IPhone6 5.5" or Note 4 ?

[jinda628]

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Ok.
Where have you been? You've been absent to most iOS vs Android thread? Welcome back lol!

[Miraak]

Nexus 6 will be the true GOAT.

[Couthos]

Latest leaks have the 4.7" iPhone with a resolution of 1472 x 828, and the 5.5" with a resolution of 1704 x 960, and that falls in line with previous sources. The Note 4 is going to be 2560x1440

[jinda628]

Latest leaks have the 4.7" iPhone with a resolution of 1472 x 828, and the 5.5" with a resolution of 1704 x 960, and that falls in line with previous sources. The Note 4 is going to be 2560x1440

I dont know what apple is thinking about this weird resolution. Why not make the 4.7 1080p and the 5.5 1440p as that's how they can catch up with G3 and Note 4 res.

[Krispy1]

I dont know what apple is thinking about this weird resolution. Why not make the 4.7 1080p and the 5.5 1440p as that's how they can catch up with G3 and Note 4 res.

Because IOS sucks at scaling. It's not native to the OS like Android. With android you can scale and it includes native text scaling. In IOS you have to evenly scale so the res can only be 2x or 4x(ideally they need 4x) so they can map 1 pixel and stretch it to 4.

[TallJJ]

I dont know what apple is thinking about this weird resolution. Why not make the 4.7 1080p and the 5.5 1440p as that's how they can catch up with G3 and Note 4 res.

Lol 1472 x 828 is fine on 4.7"

1440p is an overkill and waste of battery imo

[Couthos]

Lol 1472 x 828 is fine on 4.7"

1440p is an overkill and waste of battery imo

it's fine if you are fine with apple charging a premium for something that's not

[Krispy1]

it's fine if you are fine with apple charging a premium for something that's not

It's ok because they will call the 350ppi screens ultra retina and people will be amazed.

[jinda628]

Lol 1472 x 828 is fine on 4.7"

1440p is an overkill and waste of battery imo

I'm kinda expecting this excuse lol!

So you will let apple charge you the same or even higher cost than LG G3 and Note 4 despite having mediocre specs?
Those screen specs is even less than last years' flagship phones which are mostly 1080P.

[westsidelegacy]

Apple does not innovate. So tired of hearing this chit. And do you understand what a corporation is? Of course apple tries to take as much money as they can from you. Apple is good at overcharging, by a lot and probably spending pennies on R&D. iPhones are high-end because they are priced as high-end. I also dont care that your feelings tell you iOS is more stable. They mean nothing.

How does Apple not innovate? The iPod innovated the portable music industry, couple of years later Apple releases a phone that became the base model for every smartphone out there now, the ipad literally created the tablet market. The macbook air was also an innovation that created a whole market by itself.

Innovation takes time, you can't innovate every year, that wouldn't be innovating. Putting a new phone out with 99% the same specs as another one but with a cheaper price and / or a few unimportant features is not innovating ( which is about every single company that apple haters praise ).

It might be because I actually own a company but it's hard to believe people see Apple as not innovating and see companies like Samsung, LG, HP, etc. as companies who are. FFS all they do is release cheaper versions of what every successful company does, that's what actually kills innovation as it's impossible to innovate if you can't profit from it because some oversea company copies your **** and sells it for half the price.

I'm kinda expecting this excuse lol!

So you will let apple charge you the same or even higher cost than LG G3 and Note 4 despite having mediocre specs?
Those screen specs is even less than last years' flagship phones which are mostly 1080P.

This is exactly what this guy is saying vvvvv

Android appeals to two major groups: those that can't afford a top end phone, and those who mistakenly believe they are technologically superior because they value specs over everything else, including real world performance. The marketing for each respective platform and device makes it painfully obvious, if it wasn't already.

I'm not saying better resolution isn't a good thing. But saying I shouldn't buy the iPhone because it has a higher price tag and it's resolution isn't as good as X other phone? Cmon buddy. What if that has an impact on battery which will only be learnt the hard way when the phones are released? Your arguments aren't arguments, you're too biased to have a good conversation.

[EternallyMiscd]

Resolution is a trade-off with battery life, which is a trade-off with size, weight etc. Anything more than the eye can see is unnecessary and only serves to impress those that are too stupid to realize it. The iPhone resolution should be bumped up, because although they call it a Retina display I can make out some fuzziness if I get close enough, but it doesn't need to be by much.

You're an idiot if you think you can discern 1080p or 1440p on your 5-6 inch screen - it's simply marketing to sucker in people who go crazy over specs, which make up a large portion of hormonal teenage boys who think they are on the cutting edge of technology that frequent these forums. It's funny how people think Apple is so successful at marketing (which I admit they certainly are) without realizing how badly they are getting fooled by meaningless specs.

Samsung spent $14 BILLION dollars in marketing in 2013, far more than Apple or anybody else, to sucker in idiots like the ones in this thread. It seems like their success has been directly correlated with their advertising spend (luring in idiots with specs and gimmicks), although they have peaked and are on the decline now, because the market can only be fooled for so long.

As for this charging premium bull****, last time I checked the flagship Samsung phones are as much as or even more than iPhones...and they are still made of ****ty plastic, use TouchWiz which is terrible, and have close to zero resale value. So please tell me what kind of premium Apple charges for phones which are clearly made with the best materials, have the best warranty coverage and fetch the highest dollar by far on the resale market?

[MiscMathematician]

How does Apple not innovate? The iPod innovated the portable music industry, couple of years later Apple releases a phone that became the base model for every smartphone out there now, the ipad literally created the tablet market. The macbook air was also an innovation that created a whole market by itself.

Innovation takes time, you can't innovate every year, that wouldn't be innovating. Putting a new phone out with 99% the same specs as another one but with a cheaper price and / or a few unimportant features is not innovating ( which is about every single company that apple haters praise ).

It might be because I actually own a company but it's hard to believe people see Apple as not innovating and see companies like Samsung, LG, HP, etc. as companies who are. FFS all they do is release cheaper versions of what every successful company does, that's what actually kills innovation as it's impossible to innovate if you can't profit from it because some oversea company copies your **** and sells it for half the price.

Uh, apple steals things from android too. How are you liking iOS's notification dropdown? . I',m firm on my point that apple doesn't innovate. The iPod was an innovation, sure. So was the first 2 or so iphones. Now they're the call of duty of smartphones. At least samsung is taking risks by putting in tons of (possibly useless) but brand new features. I am grateful for apple for two things, my ipod classic and that they provide competition making far superior phones (which cost probably doube to manufacture) like the galaxy note available for cheap.

[Couthos]

I'm not saying better resolution isn't a good thing. But saying I shouldn't buy the iPhone because it has a higher price tag and it's resolution isn't as good as X other phone? Cmon buddy. What if that has an impact on battery which will only be learnt the hard way when the phones are released? Your arguments aren't arguments, you're too biased to have a good conversation.

You are literally blind to the fact that apple charges more for less. 1440p has an effect on battery on the SnapDragon 801, but not the 805 which was meant for it.

Lol at you talking about the resolutions effect on battery life when android flagships also include much larger batteries which allow for days of use. I can go two days without charging my phone... iPhones have awful battery life and this one will probably be no different. It's fine if they spec them that way, and the OS is great, but the OS goes to even the older devices so why is it that they charge up to $1000 ($400 on contract) for a device with 64GB of storage, low resolution screen, small battery, low megapixel camera when others are doing it for much less?

Obviously every company is out to make money, but apple's proffit margins are out of this world because they charge more for less.

[UnflappedAcorn]

getting iphone 6 regardless

[jinda628]

The ignorance in this thread is unbelievable

5.5 screen iphone vs any android equivalent (G3, Note 4, Nexus 6)
Low resolution < High resolution
Small battery < Huge battery
A8 CPU = Snapdragon 805 or Exynos 5433 8 Core 64 bit (Now lets assume this to be equal even if its not just to avoid new arguments)
Standby and Talk Time is EQUAL (We will assume apple will have equal battery time with android despite the smaller battery due to smaller screen res)

Estimated price with plan: $299 vs $299 (Again just an estimate but I'm sure its close. Would you pay the same price for a mediocre specs?)
Outright purchase (No plan): $800 for 4.7 and $1000 for 5.5 (This is the rumored price for iphone models)
$600-700 (This is the rumored outright price for Note 4)

Is that fair or stupid?

[mackd]

Nexus 6 will be the true GOAT.

This. No Nexus, No care.
I love my Nexus 5, only gripes is camera and battery life. Hopefully Nexus 6 has Wireless charging aswell.

[Dollabill7]

OneplusOne = GOAT

Lol at inviteless peasants


jk rep me and mebbe I giff you one

went from note to oneplus and it's soooo hnnnng. It's like a mix between a nexus (Which I've also had) and a note without a stylus, which is the only piece I wish I had really.

brb laughing at contracts
brb telling my provider to smd
brb so aesthetic and fits perfect in big hands
brb 48+ hours heavy usage on one charge
brb it ****in prints money

[TallJJ]

I'm kinda expecting this excuse lol!

So you will let apple charge you the same or even higher cost than LG G3 and Note 4 despite having mediocre specs?
Those screen specs is even less than last years' flagship phones which are mostly 1080P.

Apple does rarely offer the highest available specs in any of their products. But the user experience is always one of the best. I have a HTC One M7 myself so 1080p @ 4.7" and 720p would have been fine as well. Yes it's cool to have, but if my battery would last an hour longer I could live with 720p. Can barely tell the difference.

720p -> 1080p means you are powering twice as much pixels.
Going from 1080->1440p is nearly a two fold increase as well.

It's good for innovation and prices of such panels but in reality you barely benefit.

[Couthos]

Apple does rarely offer the highest available specs in any of their products. But the user experience is always one of the best. I have a HTC One M7 myself so 1080p @ 4.7" and 720p would have been fine as well. Yes it's cool to have, but if my battery would last an hour longer I could live with 720p. Can barely tell the difference.

720p -> 1080p means you are powering twice as much pixels.
Going from 1080->1440p is nearly a two fold increase as well.

It's good for innovation and prices of such panels but in reality you barely benefit.

again someone implying iPhones have good battery life. They Don't. Apple can underclock the processor and put a small battery in the iPhone and it will last less than a day on charge

Meanwhile LG/Samsung/HTC/Motorola/one plus and who every else provide a high resolution display, over clock the processor to push the pixels without issue, and provide a larger battery as well as optimize the OS to achieve better life.

What you end up with is an ultra premium display that can last up to 2 days on a charge with heavy use and multitasking(something iOS does not even offer). And it will cost the same or LESS than the iPhone 6. Your HTC one is 1.5 years old and you are comparing it to something that comes out next month with a better screen and very comparable battery to what you get on iPhone - I know because I have one myself (in addition to my new device). That's an issue

I'm not the typical android drone/ apple hater. I'd love to give the new one a shot and try out all the new iOS features - but the cutbacks they make on hardware are unforgivable when you look at what others do at the same or even lower prices

[freeburn]

My LG g3 gets better battery with a 1440p screen then my s3 did. And it definitely lasts longer then my girlfriends poverty iPhone 5s. That bish lives near a phone charger

[hyphenbulldog]

when the fuk is nexus 6 coming out, half my screen is broken i can barely hold on any longer

[Impregnator]

looks like we'll have to wait till sept 3rd for more info on the note 4, unless we get some massive leakage.
right now, my eyes are on the note 4 unless htc comes with something better. Boomsound > all

[JaxBrah]

Hangouts is great particularly if you have the person on Google+ or their email - it is a lot more iMessage like, but iMessage still blows it away in picture and video messaging. There is no compression on images and like he said you can even send gifs. Hangouts has a lot of compression and a small limit for videos - I always end up having to send those through whatsapp instead. iMessage is the only thing iOS has on Android IMO

What kills hangouts for me is the fact it doesnt have a popup reply. Like a very very standard feature. I use sliding messaging or gosms for that sole reason

[BrollicWraith]

Secure biometrics that actually work (to be used for payments shortly), best app ecosystem, iMessage, HomeKit, HealthKit, best real world performance, best build quality, best warranty/customer service >>>>> "customization", "openness" (including to malware), 8 cores, 1080p Ultra HD screens (on a 5.5" screen..LOL) etc. etc.

Apple includes things that actually benefit the customer rather than fill a spec sheet for nerds to ogle over.

Android appeals to two major groups: those that can't afford a top end phone, and those who mistakenly believe they are technologically superior because they value specs over everything else, including real world performance. The marketing for each respective platform and device makes it painfully obvious, if it wasn't already.

Quality post

I've never understood how people can be more obssessed with 'specs' than real-world performance

[mr4wdTRD]

My LG g3 gets better battery with a 1440p screen then my s3 did. And it definitely lasts longer then my girlfriends poverty iPhone 5s. That bish lives near a phone charger

i stayed with my iphone 5 for this very reason. even with the latest ios, the 5s's have a pretty bad battery life. which i dont understand because if i remember correctly, the 5s battery is slightly higher capacity than the 5.

[mr4wdTRD]

again someone implying iPhones have good battery life. They Don't. Apple can underclock the processor and put a small battery in the iPhone and it will last less than a day on charge

Meanwhile LG/Samsung/HTC/Motorola/one plus and who every else provide a high resolution display, over clock the processor to push the pixels without issue, and provide a larger battery as well as optimize the OS to achieve better life.

What you end up with is an ultra premium display that can last up to 2 days on a charge with heavy use and multitasking(something iOS does not even offer). And it will cost the same or LESS than the iPhone 6. Your HTC one is 1.5 years old and you are comparing it to something that comes out next month with a better screen and very comparable battery to what you get on iPhone - I know because I have one myself (in addition to my new device). That's an issue

I'm not the typical android drone/ apple hater. I'd love to give the new one a shot and try out all the new iOS features - but the cutbacks they make on hardware are unforgivable when you look at what others do at the same or even lower prices

your points are valid up and to the point that people prefer different OS. what the hell is the point of a 1440p res on a phone? LOL seriously? you cant see a difference between 720 and 1080 let alone 1440 on a small ass screen. so it makes absolutely no sense to me to pixel peep.

I've gone back and forth between iphones (since the original iphone) and android sets and just straight up prefer the iphones.

These are the reasons i stay with iphone over any android set, despite the spec differences:

1) imessage - you can claim imessage isnt important. but its huge. especially when im sending full res photos/videos to family of my kid. imessage bypasses carrier restrictions on resolution and therefore sends a full res image/vid. thats a LOT easier than uploading to dropbox or youtube and sending an elderly family member a link that theyre too stupid to click to open, let alone know how to save.

2) in my personal experience, iOS is more stable. - ive seen all the reports that some of the latest android OS are more stable than iOS. i dont buy it. i had a terrible experience and will never ever go back. since ios7, my iphone has not crashed once. Since the pangu jailbreak, its not crashed or required a respring due to error once. my androids crashed once a day at least. Lets say you bought a Ford, and it was constantly breaking down and in the shop, taking time out of your day and always inconvienent. Would you ever buy another ford? i wouldnt.

3) Battery life - i cant comment on the new android sets, but in the past my iphone battery life was night and day better. My S3 couldnt last 5-6hrs on LTE without nearly burning a hole in my pocket before dying completely. and lets be honest. who the ful carries around an extra battery or wants to use a bulky battery case.

4) itunes match - i dont know if google play has anything similar to this. they didnt when i had android sets. but being able to stream any music you purchased from any apple device is pretty sweet.


I dont hate android. in fact, i think what these other manufacturers, Samsung, LG, HTC etc. are doing is great, because at least with iphone 6, they forced a screen size change. which is one gripe ive always had with iphones. I just prefer an ios device over what my perception of android is. Their reputation after i tried a few of their phones was completely ruined and ill likely never go back.

[freeburn]

i stayed with my iphone 5 for this very reason. even with the latest ios, the 5s's have a pretty bad battery life. which i dont understand because if i remember correctly, the 5s battery is slightly higher capacity than the 5.

maybe she has a 5 tbh i am not 100% sure. she usually has the newest apple everything so i assume 5s

4) itunes match - i dont know if google play has anything similar to this. they didnt when i had android sets. but being able to stream any music you purchased from any apple device is pretty sweet.

google radio/music does this. you can listen to literally anything you want on any device you want, but you can only download music you've purchased to listen offline. you can legit stream anything in googles music database for free.

imo google radio is the best paid music app out right now. i prefer it over spotify or pandora or anything else.



i think we all can understand why you might not need a 1440p screen or ir blaster or SD card, but fact is isheep sit here and pay a premium for a technically inferior (in almost every way) product and then have the nerve to say its a better product, when it isn't better in any way. edit: except apparently imessaging, its better in that way.

[Wu-Massacre]

I hate how Imessage is know as such a great invention when Imessage is the reason why both Android users and Ios users can't have a fluid group chat together.

[Couthos]

your points are valid up and to the point that people prefer different OS.

I don't want to ignore the rest of your post but this wasn't at all the point of my post. I know people prefer iOS - my point is why do we have to settle for hardware drawbacks just to experience iOS. I don't know what you experienced, but right now your average Android flagship screen obliterates the "retina display". Right now the average android flagship obliterates any iphone in battery life. And right now the average Android set obliterates iphones in offered storage space and storage options.

KitKat is already extremely stable, and with the coming of android L it is only going to become more stable and a lot more efficient because they developed a new, much more efficient runtime. It will basically be revamped from the ground up. Google is making a huge effort to close the gap on what iOS does better, and widening the gap on what it already does better...

Meanwhile apple doesn't seem to care as much about improving their shortcomings. It sucks my friend.. Hopefully I am wrong because we don't know everything about the iphone 6 yet - but disappointment in the new iPhone has been the trend for me and a lot of people I know for the last 3-4 iphones

Also you can definitely tell the difference between 720/1080 on 4.7".. 1440 is another story i'm not sure you can

[mr4wdTRD]

I don't want to ignore the rest of your post but this wasn't at all the point of my post. I know people prefer iOS, I just said i'd love to give iOS8 a try, and i love iMessage as well. The hardware drawbacks are what potentially hold me back. I don't know what you experienced, but right now your average Android flagship screen obliterates the "retina display". Right now the average android flagship obliterates any iphone in battery life. And right now the average Android set obliterates iphones in offered storage space and storage options.

KitKat is already extremely stable, and with the coming of android L it is only going to become more stable and a lot more efficient because they developed a new, much more efficient runtime. It will basically be revamped from the ground up. Google is making a huge effort to close the gap on what iOS does better, and widening the gap on what it already does better...

Meanwhile apple doesn't seem to care as much about improving their shortcomings. It sucks my friend.. Also you can definitely tell the difference between 720/1080 on 4.7".. 1440 is another story i'm not sure you can

As i mentioned before. at this point, with the size of screens on phones. higher resolution is 100% irrelevant. 720p is more than you can decipher with your eyes as is on such a small screen. increased resolution does nothing but 1) make it more difficult for devs to properly code across multiple handsets, 2) increase in resource handling to accommodate larger screen size, and 3) decrease battery life due to rendering images in higher res.

I wont deny that a larger screen is absolutely better. No question about it. but calming the "title" of best screen based solely on res is moot. It doesnt matter at all past 720p. it is only a detriment to overall performance. There is literally no way the human eye can tell a difference between 720 and 1080 on a 4.7" screen. Please provide empirical evidence to support that claim. ill wait.

iOS performs VERY well in benchmarks despite the higher spec'd hardware because the OS is optimized for that hardware. The issue with the android sets, is simply that the model disparity makes it tremendously difficult to code and optimize for across the entire install base. Having worked in software for many years, i can tell you its far easier to code and optimize across 3 or 4 different devices than dozens.

regarding storage. while the iphone does not have removable storage, its not an option i care about. When i buy my phones, i always get the 32GB. which for my needs is far more than i need. The 5.5" iphone 6 is rumored to have a 128GB option. This is a step in the right direction for power users. As well as a significant increase in battery capacity. All rumors right now, but if supply chain is any indicator, its almost a sure bet.

im really not arguing that the iphone is a better option. everyones needs are different. if anything, im arguing that they are pretty much on par with any current flagship Android set in a real world application. if you dont remove the preinstalled bloatware, the phones are hampered by dumb **** running in the background eating up resources. that doesnt exist in iphones and for me, personally, thats a plus.

The customization front always makes me lol too. Sure android is open out of the box, but in order to really mess with it, you still need to root. You can jailbreak your iphones too, and in less than 30 seconds be running cydia and do just as much customization.