Intro
Welcome everyone! I would like to thank everyone who is joining in on this log. During this log I will be attempting to test “overreaching abilities” of CM. I was one of the original promo loggers for CM, in which I received 3 bottles of CM free of charge and completed the 12 week training protocol that CM cites on the bottle. If you would like to check it out, just follow this link http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163. You will also find more about myself in the intro of that log if you are interested. I would like to emphasize that this current log is being run entirely with CM that I myself purchased. I also have some other supplements that I will be using during this log. 1 bottle king, and 2 90serving contains of bio-gro. These are in addition to the 5 bottles of CM that I have on hand ( again purchased by myself and not supplied by MT).
The basic purpose of this log, is that I want to put CMs anti-catabolic capabilities to the test. I will be using a modified version of the overreaching phase cited on the bottle of CM. Protocol can be found at this link http://www.muscletech.com/trainhard/ . I will be using the same basic excercises as this protocol, but since I am not limited to following that protocol exactly, I will also have the freedom of throwing in additional excercises as well. For example if I wanna end my workout with front squats, ill just do some front squats. Or if I wanna superset an exercise with lat pulldowns, I will do that. Just trying to assess CMs ability to support an overreaching/overtraining type training format in general. Also, I will be testing to see how long I can perform the overreaching phase without negatively affecting my lifts. Would like to do 3 weeks straight at least if not 4. This entire log will be supplemented with CM, and additional supps will be added in for 4 week periods of time (equivalent of an entire bottles worth of CM). The tentative supp schedule as well as diet plan can be found below. Again this is tentative and may change depending on what my body is feeling.
Purpose
I am testing CM’s value for use in conjunction with overreaching in general. I will also be looking to test the time interval that CM allows you to overreach while still seeing progress and gains. Interested to see what the threshold point is at which you will actually start seeing negative affects on your lifts. Will then probably do a 1 week taper or so before going into the next overreaching cycle
Tentative Schedule
Heres what I plan to do as far as diet and supp usage
Month 1: aggressive cut, at 1900-2100 calories (about a 700-800 calorie deficit) using CM only. Will try to do the overreaching phase for at least 3 weeks maybe 4 if the body and results allow.
Month 2: depending on where im at with the cut, I may be either continuing my cut or starting a bulk/maintenance phase. Planning ot be using CM together with bio gor during this month, to see if the use of 2 recovery based supplements together will increase the amound of time I can overreach
Month 3: bulking at 2800 calories (200 calorie surplus). Using CM or CM together with King
Month 4:buling (200 calorie surplus with calories adjusted as necessary). If I only used CM in the phase before I will use CM with king. If I used CM with king I will only CM
Month 5: up in the air. Will see where im at. Might try cutting with CM together with king, or may still be bulking. Maybe try doing the overreaching with no supps at all if im feeling up to it, since at this point ill have a pretty good idea of how my body responds to the workouts
Here are some starting pics and stats. These are also the final pics from my promo log and the results of my final lifts.
Stats
weight: 219lbs
Squat: 340x1
Bench: 260x1
Deadlift: 415x1
Starting Pics
I am currently on the second week of this, and have been updating my promo log with the workouts ive been performing. You can check that out if youd like. Ill just be copying and pasting them into here, so they’ll be in this thread shortly. Let me know if you have any questions!
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08-21-2014, 07:56 PM #1
Overreaching with Clear Muscle: Featuring Bio Gro and Cutler King
Last edited by head2; 08-21-2014 at 09:36 PM.
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08-21-2014, 08:16 PM #2
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08-21-2014, 09:24 PM #3Plasma Muscle Log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167948033 (IN PROGRESS)
phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
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Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
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08-21-2014, 09:25 PM #4Plasma Muscle Log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167948033 (IN PROGRESS)
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Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
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08-21-2014, 09:29 PM #5
Monday #1:CM only
(60 second rest periods)
Sumo Deadlifts
293x12,313x9,313x8
Deadlifts
313x8
BB Bench
185x8,185x8,185x8+135x8
Squat Closed Stance
245x8,245x7,205x8+135x8
Pull Ups & Dips superset
Wide grip: x12,x12,x10
&
X20,x25,x20
Bent Over BB Row & Closed Grip Lat Pulldown
135x12,135x12,135x10
&
70x20,80x25,80x20
DB Shoulder Press
50x12,60x8,55x7
Seated DB Curl & Rope Tri Pulldown
30x12,30x12,30x10
&
120x12,120x15,120x15
did deadlifts first today cus the squat rack in my gym was taken. really killed all my deadlifts. downside is that my squats suffered as a result.cant have it all i guess.ha
didnt list the deads as PRs though since they were done first this time as oppposed to after squats and benchPlasma Muscle Log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167948033 (IN PROGRESS)
phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
bio gro log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161404893 (completed)
Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
Clear Muscle + PA http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163700081
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08-21-2014, 09:30 PM #6
Tuesday #1:CM only
(60 second rest periods)
Incline DB Bench
75x8,80x8,80x7,75x6+55x4
Leg Press Closed Foot Stance
360x8,500x8,500x8,550x8
Different machine. Think this sled is heavier than the one I had been using
Military Press
95x8,95x8,100x8 (PR)
Supinated Pull Ups & Dips superset
X15,35x12,x15
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35x15,35x15,x15
one arm DB Row
80x8,80x8,80x8
Bicep Excercise & Tri Rope Pushdown
3 sets of 8 with a weird preacher curl like machine
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120x12,120x15,120x15
Overhead Bi Cable Curl & DB Flyes superset
30x15,40x12,40x12
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30x15,40x12 & DB closed Bench 40x12
Plasma Muscle Log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167948033 (IN PROGRESS)
phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
bio gro log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161404893 (completed)
Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
Clear Muscle + PA http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163700081
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08-21-2014, 09:31 PM #7
Wednesday #1:CM only
(60 second rest periods)
Squat Wide Stance
225x12,225x12,225x12
BB Bench
180x12,175x12,165x12
Sumo Deadlifts
273x12,283x12
Deadlifts
273x12 + sumo deads: 223x12 (was dying)
Pull Ups & Dips superset
25x12,25x12,x12
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25X15,25x15,x15
Bent Over BB Row
105x15,105x15,105x15
DB Shoulder Press
45x12,50x12,50x11
Seated DB Curl & skull crusher
25x12,30x12,30x12
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55x12,55x12,55x12
Additional Bench
135x20
Thoughts
was definitly feeling some soreness in my lower back (from deads on monday) and in my lats from the lat pulldowns ive been throwin in. oddly enough though, although it bothered me outside the gym, once i got into the gym it really didnt affect me and has felt better throughout the day since the workout.so far so good while eating about 1900-2000 calories (700-800 calorie deficit). appetite really hasnt been a problem either. btw,when i did the overreaching phase during the CM promo log i was eating at about maintenace or maybe 100-200 calories bellow maintenance
Plasma Muscle Log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167948033 (IN PROGRESS)
phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
bio gro log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161404893 (completed)
Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
Clear Muscle + PA http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163700081
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08-21-2014, 09:32 PM #8
Thursday #1:CM only
(60 second rest periods)
Leg Press Closed Foot Stance
360x10,450x12,450x12,500x12
Different machine. Think this sled is heavier than the one I had been using
Incline DB Bench
75x12 PR,70x10+55x4,65x10+50x5
Military Press
75x13,75x12,80x12 (PR)
Supinated Pull Ups & DB Pullovers superset
X20,x15,x20
&
50x12,50x15,50x15
--> my pull ups are feeling easier and easier
overhand barbell Row
115x12,115x12,105x15
hammer curl & Close DB Bench & closed grip supinated lat pulldown
25x12,30x12,25x12
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45x12,45x12,45x12
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100x15,90x12,80x12
I prefer doing close DB bench as opposed to BB because I feel my tris being isolated more with the DBs
Plasma Muscle Log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167948033 (IN PROGRESS)
phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
bio gro log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161404893 (completed)
Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
Clear Muscle + PA http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163700081
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08-21-2014, 09:32 PM #9
Friday #1:CM only
(60 second rest periods)
Squat closed Stance
135x4,225x4,295x1,315x1,335x1,345xfailxfail +225x12, (wide stance:225x6)
BB Bench
135x5,205x2,225x1,245x1,260x1,265xfailxfail+135x25 PR
-->wasnt even close on 265. had to grind on 260 and it took everything out of me
Deadlifts
135x5,225x4,335x1,405x1,425xfailxfail
still trying to hit 425 but not getting it. Might just start going for matching my PR 415 untill I can pull that a little easier, instead of just trying to jump up to 425
DB Flat Bench & Lat raises & Front Squats (superset)
50x10,75x5,85x5,90x5,100x4,90x5
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-,-,-,15x12,15x12,15x12
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-,-,-, 135x12,135x12,135x12
Prone Leg Curl
90x20,90x20
Struggled to walk out of the gym after these.lol
Thoughts
not great but not bad. was honestly kinda pleased considering i only got 1400 calories the day before and was out of town all day from 8-1am for the cincinatti ATP tournament. then had to wake up early to get htis workout in because of planned meetings and because i had to leave for St Louis.
Feeling great and not sore at all despite the low cals. also no mental fatigue. 2nd week of overreaching phase is where things started heating up during the promo log, so im interested to see how this next week goes.
Plasma Muscle Log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167948033 (IN PROGRESS)
phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
bio gro log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161404893 (completed)
Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
Clear Muscle + PA http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163700081
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08-21-2014, 09:33 PM #10
Had a great trip in St Louis. Was able to stay in a calorie deficit for all the days except Monday where I put down about 2700 calorie (700 calorie surplus). The fact htat we did some activities on two of the days that involved physical activity helped me to be able to stay in a deficit. Ill just say that htat St Louis city museum is a freaking workout. If you’ve been therebefore you probably know what im talking about. Was basically doing pull ups and dips for 2 hours so that I could fit through all the little coveys and holes.lol. also did a ropes course the next day that was pretty awesome. Highly recommend it. Now to get into the workouts
Tuesday #2:CM only
(60 second rest periods)
Squat Closed Stance
255x8,265x8,265x8+225x8
was a grind but I pushed through
BB Bench
195x8,195x8,195x5+185x3+135x8
I have a video of all this below from set 1 all the way to set 3 continous. You can see me start to fall apart on that 3rd set lol. It hits you all at once for real. Wanted to get as much out of the 195 as possible. 6th rep of set 3 i was just trying to get the bar up for a rerack but that didnt work out as you can see if you watch the video.haha
Sumo Deadlifts
315x8,315x8,325x8 PRs
had to stop for about 15 seconds on rep 6 of the 325x8 to step away for a second. Barely got that 8th rep off the ground for lockout
Deadlifts
225x8 (max velocity)
Pull Ups & Dips superset
25x8 Wide grip: x12,x12
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25x12,25x12,x30
Also wide grip lat pulldowns: 80x15,80x15
Bent Over BB Row & cable pushdown
115x15,115x15,95x15
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50x15,50x15,50x15
cable pushdown felt good in the tris (might’ve been dual pulley)
DB Shoulder Press
60x8,60x7,55x8
Seated DB Curl & close DB Bench
35x8,35x8,35x8
&
50x10,50x10,50x10
leg extension & BB shoulder shrugs & lat raises
70x20,70x20,70x20
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135x25,225x25,225x30
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15x15,15x15,20x12
Also ended by doing a couple sets of cable bicep curls and cable rows but didn’t write it down so I don’t know what the weights or anything like that were
Thoughts
Today was a pretty darn good workout. Wasn’t sure what to expect. woke up about 730 this morning and then hit the road and headed for home without eating breakfast. Decided to hit the gym immediately, so I took some pre and had my normal pre workout snack with some extra pretzels and peanut butter to get some calories in me.ha
Ended up being a much better workout today though than what I had last week. Also recovery is on point and I feel absolutely great right now. No fatigue whether it be mental or physical. Things are looking good at this point as far as pushing the overreaching phase past 2 weeks.weighed in at 212.8 today but I feel like that might’ve been a fluke. I am looking leaner though and am not really having any trouble keepin cals low at the moment
Also a side-note, I will be starting up a new thread for this non-promo log that im doing now, and posting all the workouts in there as well as pictures, starting weight etc. ill just use the final pics from the promo and my final weigh in for all that stuff
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phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
bio gro log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161404893 (completed)
Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
Clear Muscle + PA http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163700081
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08-21-2014, 09:34 PM #11
Wednesday #1:CM only
(60 second rest periods)
Leg Press Closed Foot Stance
360x8,560x8,610x8,630x8
--> significant improvement over last week. dont want to denote as PRs cus ive found that these vary from leg press machine to leg press machine depending on how much the machine itself weighs
Incline DB Bench
85x8,85x7 PRs,75x9,75x6
-->killed the incline bench today. my previous high at 85s was 85x4
Military Press
45x12,95x9,95x8,95x8
Supinated Pull Ups & DB pullovers superset
35X12,45x12,55x8
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65x15,75x12,85x10
overhand bent row & cable crunches superset
95x15,115x15,115x15
hammer curl & skull crusher
35x10,40x8,40x10 PR im pretty sure
&
75x12,75x12,75x12
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Cable oblique ab excercise
Overhead Bi Cable Curl & front squat
40x15,50x12,50x12
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135x12,135x12,135x8
--> first 5 reps of the final sets of front squat were done with a 5 second hold at the bottom
another good workout today. recovery still good. little soreness in my rotator cuff but not bad at all.
weighed in today at 212.6. guess the 212.8 yesterday wasnt a fluke.haha. cals are still being kept low. 1800 yesterday and 1800 today as well. really not having any cravings or hunger issues either which is a pleasant surprise.
aside from workouts though im packing up to go back to college so that a good time. set to move back in on saturday. gonna keep on truckin and killing it in the gym.
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phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
bio gro log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161404893 (completed)
Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
Clear Muscle + PA http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163700081
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08-21-2014, 09:35 PM #12
Thursday #1:CM only
(60 second rest periods)
starting weight: 219
current weight: 212.6
Squat Wide Stance
240x12,240x12 PR,225x12
15lb increase on the first 2 sets over what I did last week. Felt a lot better than last week
BB Bench
185x12 PR,185x7,175x8,155x8+135x7
tried to really push myself today on these. Couldn’t hit the 12 rep after the first set, but I went to failure on each of the sets. 185x12 was still a PR though
Sumo Deadlifts
273x12,283x12,283x12 (extra set over last week)
really focusing on sumo deads for these couple weeks on the higher rep range days to try to be easier on my back. Also I think its very helpful for building up my hip strength.
Deadlifts
223x12 (first 8 were speed reps)
its lighter weight but the deads are feeling good and my back is feeling great. Deads in general have been feeling lighter, I just need to translate that to a bigger 1RM
Pull Ups & Dips superset
Wide: x13,x12,x12
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35X14,35x15,35x6 +BWx15
first 6 reps of the last set of dips were done with a 5 second count on the decline
one arm DB row
65x12,65x12,65x12
DB Shoulder Press
55x12 PR,50x11,40x12
Seated DB Curl & incline close grip DB Bench
25x12,25x12,25x12
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35x12,35x15,35x15
Thoughts
More PRs today despite the low calories (hit 1850 today btw). Weighed in again today at 212.6lbs so I guess my weight yesterday wasn’t a fluke. I think ill be eating plenty of carbs tomorrow so that I can try to hit some big numbers on Saturday. I always carbed up the day before 1RM day, for the most part, during my actual promo log so carbing up tomorrow will allow me to kinda keep daily calorie intake as the major variable. Not a perfect system by any means, but my best attempt to make it a good system.Wanna see how my progress at the 2 week mark with the 700-800 daily calorie deficit compares to what I did at the 2 week mark during the promo when I was eating right around maintenance. Might try to take some videos if im in the gym alone. My only way of taking videos is to set up my laptop because I don’t have a smartphone.kinda inconvenient to say the least
My energy levels aren’t suffering right now, and I feel that I can go as long as I need to in the gym without any fatigue issues which has definitely has not been the case in the past when I have been cutting. Will continue to keep you updated on my progress
Plasma Muscle Log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167948033 (IN PROGRESS)
phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
bio gro log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161404893 (completed)
Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
Clear Muscle + PA http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163700081
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08-21-2014, 09:38 PM #13
all the workouts ive completed to this point have been transferred to this thread and are up to date!
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phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
bio gro log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161404893 (completed)
Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
Clear Muscle + PA http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163700081
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08-23-2014, 12:53 PM #14
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08-23-2014, 08:19 PM #15
Glad to have you!
and I am excited about incorporating king with CM as well. sucks that Ive gotta wait to use it, cus im getting anxious. also thinking about running some ARA with CM.
the cut is going great with CM only so far though so i cant complain. working on the updates right nowPlasma Muscle Log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167948033 (IN PROGRESS)
phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
bio gro log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161404893 (completed)
Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
Clear Muscle + PA http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163700081
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08-23-2014, 10:48 PM #16
Friday #2:CM only
(60 second rest periods)
starting weight: 219
current weight: 211.6
Leg Press wide Foot Stance
360x12,450x12,500x12,520x12 increase+180x30
Incline DB Bench
75x12,75x12 +5lbs & 2 reps+55x4,70x11x10+50x6
75s felt easy on the first set, and then I was able to pump out a second set of 75x12. Last week I had to do 70x10 on the second set.
Military Press
75x13,80x12,65x15
thinkin about switchin these out for overhead presses from now on
Supinated Pull Ups & Dips superset
25X15,25x15,x12
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25x15,25x15,25x9 (slow reps on 5 second count) +15 normal speed
closed grip supinated lat pulldown & tri pushdown
100x20,100x20,100x20
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-,50x20,60x15
hammer curl & incline Close DB Bench
30x12,30x12,35x12
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35x12,40x12,40x12
I prefer doing close DB bench as opposed to BB because I feel my tris being isolated more with the DBs
Thoughts
Was another solid workout with increases over last weeks workout. i went ahead and highlighted a couple of the significant increases. treated this day as a refeed and end up doing around 4000ish calories give or take 200-300. i dont really count calories on refeed days, just eat and try to eat plenty of carbs. honestly it wasnt the funnest of days. i just dont really have a big appetite at the moment, so putting down that many calories after doing around 1900 for a couple weeks, resulted in me just stuffing myself and feeling kinda miserable and fulll. the decreased appetite is a plus as far as cutting though
also, weight was down another pound today compared to yesterday. 211.6 is the lightest ive been in a while. will see how weight is affected by the refeed.
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phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
bio gro log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161404893 (completed)
Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
Clear Muscle + PA http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163700081
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08-23-2014, 11:05 PM #17
Saturday #2:CM only
(240 second rest periods for 1RM stuff. 90ish seconds for everything else)
starting weight: 219
current weight: 217.2
Squat closed Stance
135x8,225x4,295x2,315x1,335x1,345xfail
335 was easier this week, and I got hallway up on 345 before I just ran out of gas and couldn’t drive thorugh it.
BB Bench
135x5,205x2,225x1,245x1,255x1,265xfail,(260xfail+2 25x2+185x6+135x12)
made it halfway up on 260 before failing. Cant get 265 off the chest. Might be mental but not sure
Deadlifts
135x5,225x4,335x1,385x1,415x1+315x6+225x12
415 was a huge struggle. I got it to like the 80% point and then I just had to fight with everything I had to get lockout. Finally got it! Ties my previous PR
DB Flat Bench
50x10,75x5,90x5,100x4,100x5 PR,90x7
Front Squats & max velocity back squats & max velocity BB bench (superset)
135x5,185x5,185x5,165x8
&
-,135x8,135x5,135x5
&
-,-,135x5,135x5
Thoughts
cant complain to much about the workout. maxes are holding up pretty well despite the large calorie deficit. Also, Im having a nice improvement in body composition. scale jumped back up to 217.2 today after the refeed, but im looking leaner and tighter in the mirror. also my lats are becoming more defined and i feel my chest is looking better. all around better. trying to decided whether to hold off for another couple weeks to post pics or if i should just go ahead and take some in a few days and post them. we shall see.
moved into Purdue today and forgot my weight scale at home, so i will be without that for a little bit, and their will not be weight updates during that time. i will continue to eat at a large deficit though so there shouldnt be worries there. im gonna lose weight, i just wont be able to update you on where im at for a bit.
calories today were at like 1400 after the refeed yesterday. i just wasnt hungry and was busy driving to school and then unpacking and settling in to the new apartment. still felt perfectly fine though and was not fatigued/tired or anything like that.
Would like to say that i think im going to modify the overreaching phase again. i decided that i dont want to max out at the end of EVERY week. its just unneccessary in my opinion and is just frustrating in general because it leads to a lot of failed lifts. i think it will be sufficient to test 1RM at the end of the overreaching cycle, or at the end of the taper after the overreaching cycle, whichever. i will replace the 1RM workout with a different workout. maybe a 3-5 RM day for the big 3 and accessory lifts. maybe a max velocity day. maybe ill alternate between those. or maybe ill just write up a random crazy workout for that day and do it. who knows. i beleive all those are better options than testing 1RM every week though. And no, this will not hinder me from being able to see if my lifts are being negatively or positively affected by the overreaching. i will still be able to assess that based on how the other lifting days go.
may be doing another workout tomorrow depending on how bored i am. in another new gym, so hopefully i wont need an adjustment period to their equipment which is different.
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phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
bio gro log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161404893 (completed)
Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
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08-24-2014, 08:19 PM #18
Sunday #2:CM only
(Rest periods kept in 60-90second range)
starting weight: 219
current weight: NA
Squat Wide Stance (max velocity)
135x5,155x5,165x5,165x5,165x5
BB Bench max velocity (with slow 5 count on decline) & BB Back Bend superset
135x5,135x5,135x5,135x5,135x5
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-,135x10,135x10,135x10,135x10
overhead press
95x8,115x8,135x8,155x4
Deadlifts max velocity
225x5,225x5,225x5
Pendleton Rows
135x5,135x10,155x8,135x10
these were done explosively, and I loved the feel of them. Probably gonna sub these in for bent rows from now on
incline BB Bench max velocity
115x5,115x5,115x5
Thoughts
Went ahead and threw in another workout today. Tried to focus on max velocity lifts on the big 3 and then 8+ rep range on accessory stuff. Calories were about 1800 today. Still don’t have a weight scale since I left it at home on accident and iddnt grab it when I packed to move into my apartment for college.
Still going strong and feeling good, so that’s a good sign. Workouts will continue on the normal schedule tomorrow
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phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
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08-24-2014, 11:13 PM #19
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08-25-2014, 03:40 AM #20Plasma Muscle Log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167948033 (IN PROGRESS)
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08-25-2014, 06:29 AM #21
good workout today. still progressing and feeling good even on low calories. just hopin that i wont wake up one day feeling like i got hit by a bus all of a sudden.lol
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08-25-2014, 11:28 AM #22
Monday #2:CM only
(60 second rest periods)
starting weight: 219
current weight: NA
Squat Closed Stance
260x8,265x8,270x8,275x5 +135x12
upped the weight by 5lbs on my first and 3rd set over last week. Also threw in a set of 275. Wasn’t trying to hit 8 reps on that. Honestly just wanted to hit 5 just to throw in an
extra set of squats. So once I hit that I reracked and did a dropset.
BB Bench
195x8,195x8,185x7+185x1+135x10
not much change here
conventional Deadlifts
315x8,315x8,315x8
This was the first time ive been able to get 3 sets of 315x8 on conventional deads. Every other time ive done it, its been with sumos which are easier to rep out in my opinion. Was extremely happy with this effort. Plus I didn’t even have chalk today, so this was done even with my sweaty hands struggling to hold onto the bar at times. Good deadlift day
Pull Ups & Dips (with slow decline) superset
Wide grip: x12,x10,x12
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X12(5second decline),x12(5second decline),x8(8second decline)
just wanted to mess with the tempo on the dips instead of using extra weight, to change things up a bit
Pendleton rows
135x5,135x10,135x10,135x10
were done explosively. Will continue to sub these for bent over rows
DB Shoulder Press
60x8,60x7 + 40x6,50x8
Seated DB Curl & dual cable tri pushdown
30x10,30x10,30x10
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50x20,50x20,50x20
Front Squats (3 second decline and 5 second hold at bottom)
135x5,135x5,135x5
again just messing with tempo of the lift. Want to keep doing something front squat related, just to hit different muscle groups
Thoughts
Was back at the good ol purdue gym today. First day of classes, meant that all the people who only hit the gym around new years resolution time, and spring break time were out in full swing. Somehow I lucked out and didn’t have to wait on anything at all. So that was nice.
Lifts are continuing to trend in the positive direction. Also am not feeling any real soreness at all which is shocking with the frequency and volume of training that ive been doing, combined with where my calories are at. Has me thinking that CM could be very very useful for those that want to cut quickly while maintaining strength. Ill let this continue to play out though and then upload some pictures (either this weekend or next) for you guys to make your own judgement on that.
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phosphamuscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166706951&p=1345995691#post1345995691 (completed)
bio gro log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161404893 (completed)
Clear muscle log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161956163 (completed)
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08-26-2014, 05:57 PM #23
Tuesday #3:CM only
(60 second rest periods)
Starting Weight= 219lbs
Current Weight=? (would guess around 210.5 with the actual weight loss and water loss due to less carbs. also basing thsi off the fact that i hit 211.6 last week right before my refeed)
Incline DB Bench
85x8,85x6+65x4,75x9,55x8 (5 second declines), 42.5x10(8 second declines
Overhead Press
45x12,115x8,135x5,135x8,145x6,135x8,105x12
Leg Press Closed Foot Stance
360x10,410x10,500x10,500x10,
Different machine again. Felt wayyyyyyy heavy. Don’t know if the sled was just way heavier or if my legs were shot. Could’ve been either one honestly
Pendleton Rows & dual Cable Face Pull
135x5,135x8,155x8,165x8,175x6,185x5+135x12
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-,-,50x20,70x15,70x15,50x20
preacher curl & reverse preacher curl & overhead tri extension
50x12,50x12,50x12
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50x8,50x8,50x10
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45x15,45x15,50x20
Thoughts
Not a great workout by any means. Just felt kinda flat today for whatever reason. Not sure if it was fatigue from the frequent workouts and the cut hitting me or not. If I had to guess, I would say it was just a bit of an off day, but the next few days should help to clarify that.
Thinking about eating at maintenance for a day or two possible. Will let you know if that happens or not though. Calories for yesterday were 1850, and todays are gonna be 1750-1800. Doing a lot more walking now that Im on campus again. Lot of 15 and some 20 minute walks. So im probably burning some extra calories over what I normally would from that.
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08-27-2014, 03:18 PM #24
changed things up quite a bit today. Doing the same thing all the time gets boring. Sometimes you just gotta go in the gym and have some fun. Also I think it makes for a better log when its not the same old thing all the time. Lifts were good today so things are still lookin good.
Wednesday #1:CM only
(60 second rest periods-90 second rest periods unless denoted otherwise)
starting weight: 219
current weight: NA
Squat Wide Stance
135x5,225x5,255x3,275x3,295x3,305x1 (took about 3 minutes before this one: ties PR for wide stance)
295x2,275x3,255x3,225x6+135x12
tied my PR with my 305x1. Coulda probably hit 310 but I wasn’t really concerned with setting PR today as much as just getting some solid lifts in without a fail. I enjoyed this a lot though
BB Bench
135x5,185x5,205x5,215x3 ( I think this was actually 5, but id rather lowball it then give myself extra reps) ,225x3, 235x1,
215x4,205x5,195x5,175x6+135x12
same sort of idea as what I did in squats. 235x1 wasn’t really that tough but I didn’t want to push it since I didn’t have a spotter.
DB shoulder Press & incline DB flyes
42.5x6,55x5,65x5,65x3,55x6,65x3+35x8
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-,-,25x12,25x12,25x12
shoulders were pretty tired from all the benching right before. Also the combo of short rest periods probably didn’t help. Some of these were more like 40-45 seconds.ha
DB Flat Bench
55x8,65x8,75x7,55x8
just for fun
Thoughts
Happy with my lifts today and doing something different was definitely refreshing. Probably gonna try to do something similar to what I did with my bench and squat, with deads tomorrow. Other excercises tomorrow will be dips&pull ups, Pendleton rows, probably some leg extensions and curls and whatever else I decide to do. Ill think about it. It wont be the same old routine though I can promise you that
Calories gonna end up at about 1750-1800 again today (decided not to eat at maintenance today cus I was feeling good). Don’t know my weight still but im definitely looking leaner. Progress pics forthcoming soon
BTW, this was like my 8th straight day lifting (every day since last Tuesday) and Im still feeling great.
Last edited by head2; 08-27-2014 at 06:25 PM.
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08-27-2014, 03:26 PM #25
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08-27-2014, 05:40 PM #26
Glad to have you in here!
Also a message to everyone who may be viewing this log. Unless fatigue and soreness just hit me like a ton of bricks in the next week, I think Im just gonna drop bio gro from the schedule altogether for use in the log. Just seems pointless to incorporate it when Im having zero problems with recovery even on low calories. If I can survive the volume and frequency of training now, then i see no reason why i wont be feeling even better when im eating more calories.
I will still use King in conjunction with CM at some point though and Ill make sure that when I do, Im eating an equal surplus of calories ( both CM only and CM and King will be used during a bulk at some point) so that i can assess the additive effects that King has, if any, over using CM only. also contemplating switching the routine up a little bit for when Im bulking but ill address that at another time if it ends up happeningPlasma Muscle Log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167948033 (IN PROGRESS)
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08-27-2014, 06:13 PM #27
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08-27-2014, 06:26 PM #28Plasma Muscle Log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167948033 (IN PROGRESS)
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08-28-2014, 04:11 PM #29
hit 420 today on deads for a new PR
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08-28-2014, 04:47 PM #30
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