not too concerned about the 2.5, I'm okay with having that as a one-off.

Here's the set, they're from Hampton. One of the 5's needs to be restored, and the 10's need to be touched up a little bit.

[AttyGuy]

A 255-lb set without 35s should have four each of 10s and 5s. York did this in the 80's after they stopped making 35s.

[ironwill2008]

Not true. I have 12 35s, out of 1700+ pounds of Oly plates in pounds. I use them on a t-bar row, lat pulldown, etc.

They (35s) work great for Deficit Deadlifts too.

[Horgleton]

They (35s) work great for Deficit Deadlifts too.

Yes. I have a stack of 35's that I use to get more depth on hex bar deadlifts. I've found using the low grips and 35 plates lets me get slightly lower than parallel, which feels like the sweet spot. 45's raise the bar a little high. My glutes hurt more when I use the 35's.

[djslik916]

35's are great for landmine exercises and it makes it easier to load up the bar with 25s after the 35lb plate.

[61PWCC]

Due my 'gripping' personality I use 33s/35s cast iron plates for Pinch Lifting and Hub Lifting. I really don't use them otherwise. My 33lb bumpers are a different story...use those quite often.

[Northernmoris]

I don't think anyone on this forum uses 35s for anything other than maybe a poverty deadlift jack.

Not true. I have 12 35s, out of 1700+ pounds of Oly plates in pounds. I use them on a t-bar row, lat pulldown, etc.

To answer OP, I am more surprised at the lack of 2.5-lb plates than 35s. What brand plates are they?

Likewise I have 8-35lb Revolvers and 6-35lb Yorks.

[rthawker]

I only have 4 35's but they are dedicated to my lat/low row machine. I don't use my 45's on the lat machine.

[Rajon25]

Weight is weight. Is a quarter and a dime not equivalent to a 35lbs plate?

[morebarbell]

Looking to pick up some more weight and found a pretty good deal on some assorted older Hampton weights so I picked them up. Well I thought it was assorted anyway, there weren't any 35's so that gave me the feeling that they were assorted.

Here's the breakdown:

8 x 45 = 360
4 x 25 = 100
2 x 10 = 20
4 x 5 = 20
---------------
Total of 500lbs

So even though there aren't any 35's, it does seem like a complete set. Doesn't seem that this is traditional but I can get any combination of weight out of it.

Suppose it doesn't matter much, they're really nice and I'm going to use them to replace my 300lb set instead of adding to the 300lb set. Just curious if anyone has seen a 500lbs set that came without any 35 plates.

I don't understand the point of this thread. They're not serialized collectible plates from the Franklin Mint.

When those plates were available (they're discountinued) they could be purchased individually at many stores ...like 2nd Wind Exercise. Some stores probably sold them in sets. A typical set is two 45s, two 35s, two 25s, two 10s, four 5s and two 2.5s.

Some of the vintage York sets had extra 25s and 10s instead of 35s.

Some commercial gyms don't have any 35s and some do.


....fyi, those plates are from around 2002/2004.

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[KG4NEL]

Weight is weight. Is a quarter and a dime not equivalent to a 35lbs plate?

Yeah, but one option allows for more stuff...

Hence Equipment Forum-approved...

[daniel327]

Weight is weight.

[GarageIron]

York does still offer sets that are not included on the website or catalog that do not have 35 or have multiples of other plates. I don't have the factory price sheet here, but I've called about them before.

I think 35s are a math problem combined with a huge jump in weight for people so they avoid them. Everyone works from 45s on the bar to start their math. If you are jumping up quick, 25s seem the way to go as 70 might be too much and as you add smaller plates later, the 35s become this annoying math issue that many folks need to recount every time they add anything to the bar. I'm not justifying it, just my theory.

45+45+25+10 per side = easy math 295

45+35+25+10+10= paralyzing math 295

Imagine a 405 deadlift starting with 35s? I know guys that would need to call 2 friends to figure that out. Even a 185 bench would send them home.

[matrix563]

I have 20 35's. 24 if you count the bumper plates .

I was going to hook my friend matt up with some more 45's and he said he wanted some more 35's. he only has a pair heh. I know that is not often heard here if at all: want more 35s lol

[DamonB82]

York does still offer sets that are not included on the website or catalog that do not have 35 or have multiples of other plates. I don't have the factory price sheet here, but I've called about them before.

I think 35s are a math problem combined with a huge jump in weight for people so they avoid them. Everyone works from 45s on the bar to start their math. If you are jumping up quick, 25s seem the way to go as 70 might be too much and as you add smaller plates later, the 35s become this annoying math issue that many folks need to recount every time they add anything to the bar. I'm not justifying it, just my theory.

45+45+25+10 per side = easy math 295

45+35+25+10+10= paralyzing math 295

Imagine a 405 deadlift starting with 35s? I know guys that would need to call 2 friends to figure that out. Even a 185 bench would send them home.

That to me sounds like a personal problem. It's simple math period.

[Rajon25]

Yeah, but one option allows for more stuff...

Hence Equipment Forum-approved...

I am not saying that I don't have 35's or use them but I pieced my "set" together and when I did the math on the fewest number of plates to achieve a <3lbs jump for every weight between 45 and 600 and 35's just seemed redundant. Then again I have a pair now so let's see. But I still maintain that weight is weight. :-)

[GarageIron]

It's simple math period.

Which is exactly what I said... yet some people struggle with it. Just like some people struggle with reading comprehension.

[Northernmoris]

But I still maintain that weight is weight. :-)

Like saying Crossfit is Bodybuilding.

[AttyGuy]

. . . But I still maintain that weight is weight. :-)

And food is fuel. Do you believe that too?

[Rajon25]

Like saying Crossfit is Bodybuilding.

Generally any material fashioned into a shallow cylinder with a 2" hole will suffice to load an Olympic bar to varying perceived weights given the effect of gravity on this planet. (I assume most of us are lifting on Earth). I have purchased high end, low end, new, used and everywhere in between weights. Ok, I will agree that when doing heavy olympic movements I would not be using my Ivanko plates no matter how much I love them just as when doing heavy dead lifts the Hi Temp bumpers tend to take up too much room. Ok fine, I will give - not all weight is created equal but many, many things can be weight.

And food is fuel. Do you believe that too?

Yes but like I admitted above about weight, not all fuel is created equally. If it were, everything would be bacon.


But still gravity effects all materials the same way.

[KG4NEL]

But still gravity effects all materials the same way.

[Rajon25]

~snip~

Seeing as you grabbed that off crossfit.com I not going to rule out out of specification abuse. Gravity was probably a contributing factor but the ultimate cause of that failure was probably an inelastic collision of substantial force. That plate also appears to have had some type of material in consistency.

So I don't see what a broken York plate has to do with the discussion of gravity. A pound of feathers weighs the same as a pound of iron. The densities are vastly different but in the end their weights are the same. The original point of this discussion is that 35's are not necessary if you have pairs of 2.5's 5's 4x10's and a pair of 25's. Unless you specifically desire to add 70lbs to a bar with a single plate on each side a ten and a quarter will provide the same perceived force.

[rthawker]

Seeing as you grabbed that off crossfit.com I not going to rule out out of specification abuse. Gravity was probably a contributing factor but the ultimate cause of that failure was probably an inelastic collision of substantial force. That plate also appears to have had some type of material in consistency.

So I don't see what a broken York plate has to do with the discussion of gravity. A pound of feathers weighs the same as a pound of iron. The densities are vastly different but in the end their weights are the same. The original point of this discussion is that 35's are not necessary if you have pairs of 2.5's 5's 4x10's and a pair of 25's. Unless you specifically desire to add 70lbs to a bar with a single plate on each side a ten and a quarter will provide the same perceived force.

Sorry to further derail but I thought I would clarify. That pic actually came from a thread here by a trusted poster from the UK. He is not a cross fitter and actually received the plate in the post like that. Here is the thread and the post where he explains it. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post920420643