My dad has been having some back pain issues, was recently laid up in bed for a few days because of them, though today he felt good enough to cut the grass.
I told him (via e-mail) how deadlifting helped me eliminate my back pain, and suggested he consider it, (if cleared to do so by a doctor.)
Was this misguided?
He's 64, but rode over 1000km by motorcycle this summer, and went camping, swimming etc, and was fine. I think he is pretty strong, as he was unbeatable in his weight class in wrestling in high school, and could do 100 consecutive pushups when he was 30. In his 50's, he went winter camping in the Canadian wilderness, pulling a sled of his supplies over the snow. Just last year, he renovated a small house.
He'd be fine deadlifting, starting light and progressing slowly, right?
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08-21-2014, 12:56 AM #1
Should my 64 year old dad take up deadlifting?
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08-21-2014, 01:03 AM #2
64 isn't old,
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08-21-2014, 04:06 AM #3
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08-21-2014, 06:16 AM #4
Does he ever bend over and pick up something off the ground? I suspect he is dead lifting already but not calling it that. The dead lift is a natural human movement. I am not saying go pull 5 plates but Stronglifts 5x5 or something linear starting with a PVC or an unloaded bar would be great of course if cleared by a competent physician.
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08-21-2014, 07:16 AM #5
I've suffered with back pain for almost twenty years and in most cases, being more mobile is better than being static, but having been particularly bad this past year, I'm not currently feeling confident enough to try deadlifts yet. Stretching, like pilates and yoga can be very beneficial and strengthening of core muscles to keep everything stable and aid good posture is also useful, so deadlifts may be very good from that perspective and, if the doctor says it's OK, then it could help a lot.
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08-21-2014, 07:22 AM #6
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08-21-2014, 08:55 AM #8
Lift light, lots of pause reps, learn correct feet/shoulder position and to engage the correct muscles
With an already tender back, the approach obviously needs to be totally different to some young kiddo
Consider getting him in touch with a powerlifting gym to coach and correct his movements, solely because the margin for error is much smaller at that age and fragility
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08-21-2014, 02:54 PM #9
The first issue I'd look at a bit more closely is mobility. In order to deadlift, squat etc. you have to be able to get into the correct position and execute them in the appropriate range of motion. I don't know how flexible your father is but most older guys never give much thought to proper joint mobility and exercise execution. Here's a good start:
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09-27-2014, 05:13 AM #10
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09-27-2014, 01:36 PM #12
Theirs a guy in the gym I go to whose in his 70's that deadlifts every week! He's a real inspiration for long-term lifting success. Get him cleared by a dr. then slowly introduce it to him. Work on his form over a few weeks or months and let the weight go up slowly. If he doesn't like it then leave it alone knowing he gave it a shot!
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09-29-2014, 07:18 AM #13
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09-29-2014, 08:10 AM #14
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Interesting how everyone says 64 isn't old, which I agree with, but when I was 18 it sure seemed ancient
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09-29-2014, 09:28 AM #15
Make sure to stress to him the importance of proper form. A lot of new trainees injure themselves deadlifting because they don't understand how to do it properly. Start off light, and get form locked down before moving on to higher weights.
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09-29-2014, 06:56 PM #16
Another option he might try, is to start out with Rack Deadlifts. Setting a Power Rack bar or a Smith Machine bar just below his knees reduces a lot of the potential back problems he could face. After a while he could just lower the Power Rack etc down another notch and then another till he is coming up off the ground. It usually takes me about 4 months to make such a transition. Bottom line is, he needs to go after Deads one way or another, they are close to Squats as the best things for us.
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09-29-2014, 07:47 PM #17
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10-03-2014, 12:22 PM #21
Go For It!
Well, I took it up at age 70. It's a great feeling to know I am doing something a lot of younger guys can't do.
Just make sure of two things: 1) his doctor gives him an okay, and 2) your dad has a really good trainer who is fanatical about his form and his preparation.
After 60 it isn't good to go into anything without some guidance. Everything takes longer to heal than it used to, so a good trainer will help him keep mistakes to a minimum.
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10-03-2014, 06:35 PM #22
Age is a relative thing.
Some people at 64 can climb Mt Everest
Others at age 64 can barely walk.
So what is most important is his own personal health, past history of ailments, medical clearance and what are his goals ?
I work with people over age 40 these days --- looking for best overall fitness.
I am age 51 and I confess, I no longer do HEAVY deadlifts , HEAVY squats or HEAVY bent over rows.
yes, I still do these motions ..... but I now use only medium weights for these motions and use leg press for HEAVY leg work, seated rowing for HEAVY back and now do lost of hyperextensions for lower back
The reason ?
I am most interesting in maximizing muscle gains while minimizing wear and tear and stress on joints, lower spine compression, etc..
I have worked alongside too many guys my age who refused to stop the heavy lifting in these motions and they are not suffering with back, knee and hip problems
Of course for every person with injuries over age 50 doing these motions -- there will be another who says they don't have any issues and they still go heavy.
That's life and luck
But the point is ... What are your dad's ultimate goals ?
Then evaluate the Benefits-vs- Risks for each exercise as they relate to meeting that goalMichael Spitzer - Author - FITNESS at 40,50,60 and BEYOND
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10-04-2014, 07:55 AM #23
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