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    Originally Posted by elias1877 View Post
    isnt this a law against trespassing? or did u mean we dont have the right to shoot someone who does trespass?

    ******tlight.ca/laws/the-laws/provincial-law/ontario/trespass-to-property-act/

    Trespass to Property Act, 2.:
    Every person who is not acting under a right or authority conferred by law and who,
    (a) without the express permission of the occupier, the proof of which rests on the defendant,
    (i) enters on premises when entry is prohibited under this Act, or
    (ii) engages in an activity on premises when the activity is prohibited under this Act; or
    (b) does not leave the premises immediately after he or she is directed to do so by the occupier of the premises or a person authorized by the occupier,
    is guilty of an offence and on conviction is liable to a fine of not more than $2,000. R.S.O. 1990, c. T.21, s. 2 (1).
    Talk to your bro here, according to him it isn't a crime to trespass. I can only imagine he has this impression because that's how it is there, otherwise, why the **** would he think that?

    Originally Posted by theoldnite View Post
    So much for innocent until proven guilty? It isn't a crime to be near your trailer.
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    Originally Posted by Murrmanski View Post
    lmao at pulling a gun and screaming at them and threatening to blow their brains out is considered de-escalating. I never mentioned trying to hurt them. There's nothing wrong with holding a person down, punching them being a last resort.
    Nobody got hurt OP's way. The way you're proposing has the potential for one or both parties to come off injured.

    Why get physical?

    Edit: Well I guess OP's way had the potential for one to get injured too.. Fuk I dunno.
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    Originally Posted by theoldnite View Post
    Also is it legal to detain someone for walking near your camper? (assuming that it is just a campground site, too less information given)
    Camper is with several others in a secluded area off a secondary road, in which you have to drive across someones lawn to get to the dirt road that leads to the clearing. As in, not somewhere you would be if you were just wandering around.

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    Originally Posted by Murrmanski View Post
    lmao at pulling a gun and screaming at them and threatening to blow their brains out is considered de-escalating. I never mentioned trying to hurt them. There's nothing wrong with holding a person down, punching them being a last resort.
    You prefer using physical violence to words. Most people don't.
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    Originally Posted by blumpkin415 View Post
    Its called Trespassing, and yes, it is illegal.

    So is breaking into a camper, a shed, taking things, and staying in someone else's residence. Its called residential burglary



    Yes, it is legal, and see above
    yes we all know what trespassing is, Canadians aren't actually retarded. My question was I don't see how holding someone against their will is legal and if you have reference to this, by all means post where I can point guns at people who are on my lawn and not let them leave
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Talk to your bro here, according to him it isn't a crime to trespass. I can only imagine he has this impression because that's how it is there, otherwise, why the **** would he think that?
    nah he's a retard. based on the article i read other than being able to use a gun (which might be a law here, but i doubt it) it seems we have the same trespassing laws as you. he seems confused.
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    Originally Posted by Murrmanski View Post
    There's nothing wrong with holding a person down, punching them.
    You have some anger issues that need to be addressed.
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    Originally Posted by Smithers115 View Post
    yes we all know what trespassing is, Canadians aren't actually retarded. My question was I don't see how holding someone against their will is legal and if you have reference to this, by all means post where I can point guns at people who are on my lawn and not let them leave
    Citizens arrest?

    Eg.

    California Penal Code section 837:

    837. A private person may arrest another:

    For a public offense committed or attempted in his/her presence.
    When the person arrested has committed a felony, although not in his presence.
    When a felony has been in fact committed, and he or she has reasonable cause for believing the person arrested to have committed it.
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    Originally Posted by Lewwwww View Post
    Nobody got hurt OP's way. The way you're proposing has the potential for one or both parties to come off injured.

    Why get physical?

    Edit: Well I guess OP's way had the potential for one to get injured too.. Fuk I dunno.

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    I don't know every american laws but could you technically shot him without getting in trouble because he was on your property? A exchange student from Germany who was in America was shot by a guy after he entered his garage . It happened in Montana. He said he feared for his life...
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    Originally Posted by Smithers115 View Post
    yes we all know what trespassing is, Canadians aren't actually retarded. My question was I don't see how holding someone against their will is legal and if you have reference to this, by all means post where I can point guns at people who are on my lawn and not let them leave
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    Originally Posted by Murrmanski View Post
    There's nothing wrong with holding a person down, punching them being a last resort.
    You sound dangerous.

    I'm sure physically attacking somebody is totally safe and will not harm them in any way lol
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    not gonna get into the whole gun chit storm...but I will say I laughed so hard at that first pic. That is the campest looking detained position I have ever seen
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    Originally Posted by Smithers115 View Post
    yes we all know what trespassing is, Canadians aren't actually retarded. My question was I don't see how holding someone against their will is legal and if you have reference to this, by all means post where I can point guns at people who are on my lawn and not let them leave
    So in your world, holding a criminal by gunpoint is illegal?
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    Originally Posted by JDilla93 View Post
    I don't know every american laws but could you technically shot him without getting in trouble because he was on your property? A exchange student from Germany who was in America was shot by a guy after he entered his garage . It happened in Montana. He said he feared for his life...
    Notice location? We crazy.





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    Originally Posted by blumpkin415 View Post
    After about 5 minutes he moved his hand and started going for his pocket, yelled "KEEP YOUR GODDAMN HANDS OUT OF YOUR POCKETS! OUT TO THE SIDE!"

    He said, "I can't even get a smoke man?"

    Me: "If you move your hands again i'll smoke you"

    He didn't move his hands again
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    Originally Posted by JDilla93 View Post
    I don't know every american laws but could you technically shot him without getting in trouble because he was on your property? A exchange student from Germany who was in America was shot by a guy after he entered his garage . It happened in Montana. He said he feared for his life...
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    Originally Posted by JDilla93 View Post
    I don't know every american laws but could you technically shot him without getting in trouble because he was on your property? A exchange student from Germany who was in America was shot by a guy after he entered his garage . It happened in Montana. He said he feared for his life...
    Property? Nope.
    In your house? That's a different story.
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    Originally Posted by JDilla93 View Post
    I don't know every american laws but could you technically shot him without getting in trouble because he was on your property? A exchange student from Germany who was in America was shot by a guy after he entered his garage . It happened in Montana. He said he feared for his life...
    No. Not the way you wrote it. You can't just shoot somebody for being on your property. He didn't break into OP's residence or living space and did not attack OP (possibly because of the presence of a firearm as a deterrent)
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    Originally Posted by blumpkin415 View Post
    Would you expect a cop to do that when detaining a felon?



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    Of course I stay safe, thats why I kept him 21 feet away and put him on the ground at gunpoint instead of doing something stupid like tackling him or decking him.
    You have been asked this question a few times but haven't answered it: What would you have done if he ran away from you? Shoot him? Tell him in a stern voice to halt?
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    I'm stupefied by the number of people who have a problem with what he did. So it's okay to break into someone's place and steal their stuff, but if the owner detains them at gunpoint, he's an ahole.

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    Would've done the exact same thing if someone had broken into and slept inside of my car while I wasn't around.

    Should've learned his lesson the first time around. While I don't agree with the OP's c0cky demeanor, he did the right thing.
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    Originally Posted by jason_bh View Post
    I don't know of any state law that will allow you to shoot a person while they are fleeing. Good luck proving to a jury that you were 'in fear of your life' in a situation like that.

    This is what I was going to say, but the circle jerk was too strong to risk negging. Still glad you caught his ass though.
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    Originally Posted by billyblanks100 View Post
    You have been asked this question a few times but haven't answered it: What would you have done if he ran away from you? Shoot him? Tell him in a stern voice to halt?
    First post and knows that OP has been asked questions a few times.

    No alternate account detected. Seems legit.
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    My cousin knew the guy who was shot in Montana. It's not that big in the news anymore can someone tell me how likely is it that Markus Kaarma goes to jail?
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    Originally Posted by billyblanks100 View Post
    You have been asked this question a few times but haven't answered it: What would you have done if he ran away from you? Shoot him? Tell him in a stern voice to halt?
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