Nominate Noah "Siege Fitness" Siegel for a BB.com Program!

[jocwilson]

I just wanted to start a thread on Noah Siegel's workouts. The man knows what he is doing and I think Bodybuilding.com would benefit from having a program by him among the options they provide to us as athletes. I've drawn up a workout based solely on his workout articles and the results have been good so far. Does anyone else agree?

Does anyone know if there is a way to request this sort of thing? It's be great is Noah Siegel himself weighed in on this. Maybe it's not something he would want to do anyways. Hopefully this goes somewhere!

[ironwill2008]

I just wanted to start a thread on Noah Siegel's workouts. The man knows what he is doing and I think Bodybuilding.com would benefit from having a program by him among the options they provide to us as athletes. I've drawn up a workout based solely on his workout articles and the results have been good so far. Does anyone else agree?

Does anyone know if there is a way to request this sort of thing? It's be great is Noah Siegel himself weighed in on this. Maybe it's not something he would want to do anyways. Hopefully this goes somewhere!

Never heard of him. If he's not already a regular poster/contributor to these forums, I see no reason to 'nominate' him for anything.

[TrimLines]

Yea I'd try a program by that guy

[TrimLines]

Never heard of him. If he's not already a regular poster/contributor to these forums, I see no reason to 'nominate' him for anything.

Lmao
Apparently you don't read much on bodybuilding.com but I'm not insulted

[BalyunPex]

Never heard of him. If he's not already a regular poster/contributor to these forums, I see no reason to 'nominate' him for anything.

He's a writer over in the main section --- which is a pretty good reason to doubly not 'nominate' him for anything.

[ironwill2008]

Lmao
Apparently you don't read much on bodybuilding.com but I'm not insulted

No reason why you should feel 'insulted;' I'd imagine there are a lot of posters in the forum who've never heard of you. Maybe that would change if you had a regular presence here.



I tend to avoid anything on that other part of this website. Most of what I've seen over there is based on broscience and gimmicks designed to lure beginners into buying supplements. Many articles there tout information irrelevant to natty trainees, some of it hilariously so. And then that poor information gets dragged over here into the forums, where even more beginners become confused.





Never seen OP post here before either.

[amar654]

His articles are pretty good, I have been using the tips he wrote in his shoulder program for quite some time and the bodypart that was once the weakest part of my physique is now the strongest.

[TrimLines]

I never even knew this existed
I am a writer for bodybuilding.com and Optimum Nutrition.
I don't really agree with you on the Natty comment but articles in the main section of this page are like anywhere else, some pertain to you some dont. Read what does and discard what doesn't. I definitely have a problem with guys whining about things they think are not possible natural. I can't comprehend anything that Tesla or Einstein were able to do but that clearly doesn't mean it's not possible. Certainly in the pursuit of fitness and bodybuilding where ones on challenge should be to better then he was yesterday, I see no need to worry what others do or don't do.

[connorpat1995]

No
it sort of defeats the purpose of a forum to plaster a poster's content all over when he has fewer than 500 posts

Nothing against Noah, I don't read the mainsite articles so I'm unfamiliar with him, but leading voices of the community should be chosen by and from the community itself

[TrimLines]

No
it sort of defeats the purpose of a forum to plaster a poster's content all over when he has fewer than 500 posts

Nothing against Noah, I don't read the mainsite articles so I'm unfamiliar with him, but leading voices of the community should be chosen by and from the community itself

Honestly after a few of these posts I can see there is an attitude I probably don't need to waste my time dealing with around here. As I've said never read these forums but it doesn't seem to be a welcoming place, more judgemental and presumptuous then anything.

[ironwill2008]

I never even knew this existed
I am a writer for bodybuilding.com and Optimum Nutrition.
I don't really agree with you on the Natty comment but articles in the main section of this page are like anywhere else, some pertain to you some dont. Read what does and discard what doesn't. I definitely have a problem with guys whining about things they think are not possible natural. I can't comprehend anything that Tesla or Einstein were able to do but that clearly doesn't mean it's not possible. Certainly in the pursuit of fitness and bodybuilding where ones on challenge should be to better then he was yesterday, I see no need to worry what others do or don't do.

Again, I don't read anything on that part of this website, and based on what noobs post in the forums of what they've read over there, I recommend that others stay away from there as well.


I'll look forward to your greatly increased involvement in this, the 'exercises,' and the 'nutrition' forums. There are hundreds of posters requesting advice by the minute from experienced bodybuilders such as yourself.

You may be surprised at some of the things beginners have been told is important in order to make consistent progress. Or you may not.

[amar654]

Honestly after a few of these posts I can see there is an attitude I probably don't need to waste my time dealing with around here. As I've said never read these forums but it doesn't seem to be a welcoming place, more judgemental and presumptuous then anything.

Yes there are some people on these forums who think they know better than everyone else, but there are far more people who need and require the knowledge that you have to give. Your guidance can and will be a great asset, as someone who has used methods prescribed by you for many months, I know you have good advice to give.

[Cronos1247]

Noah writes some pretty useful training articles, but the sweat pants from his clothing line are really where it's at.

[UnknownPreacher]

lololol. This thread is actually funny. Looks like the writers from bodybuilding.com think we seriously read and discuss articles by them here on the forum?

If they would spent a week on the forums, especially the "workout programs" section they would see why there's such an "attitude". I'm sorry but i treat articles from bodybuilding.com same as articles from mensfitness

[Cronos1247]

I think the issue here is that you guys are lumping all of the writers from the main site here into one category. It's a little ignorant in my opinion to assume ANYTHING is garbage without taking a few seconds to check it out for yourself. Are most of the articles a little over the top from 90% of the writers? Absolutely, but everything should still be checked into before automatically being dismissed.

[TrimLines]

lololol. This thread is actually funny. Looks like the writers from bodybuilding.com think we seriously read and discuss articles by them here on the forum?

If they would spent a week on the forums, especially the "workout programs" section they would see why there's such an "attitude". I'm sorry but i treat articles from bodybuilding.com same as articles from mensfitness

Clearly you have no clue who I am. If you seriously believe I'm on the level of Men's Fitness, the jokes on you and your loss.

[BalyunPex]

Honestly after a few of these posts I can see there is an attitude I probably don't need to waste my time dealing with around here. As I've said never read these forums but it doesn't seem to be a welcoming place, more judgemental and presumptuous then anything.

You were posting in this section as recently as January of last year. Nobody's against you posting here -- if you have something to contribute, feel free to jump in. The need for "special treatment" above and beyond anyone else, is difficult to see. A lot of time here is spent undoing misinformation and poor workout/nutritional advices perpetrated by main site "writers" like Gethin and Stoppani.

Is your off-season dietary fat intake still 60g?

[21infantry]

If you have anything to offer your more than welcome to come a respected member of this board. The old timers on this board seem to be a little suspicious of anything to do with the Industry of Body Building, hell I don't think any of them have even recommended anything other than maybe some Creatine and Protien solutions, and that is even rare, they just recommend to eat and eat healthy I might add.

But I regress, if you have some solid non Bro Science advice without pushing product, we are all ears. I just agree with 95% of the shyte that the old timers say. And the best part its free and solid advice.

[ironwill2008]

Honestly after a few of these posts I can see there is an attitude I probably don't need to waste my time dealing with around here. As I've said never read these forums but it doesn't seem to be a welcoming place, more judgemental and presumptuous then anything.

But what about all the beginners looking for advice here? Surely some forum "attitude" (as you put it) won't deter you from offering your experience to put them on the right path?


And your post is somewhat ironic; who's being judgmental here?




ETA:
RE: your comments on natties vs enhanced trainees. You and I might both know what's up, but beginners certainly don't. When a noob sees a juiced-up Pro tout some supplement, he has no clue that the Pro's development didn't come from the supp. And beginners by the minute post 'rate my routine' threads in this forum taken straight from some Pro's workout. Cutler's double-split, that is currently being touted in the bbdotcom articles section, is just one current example. Hardly anywhere close to what a beginner should be training on.

[21infantry]

But what about all the beginners looking for advice here? Surely some forum "attitude" (as you put it) won't deter you from offering your experience to put them on the right path?

Dude, there is a simple solution to that, and I wish it was a sticky that I could of pressed about 8 months to Starting Strength and Strong lifts, 100% proven programs. But it would be helpful for someone else to point out the sticky to them.

[amar654]

Dude, there is a simple solution to that, and I wish it was a sticky that I could of pressed about 8 months to Starting Strength and Strong lifts, 100% proven programs. But it would be helpful for someone else to point out the sticky to them.

EVERYONE knows those programs exist, they just refuse to follow them.

[21infantry]

EVERYONE knows those programs exist, they just refuse to follow them.

Don't be so sure about that, the only one I knew of was starting strength, when I asked about it on another forum before I became a member here was told it was a shyte program. A novice being miss lead, lucky for me after 3 weeks of a bro split, I ran into somebody in the GYM that I respect from the past and they got me on a novice program, not the best but it was novice. My quest for information brought me here, and I read, read and read some more soon, I figured the BS from the solid advice.

[Jasonk282]

EVERYONE knows those programs exist, they just refuse to follow them.

You might want to check out the workout journal section pal...back to the main site for you.

[Jasonk282]

Noah's "heavy" leg day

extensions 3x12 and 2 sets of 3 drop sets 8, 12, 12
lying leg curls 3x12 and 2 sets of 3 drops sets 8, 12, 12
single leg press 3x 8-10 1x25
box squats 3x8-10 1x5
front squats 2x25
good morning 3x8
SLDL 3x8-10

So the 'heavy' leg day has literally ONE heavy set...LOL The rest are light as fuk 8-10 reppers. This is something some noob would make up...let's toss literally every leg exercise we can in one workout

[TrimLines]

Noah's "heavy" leg day

extensions 3x12 and 2 sets of 3 drop sets 8, 12, 12
lying leg curls 3x12 and 2 sets of 3 drops sets 8, 12, 12
single leg press 3x 8-10 1x25
box squats 3x8-10 1x5
front squats 2x25
good morning 3x8
SLDL 3x8-10

So the 'heavy' leg day has literally ONE heavy set...LOL The rest are light as fuk 8-10 reppers. This is something some noob would make up...let's toss literally every leg exercise we can in one workout

You're exactly the reason I won't help people on here. You have a picture of your gut hanging out as your main profile and you try to mock my articles. Youre a walking talking catastrophe who simply wants to hear himself talk. I surpassed your level of fitness intelligence decades ago and I'm pretty sure I surpassed your physique the day I hit puberty.
Judging me based on a simple easy to read and follow article for no obits is like me judging you on your high school algebra grades.
As I said it's obvious this is not a constructive forum but rather a place for people to try and assert their keyboard powers and show how manly you are.
Lmao please stay behind the keyboard where you belong.

[Big3PlusChin]

Quite funny to see skinny or fat arguing with bodybuilder.

Skinny or fat where is body result? If doesnt have result, why argue and prove bodybuilder wrong?

Have result = better knowledge

[BalyunPex]

You're exactly the reason I won't help people on here. You have a picture of your gut hanging out as your main profile and you try to mock my articles. Youre a walking talking catastrophe who simply wants to hear himself talk. I surpassed your level of fitness intelligence decades ago and I'm pretty sure I surpassed your physique the day I hit puberty.
Judging me based on a simple easy to read and follow article for no obits is like me judging you on your high school algebra grades.
As I said it's obvious this is not a constructive forum but rather a place for people to try and assert their keyboard powers and show how manly you are.
Lmao please stay behind the keyboard where you belong.

Well that was a refreshing display of well-reasoned, persuasive entitlement. Sorry the red carpet wasn't automatically laid out upon mere mention of your name (and author credentials).

You should visit the Nutrition forum, and up your dietary fat intake -- it often improves one's disposition.

[Jasonk282]

You're exactly the reason I won't help people on here. You have a picture of your gut hanging out as your main profile and you try to mock my articles. Youre a walking talking catastrophe who simply wants to hear himself talk. I surpassed your level of fitness intelligence decades ago and I'm pretty sure I surpassed your physique the day I hit puberty.
Judging me based on a simple easy to read and follow article for no obits is like me judging you on your high school algebra grades.
As I said it's obvious this is not a constructive forum but rather a place for people to try and assert their keyboard powers and show how manly you are.
Lmao please stay behind the keyboard where you belong.

With an attitude like that who needs your help in the first place. Your heavy leg day is a fuking joke. I'd rather a noob run 5/3/1 than anything you or other Flex type people push.

LOL. I highly doubt you can match the fitness of a 15 year US Marine that has 1st class fitness and consistently scores in the 260-280 out of 300 range on their fitness test.

yes I have my 'gut' hanging out. A 'gut' that wears a size 32'' jeans and medium shirt.

I'm sure you did past my physique years ago. I personally have no desire to run cell tech...but you gotta do what you gotta do to compete with the 'big boys' and that's fine.

Inb4 100% natty with hard work.

[Jasonk282]

Quite funny to see skinny or fat arguing with bodybuilder.

Skinny or fat where is body result? If doesnt have result, why argue and prove bodybuilder wrong?

Have result = better knowledge

Says the 168 lbs noob. I've got more lean mass than you have actual weight.

good luck copying routines of guys on tech..

[Big3PlusChin]

Says the 168 lbs noob. I've got more lean mass than you have actual weight.

good luck copying routines of guys on tech..

Jasonk282
190lbs, around 23% body fat
Squat 270lbs x 5 in 2012 -> Squat 240lbs x 5 after 2 years

big3pluschin
160lbs, 13% body fat -> 168lbs, 9% body fat
Squat 220lbs x 5 after gym for 6 months.

I dont even use starting strength or stronglifts. Straight to lower upper.

Such a failure.