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    Originally Posted by DKPhenomenom View Post
    Going to give up an average of 150 points a night.

    Only player in the starting line up who plays any kind of defense is Varejao.



    Lol. Cavs fans quickly taking the Heat's place as having the most retarded fans.

    Lol @ using pts allowed in arguing their defense and trying to compare them to the Spurs. But who was pace?

    The Cavs were ranked 19th in defense, the Spurs were ranked 3rd.

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    I always love the "but what was defense?" everytime Love comes up.

    Love is actually not bad in team defense. 1 V 1 in Iso, he's terrible but in team defense he does OK and lets not forget rebounding is defense as well.

    How many players on the Spurs are actually good individual defenders?

    Plus, when you have Verejoa and Lebron opposed to Pekovic and Brewer it makes a lot of difference.
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    All these Cavs fans coming out from the darkness might be more delusional than Heat/Lakers fans.
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    Originally Posted by 4567081110 View Post
    All these Cavs fans coming out from the darkness might be more delusional than Heat/Lakers fans.
    IDK if they are delusional. If they think they could win a couple of championships with Love+LeBron+Kyrie they very well might. Probably not this year, but they will be either the favorite or close to it in the East. Bulls should be good as well.
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    Originally Posted by MCrow View Post
    IDK if they are delusional. If they think they could win a couple of championships with Love+LeBron+Kyrie they very well might. Probably not this year, but they will be either the favorite or close to it in the East. Bulls should be good as well.
    Cavs fans here, can you list the pros and cons of Kevin Love and what can he bring to Cleveland?
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    Originally Posted by MCrow View Post
    I always love the "but what was defense?" everytime Love comes up.

    Love is actually not bad in team defense. 1 V 1 in Iso, he's terrible but in team defense he does OK and lets not forget rebounding is defense as well.

    How many players on the Spurs are actually good individual defenders?

    Plus, when you have Verejoa and Lebron opposed to Pekovic and Brewer it makes a lot of difference.
    I think Love may be a bit more motivated to play Defense being on the Cavs with LeBron instead of the Wolves where he was just playing for himself and not the playoffs, could just be wishful thinking. People acting like Wiggins had them as the best Defense in the league and now trading him for Love made the Cavs the worst.
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    Originally Posted by krs128 View Post
    I think Love may be a bit more motivated to play Defense being on the Cavs with LeBron instead of the Wolves where he was just playing for himself and not the playoffs, could just be wishful thinking. People acting like Wiggins had them as the best Defense in the league and now trading him for Love made the Cavs the worst.
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    Originally Posted by LikeAMachine View Post
    Lebron trade Bosh and Wade, for Irving and Love.....Exec of the year?




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    Originally Posted by Seton4 View Post
    Cavs fans here, can you list the pros and cons of Kevin Love and what can he bring to Cleveland?
    Pros:
    #1-Great shoot for his position.
    #2-Great rebounder.
    #3- Big time hustling type, plays hard.
    #4- Will force opposing PFs to follow him out of the lane, opening it up for LeBron or Kyrie.
    #5- If penetration from Kyrie or LeBron is stopped, they dish it out to Love.
    #6- Under rated passer, very good overall but has excellent transition passes (from one end of the court to the other)
    #7- tough, willing to play hurt and doesn't mind mixing it up.
    #8- Very smart player
    #9- Always around the basket, gets a lot of tip ins.
    #10- Still only 25, so he has several prime years left.

    Cons-
    #1- Not very good in isolation defense.
    #2- Sometimes can be a real complaining beotch if things aren't going right.
    #3- While not as bad as some make it sound, he's not a great post up player, but he has been progressing.
    #4- Not a great athlete but much better than he was when he came into the league.
    #5- Not fast enough to be good in transition.
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    Originally Posted by krs128 View Post
    I think Love may be a bit more motivated to play Defense being on the Cavs with LeBron instead of the Wolves where he was just playing for himself and not the playoffs, could just be wishful thinking. People acting like Wiggins had them as the best Defense in the league and now trading him for Love made the Cavs the worst.
    I think his defense suffered because he was just so fed up with the Wolves that he stopped caring toward the end. He's never going to be a great defender, he's not athletic enough or long enough but he can be passable. I think LeBron will make sure he is at least giving it his best effort.
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    Originally Posted by turk75 View Post
    If you don't think the Cavs defense will be significantly better this year then I have some bad news for you.
    Based on what?

    Am I missing something or did they add a great defender that I'm unaware of?
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    Originally Posted by DKPhenomenom View Post
    Based on what?

    Am I missing something or did they add a great defender that I'm unaware of?
    Lebron?
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    Originally Posted by Seton4 View Post
    Cavs fans here, can you list the pros and cons of Kevin Love and what can he bring to Cleveland?
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    Originally Posted by roc430 View Post
    i bet kevin love's game will decrease just as chris bosh's did
    That's a given.
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    Originally Posted by LikeAMachine View Post
    Lebron?
    Lmao.

    The same guy who got torched by a 13 ppg scorer?

    Dude is the most overrated defender in the league, he's constantly getting blown by and missing defensive assignments. KD has better defensive stats.
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    So what is Lebron's (and Cavaliers) excuse if he doesn't win a title this year?

    Yeah the franchise is chitty, but they're the only team in the NBA with 3 legitimate all-stars in their prime, and a solid supporting cast.
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    Originally Posted by FGCHENG View Post
    So what is Lebron's (and Cavaliers) excuse if he doesn't win a title this year?

    Yeah the franchise is chitty, but they're the only team in the NBA with 3 legitimate all-stars in their prime, and a solid supporting cast.
    I think that Kyrie could sink their chances if he can't be a better ball distributor and less of s scorer.
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    Originally Posted by FGCHENG View Post
    So what is Lebron's (and Cavaliers) excuse if he doesn't win a title this year?

    Yeah the franchise is chitty, but they're the only team in the NBA with 3 legitimate all-stars in their prime, and a solid supporting cast.
    A young new team put together with a new coach. Also a team without 3 all stars in their prime.
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    Originally Posted by FGCHENG View Post
    So what is Lebron's (and Cavaliers) excuse if he doesn't win a title this year?

    Yeah the franchise is chitty, but they're the only team in the NBA with 3 legitimate all-stars in their prime, and a solid supporting cast.
    apparently, according to Sports Misc

    - they should just aim to make the playoffs
    - they'd be lucky to make the ECF
    - Bulls are much better
    - would get decimated by the West team in the Finals

    brb Vegas has them at 3-1 odds to win it all
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    Originally Posted by HarpoonBrah View Post
    We gonna act like everyone's defense won't improve big time

    who would play defense on a cit team that isn't going to accomplish anything? Everyone will step up cause now there a championship caliber team and they will be at least ok on defense.
    Originally Posted by MCrow View Post

    Plus, when you have Verejoa and Lebron opposed to Pekovic and Brewer it makes a lot of difference.
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    Lebron?
    Heats defense was better last year when Lebron was on the bench, and their only "rim protector"in varejao is injury prone.
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    Originally Posted by HarpoonBrah View Post
    apparently, according to Sports Misc

    - they should just aim to make the playoffs
    - they'd be lucky to make the ECF
    - Bulls are much better
    - would get decimated by the West team in the Finals

    brb Vegas has them at 3-1 odds to win it all
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    Cavs are gonna be good no doubt....BUT i think the bulls will be just as good(if rose is healthy). Love is really good on offense but fukin awful on D
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    Lol @ this guy citing Vegas odds as some measure of how good the Cavs are. People are riding the hype train and will place their bets while the odds are the most advantageous for the bookies. You really think they're better than the Spurs? Be honest with yourself.
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    Cavs gave up both Wiggins & Bennett?

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    Originally Posted by kessel81 View Post
    Cavs gave up both Wiggins & Bennett?

    Lmao I was like Lmao
    It's a good move for them. Before those two can contribute (if they ever would) to a championship team LeBron would probably start declining. Plus they get Love who just entered his prime and has several prime years left. So for one POTENTIAL star, one player who looks like a bust at this point, and a future protected pick they get the best PF in the game at the beginning of his prime years. Might end up that the Wolves end up with two busts and a crap draft pick and the Cavs get two championships.
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    Wow so now you have a ball hogging point guard that plays like a sg dude sucks at being a distributor and a no defense volume shooter...although i'll admit i love watching love play offense but lets be real love needs the ball in his hands to be effective and we all know theres only one person thats gonna demand the ball everytime its gonna suck watching loves talent fizzle out
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    Originally Posted by METALxGEAR View Post
    Wow so now you have a ball hogging point guard that plays like a sg dude sucks at being a distributor and a no defense volume shooter...although i'll admit i love watching love play offense but lets be real love needs the ball in his hands to be effective and we all know theres only one person thats gonna demand the ball everytime its gonna suck watching loves talent fizzle out
    Love needs the ball in his hands ur so right bro probably gonna split pg duties with varejao
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    this trade from an oriental POV... lmfao

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    Originally Posted by RogerSterling View Post
    Love needs the ball in his hands ur so right bro probably gonna split pg duties with varejao
    I lol'd. Seriously? What other stupid chit are people going to say about Love?
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