Someone seriously explain to me how sex changes aren't ****ed up.

[BloodofDante]

This is one of the things that makes me feel like i'm in the Twilight Zone. Everyone else is acting like trans people are completely normal and having a sex change is cool and not a sign of mental problems, etc.


I can't even.

[AHUGECAT]

What's so bad about it? Let them live the way they want to. What harm does it do to you? Seriously grow up.

Your kind is gonna be history soon. Homophobics will be a thing of the past, or at best on the fringe of society. Thank goodness!

[SAILBRO]

das it

[BloodofDante]

What's so bad about it? Let them live the way they want to. What harm does it do to you? Seriously grow up.

Your kind is gonna be history soon. Homophobics will be a thing of the past, or at best on the fringe of society. Thank goodness!

Location: Santa Barbara, California

[djbalance]

What's so bad about it? Let them live the way they want to. What harm does it do to you? Seriously grow up.

Your kind is gonna be history soon. Homophobics will be a thing of the past, or at best on the fringe of society. Thank goodness!

tranny detected

[QuakerOatsBrah]

I don't know many people that think it is completely normal or "cool"

[Augment]

It's people just taking the piss brah
calm down

[AHUGECAT]

Location: Santa Barbara, California

And? You wanted to be explained to why sex changes aren't messed up and I did.

There is nothing wrong with it. How does it affect you?

[Luc1fer]

Pretty interesting read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexualism

The androgen receptor (AR), also known as NR3C4, is activated by the binding of testosterone or dihydrotestosterone, where it plays a critical role in the forming of primary and secondary male sex characteristics. Hare et al. found that male-to-female transsexuals were found to have longer repetitions of the gene, which reduced its effectiveness at binding testosterone.[18]

A variant genotype for a gene called CYP17, which acts on the sex hormones pregnenolone and progesterone, has been found to be linked to female-to-male transsexualism but not MTF transsexualism. Most notably, the FTM subjects not only had the variant genotype more frequently, but had an allele distribution equivalent to male controls, unlike the female controls. The paper concluded that the loss of a female-specific CYP17 T -34C allele distribution pattern is associated with FtM transsexualism.[19]

[ImAlexBrah]

People can do what they want to themselves. But those videos/time-lapses of the process are ttterrrriiibbbllleee. oh lawd.

What bothers me is we're supposed to 'support' these individuals and their choices. It's ok for them to get extreme surgery and undergo hormone treatment for the rest of their life. But for us, it's extremely illegal to take a little cell tech.

[BloodofDante]

And? You wanted to be explained to why sex changes aren't messed up and I did.

There is nothing wrong with it. How does it affect you?

You didn't explain anything. You basically said "get over it".

[Tears]

What's so bad about it? Let them live the way they want to. What harm does it do to you? Seriously grow up.

Your kind is gonna be history soon. Homophobics will be a thing of the past, or at best on the fringe of society. Thank goodness!

****ing lol

[RainingBlood]

What's so bad about it? Let them live the way they want to. What harm does it do to you? Seriously grow up.

Your kind is gonna be history soon. Homophobics will be a thing of the past, or at best on the fringe of society. Thank goodness!

Do you really not see how having your dick chopped off and turned into a vagina is bad?

[thebeagle]

I agree, but more people have a mental disorder then regular people.. Seems almost everyone's phucked in some way or another

[AHUGECAT]

You didn't explain anything. You basically said "get over it".

You never explained how they were "****ed up." It's their choice - so what? It makes me mad when people like you discriminate like this.

[RainingBlood]

You never explained how they were "****ed up." It's their choice - so what? It makes me mad when people like you discriminate like this.

Are you comfortable with the thought of having your penis turned into a vagina surgically?

[Tears]

You never explained how they were "****ed up." It's their choice - so what? It makes me mad when people like you discriminate like this.

Why don't you let him have his own opinion.

[AHUGECAT]

Do you really not see how having your dick chopped off and turned into a vagina is bad?

Why should a man who is gay, and wants to be a woman, stay a man?

It's like telling someone they can't lift. "Sorry kid - you're too fat, gotta stay fat!" Now you're just telling someone "Sorry kid - you're a man, gotta stay a man!"

Quit being discriminatory.

[AHUGECAT]

Why don't you let him have his own opinion.

Because it leads to hate. I am willing to educate you guys though, because I do hate hate.

[TeamPoverty]

Why should a man who is gay, and wants to be a woman, stay a man?

It's like telling someone they can't lift. "Sorry kid - you're too fat, gotta stay fat!" Now you're just telling someone "Sorry kid - you're a man, gotta stay a man!"

Quit being discriminatory.

terrible analogy of peace.

[jazi]

Why should a man who is gay, and wants to be a woman, stay a man?

It's like telling someone they can't lift. "Sorry kid - you're too fat, gotta stay fat!" Now you're just telling someone "Sorry kid - you're a man, gotta stay a man!"

Quit being discriminatory.

haha quality trolling I was SO close to negging.

[Kingofthepitch]

I myself think it's both disgusting and unnatural, and this is coming from a guy that usually leans left on social issues, especially those regarding personal freedoms.

That being said, let them do what they want. Like the other poster said, it's more phucked up that sex-changes are more supported than natural male enhancements (dat dere, and other banned supplements.)

[RainingBlood]

Why should a man who is gay, and wants to be a woman, stay a man?

It's like telling someone they can't lift. "Sorry kid - you're too fat, gotta stay fat!" Now you're just telling someone "Sorry kid - you're a man, gotta stay a man!"

Quit being discriminatory.

Your comparison to weight loss is ridiculous. Being fat is unhealthy. It's unattractive. Being a man/woman is not unhealthy or unattractive.

[Tears]

Because it leads to hate. I am willing to educate you guys though, because I do hate hate.

Your kind is gonna be history soon. Homophobics will be a thing of the past, or at best on the fringe of society. Thank goodness!

Again, ****ing lol.

[ctownballer04]

Why should a man who is gay, and wants to be a woman, stay a man?

It's like telling someone they can't lift. "Sorry kid - you're too fat, gotta stay fat!" Now you're just telling someone "Sorry kid - you're a man, gotta stay a man!"

Quit being discriminatory.

Not sure if excellent quality trolling, or you are just full retard.

[AHUGECAT]

Your comparison to weight loss is ridiculous. Being fat is unhealthy. It's unattractive. Being a man/woman is not unhealthy or unattractive.

Actually being forced to be something you're not IS mentally unhealthy.

The Social Construction of Gender Roles:

"Knowledge and meanings are not stable or constant, they are co-constructed in interactions with others, they are negotiated, modified and shifted. People are active in their perception, understanding and sharing of knowledge acquired from their social milieu. In the end, it is necessary therefore to consider process as the main perspective when explaining the social construction of knowledge, including the knowledge about gender. This focus results in showing how individuals differ in status, entitlement, efficacy, self-respect and other traits based on the kind of interactions one is involved in and subjected to. Social constructionist perspectives tend to be based on social hierarchy and meant to preserve a status or position of influence rather than what is empirically shown to be valid. Children learn at a very early age what it means to be a boy or a girl in our society. Through myriad activities, opportunities, encouragements, discouragements, overt behaviors, covert suggestions, and various forms of guidance, children experience the process of gender role socialization. It is difficult for a child to grow to adulthood without experiencing some form of gender bias or stereotyping, whether it be the expectation that boys are better than girls at math or the idea that only females can nurture children. As children grow and develop, the gender stereotypes they are exposed to at home are reinforced by other elements in their environment and are thus perpetuated throughout childhood and on into adolescence (Martin, Wood, & Little, 1990). A child’s burgeoning sense of self, or self-concept, is a result of the multitude of ideas, attitudes, behaviors, and beliefs to which he or she is exposed. The information that surrounds the child and which is internalized comes to the child within the family arena through parent- child interactions, role modeling, reinforcement for desired behaviors, and parental approval or disapproval (Santrock, 1994). As children move into the larger world of friends and school, many of their ideas and beliefs are reinforced by those around them. A further reinforcement of acceptable and appropriate behavior is shown to children through the media, in particular, television. Through all these socialization agents, children learn gender stereotyped behavior. As children develop, these stereotypes become firmly entrenched beliefs and thus, are a part of the child's self-concept."

Gender Dysphoria in Children:

"Children as young as age two may show features that could indicate gender dysphoria. They may express a wish to be of the other sex and be unhappy about their physical sex characteristics and functions. In addition, they may prefer clothes, toys, and games that are commonly associated with the other sex and prefer playing with other-sex peers. There appears to be heterogeneity in these features: Some children demonstrate extremely gender nonconforming behavior and wishes, accompanied by persistent and severe discomfort with their primary sex characteristics. In other children, these characteristics are less intense or only partially present (Cohen-Kettenis et al., 2006; Knudson, De Cuypere, & Bockting, 2010a). It is relatively common for gender dysphoric children to have co-existing internalizing disorders such as anxiety and depression (Cohen-Kettenis, Owen, Kaijser, Bradley, & Zucker, 2003; Wallien, Swaab, & Cohen-Kettenis, 2007; Zucker,Owen, Bradley, & Ameeriar, 2002). The prevalence of autisticspectrum disorders seems to be higher in clinically referred, gender dysphoric children than in the general population (de Vries, Noens, Cohen-Kettenis, van Berckelaer-Onnes, & Doreleijers, 2010). Mental health professionals should not dismiss or express a negative attitude towards nonconforming gender identities or indications of gender dysphoria. Rather, they should acknowledge the presenting concerns of children, adolescents, and their families; offer a thorough assessment for gender dysphoria and any co-existing mental health concerns; and educate clients and their families about therapeutic options, if needed. Acceptance and removal of secrecy can bring considerable relief to gender dysphoric children/adolescents and their families."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_...ord_.26_Popp-3

[Tears]

Actually being forced to be something you're not IS mentally unhealthy.

Do you have any idea what kind of slippery slope that is?

[AHUGECAT]

Do you have any idea what kind of slippery slope that is?

Explain.

[Kingofthepitch]

What's so bad about it? Let them live the way they want to. What harm does it do to you? Seriously grow up.

Your kind is gonna be history soon. Homophobics will be a thing of the past, or at best on the fringe of society. Thank goodness!

I find anti-homophobes to be a lot more discriminatory of "homophobes" than so called "homophobes" are to gays.

[Tears]

Explain.

Where do you draw the line regarding what a person considers normal or "natural"?

I'm not comparing transsexuals or transgenders to criminals, but there are plenty of murderers out there who will tell you they were born that way.