Gifted Nutrition destroyed on Iron radio

[bartosh]

yeah I agree. unfortunately they're pretty expensive

Vpx sro actually breaks down to afforable price per gram. 87 servings for$70 or something like that. Great tasting also

[FAN0FdaSport]

^ON is garbage? What brands do you buy? I'm looking for something very thin (aka 1 scoop per every 2-3 oz water and it's not thick). ON is the thinnest I've found so far. Cellucor is thick (7 oz water per scoop)

I am slight intolerant to lactose. ON has given me issues and Designer Whey...my god. I bought a jug once. Tasted awesome. However, couldn't figure out why i was sick like clockwork 30 min after the shake. I'm talking literally hunched over in pain sick. Switched protein...no problem at all.



A lot of the "thickness" has to do with the emulsifiers they put in to make it seems thicker and creamier. One of the well known ones is xantham gum. Dymatize is very thin and so is Isopure. Just look for xantham gum in the ingredients and there's one other they use that escapes me at the moment. If they have one of the two, stay away.

Dymatize is the best protein ive ever tried as far as lactose sensitivity goes. The protein ive used mainly for shakes for a long time.

[Fittler]

I dont want to or need to. It is microdosed EAA's and Beta alanine which wont do a thing. There is more food coloring than caffeine.

And they bag on taurine and Tyrosine which have hundreds of studies ranging over a gamut of benefits. They need to start doing some research because there is not a single "clinically dosed" ingredient

I agree, there is nothing appealing about the product whatsoever, the market is saturated with these kinds of products.

No hate on phil, he is just trying to make money like everyone else in the world, but I can't understand why they didn't just copy a product like pre-jym or similar??

Put decent amounts of proven supps in and no proprietary blend

That way you get business from the kids who will blindly buy it anyway AND it appeals to people who are more educated about supps.

[cedricnumerouno]

Why talk **** if you havent tried them. You have no idea how well they work.

Never understood that.

We can see the nutrient profiles, and unless Phil is adding something extra that he ACTUALLY uses, they are the same old garbage that has been recycled forever.

[Glenn Gould]

Hey Phil, Dexter, Jay, and all the other Olympians who've started their own "unique" brand of supplements: How about TRYING TO DO something different ? Or at least, something innovative that hasn't been attempted before? I don't want to see 3 dozen more supplement lines appear before I die, I want to see our sport in the Olympics, or in the sports' section of the newspaper.

[RockyTheKid]

Hey Phil, Dexter, Jay, and all the other Olympians who've started their own "unique" brand of supplements: How about TRYING TO DO something different ? Or at least, something innovative that hasn't been attempted before?

Like what, for example?

[cedricnumerouno]

Like what, for example?

Phil Heath Signature Anabolics

[Denar11]

The powers I had no problem with are my protein in UK. USn. Allmax.

I think the problems come from fillers.

[Denar11]

Phil if u want my 2c u should have done it online only, low cost, premium product. Ie volume sales to knowledgeable consumers.

[T3mpest]

Hey Phil, Dexter, Jay, and all the other Olympians who've started their own "unique" brand of supplements: How about TRYING TO DO something different ? Or at least, something innovative that hasn't been attempted before? I don't want to see 3 dozen more supplement lines appear before I die, I want to see our sport in the Olympics, or in the sports' section of the newspaper.

You do realize your not supposed to use "supps" in the olympics right or get paid for what you do.. The olympics for bodybuilding would be have to be unpaid natural athletes. Some sports like BBall and soccer have gotten around that rule but it takes time and appealing the committee. Even if guys in other sports of the olympics do use supps, they at least don't always look like it. Bodybuilding will NEVER be in the olympics only reason it was ever brought up in the 70's is because supps werent' banned yet because they weren't that popular. Russian weightlifters dominated when they figured supp usage out lol.

[spamy]

Hey Phil, Dexter, Jay, and all the other Olympians who've started their own "unique" brand of supplements: How about TRYING TO DO something different ? Or at least, something innovative that hasn't been attempted before? I don't want to see 3 dozen more supplement lines appear before I die, I want to see our sport in the Olympics, or in the sports' section of the newspaper.

Can't be done, regular supps are for mainstream use and regular joes. That's why on the boards dedicated to real competitors, supps are at the bottom of their discussions, with little to no interest. Training, recovery, food and especially special supps are prioritary there.

[MrSilverback]

Dymatize is the best protein ive ever tried as far as lactose sensitivity goes. The protein ive used mainly for shakes for a long time.

The only thing it lacks is emulsifiers. That's OK though. I have a separate jug of xantham gum that i add to it when I make a shake. The cinnamon bun flavor is hngggghhhhh

Can't be done, regular supps are for mainstream use and regular joes. That's why on the boards dedicated to real competitors, supps are at the bottom of their discussions, with little to no interest. Training, recovery, food and especially special supps are prioritary there.

^Couldn't agree more

I only ever use 3 supplements

1) Creatine
2) BCAA's (when dieting)
3) Whey protein

Everything else is just a decent multi and food.

[Champion Chad]

Everyone has to remember that the best bodybuilders on the planet don't get compensated close to what a middle of the road professional athlete in other sports do. They put their bodies through hell and take a lot more chances than almost any other sport. The only lucrative way to stay connected to this scene or make a living is by opening a supplement or clothing company. They would rather the money be in their pocket than a sponsor. Who can blame them.

I have seen people comment on protein qualities on here and if you are lactose intolerant or sensitive then a middle of the road popular protein won't work for you. That is common knowledge to most and lactose is still present. The most popular products, preworkouts, proteins etc are chosen by the consumer. The bulk of consumers go off of taste texture and stimulant rush. Not what is correct. Educate people so this isn't the future. The companies have made money off of ignorance and misdirection. That has slowly been changing though. Disclosed ingredient dosages are showing up more and more and lucrative products like the Jym line which are heavily dosed are becoming more popular. Hopefully this stays a trend.

[x-trainer ben]

some free advice....

check your lactose tolerance sensitivity. Im full blown lactose intolerant since day 1 lifting and have tried a few brands early on. I do add lactase pills to shakes myself, even when they already label lactase enzymes on their product. ON and Gaspari are garbage lol, just chit really. Anyone with lactose sensitivity would notice drinking that stuff.

I never bought the pills, but know i am intolerant to a degree. My point was that i** have to actually use( not read a label)** to see how i react to a product. Dymatize for ex. went back the same day( both times i tried it) because of all the stomach issues

[FAN0FdaSport]

I never bought the pills, but know i am intolerant to a degree. My point was that i** have to actually use( not read a label)** to see how i react to a product. Dymatize for ex. went back the same day( both times i tried it) because of all the stomach issues

No protein sup will ever list how much lactase it uses. Dymatize just uses the most I assume (only because it works for me), so yeah everyone who's lactose intolerant has to experiment. Sucks balls.

[VaughnTrue]

No protein sup will ever list how much lactase it uses. Dymatize just uses the most I assume (only because it works for me), so yeah everyone who's lactose intolerant has to experiment. Sucks balls.

or buy dairy free protein powder such a isolate, egg, beef, hydro, etc

[Bankruptt]

or buy dairy free protein powder such a isolate, egg, beef, hydro, etc

I have ON Egg, it's decent. Only problem is that each scoop has 20% of your salt intake. Not worth the almost doubled price of a whey 2lb for the same amount.

[FAN0FdaSport]

or buy dairy free protein powder such a isolate, egg, beef, hydro, etc

I did consider this a long time ago. Not sure I remember which brand... the egg protein product I found was more expensive per scoop than just eating 2/3 normal eggs lol

isolates are the way to go tho

[x-trainer ben]

No protein sup will ever list how much lactase it uses. Dymatize just uses the most I assume (only because it works for me), so yeah everyone who's lactose intolerant has to experiment. Sucks balls.

" lactose intolerant has to experiment"

this right there ^^^

[unccwrestler]

Mr. Olympia winner uses something other than supplements to get big.... MIND=BLOWN

[T3mpest]

Dymatize is the best protein ive ever tried as far as lactose sensitivity goes. The protein ive used mainly for shakes for a long time.

Which one, I'm guessing the ISO-100?

[PhilAUS]

Completely unlreated

In my band, the Two guitar players are myself and a dude called Kai

I've always been better than Kai, but lately he's coming out of nowhere with these crazy technical rifs, that give me some trouble - The gap is closing...

Weird

[RoroCwalker]

Completely unlreated

In my band, the Two guitar players are myself and a dude called Kai

I've always been better than Kai, but lately he's coming out of nowhere with these crazy technical rifs, that give me some trouble - The gap is closing...

Weird

For it to be a reference, he must have been better than you for 2 years, yes?

[FAN0FdaSport]

Which one, I'm guessing the ISO-100?

that would be fine, Ive usually gone with elite whey the past few years

[roid gut]

testcle

[PhilAUS]

For it to be a reference, he must have been better than you for 2 years, yes?

i think i was always better

He actually brought it up, as we both lift. We joke sometimes, and we've even spent entire jam sessions pretending to be over dramatic versions of Heath and Greene.

He'll talk about a partern he has though of and ramble on until he is talking about life and the universe, then ill cut in, tell him that im the best, im the champion and pretend to do a mic slam.

[Big Slim DaDDy]

For it to be a reference, he must have been better than you for 2 years, yes?

He definitely wasn't better than him in 2011 and 2012 could be considered a toss up.

[RoroCwalker]

He definitely wasn't better than him in 2011 and 2012 could be considered a toss up.

Which is why I said 2 years, meaning 2012 and 2013.

[PillClinton]

Which is why I said 2 years, meaning 2012 and 2013.

hahah let it go roro.... let it go

[T3mpest]

that would be fine, Ive usually gone with elite whey the past few years

I knew ISO-100 would be fine, I was hoping it was a cheaper one lol. That's why I asked for clarification as dymatize has several good bargain proteins, ISO-100 isnt' one of them, I'll give the elite whey a try. I'm lactose intolerant, I get pretty bloated after I mess with dairy, nothing terrible, but for daily supplementation most whey products wear me down. Haven't tried dymatize though