Too much volume?

[Kelto10]

Hey, I'm going to start training for the first time tommorow in a gym, on Starting Strength. I'm training mainly to get strong, specifically in my wrist / hand area (grip strength) as this is crucial to my sport. I therefore added a few assistance exercises to help with the growth / strength increase in my forearms. They are:

Towel pull ups
Wrist roller "machine" (thinking of buying one off amazon)
Wrist lever lifts (standing with a weighted stick in your hand with your arm vertical, rotate the wrist up and down)
CoC hand grippers
MAYBE Wrist rotations (high reps, low weight)

I would do these 3 times a week after lifting.

Do you think this is too much volume / too intense for a beginner, or is it no problem? I don't want to overtrain, just get strong hands, wrist and forearms as fast as possible while also doing a full body workout.

Thanks in advance

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A member since 2011 with 1000 posts and tomorrow is your first workout?

[IDrinkBloodLOL]

The hands and forearms are unique - both they and calves can handle basically infinite volume, and may even require lots of volume to grow stronger.

[Kelto10]

The hands and forearms are unique - both they and calves can handle basically infinite volume, and may even require lots of volume to grow stronger.

Can anyone confirm or is it just broscience?

[IDrinkBloodLOL]

Can anyone confirm or is it just broscience?

Well, guy, stop and think about it. This doesn't depend on consensus, it depends on whether or not it's actually true.

Ask yourself: do people who use tools for a living, 8 hours per day, 5+ days per week tend to have puny sad little forearms or do they tend to have huge forearms and hamfists? What would the answer to this question tell you about how one ought to train forearms in the gym for good results?

Secondly, ask yourself this: considering most people in the internet fitness world are training their deadlifts for 1x5, their volume is on the low end. Now ask yourself - is it COMMON or UNCOMMON for people to make threads on fitness sites complaining that their grip is the weak element in the deadlift, and requesting solutions to that problem? What would the answer to this question tell you about how the hands and forearms respond to low volume training?

Now regarding calves, ask yourself - who has the hugest calves you've ever seen, the guy who goes to the gym and does 3x10 on the calf raise machine or someone who used to be REALLY GROTESQUELY FAT and had to walk around with an extra 200 lbs on their body ALL DAY? What does the answer to that question tell us about how one ought to train calves?

As always, don't ask ME, don't ask OTHER PEOPLE, ask REALITY. Unlike the rest of us, reality's answer actually matters.

[silverphoenix93]

The hands and forearms are unique - both they and calves can handle basically infinite volume, and may even require lots of volume to grow stronger.

This. If I can, I'll do forearms/calves every other day, with the occasional breaks. I only do 2 heavy exercises each time though. Some pull exercises will be 5x harder with tired forearms, so time your workouts well.

[Roidmonster55]

The hands and forearms are unique - both they and calves can handle basically infinite volume, and may even require lots of volume to grow stronger.

You've already said it well, but to add to this the forearms & calves have an extremely short contraction. So essentially, every "rep" done on a calf or forearm is actually more like doing a 1/4 rep. So when you at best get a "partial rep" with full ROM, you need to pummel the ever loving chit out of them just to feel productive.

[taxgeek]

Well, guy, stop and think about it. This doesn't depend on consensus, it depends on whether or not it's actually true.

Ask yourself: do people who use tools for a living, 8 hours per day, 5+ days per week tend to have puny sad little forearms or do they tend to have huge forearms and hamfists? What would the answer to this question tell you about how one ought to train forearms in the gym for good results?

Secondly, ask yourself this: considering most people in the internet fitness world are training their deadlifts for 1x5, their volume is on the low end. Now ask yourself - is it COMMON or UNCOMMON for people to make threads on fitness sites complaining that their grip is the weak element in the deadlift, and requesting solutions to that problem? What would the answer to this question tell you about how the hands and forearms respond to low volume training?

Now regarding calves, ask yourself - who has the hugest calves you've ever seen, the guy who goes to the gym and does 3x10 on the calf raise machine or someone who used to be REALLY GROTESQUELY FAT and had to walk around with an extra 200 lbs on their body ALL DAY? What does the answer to that question tell us about how one ought to train calves?

As always, don't ask ME, don't ask OTHER PEOPLE, ask REALITY. Unlike the rest of us, reality's answer actually matters.

This is a great explanation.