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08-04-2014, 02:07 AM #91
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08-04-2014, 02:11 AM #92
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08-04-2014, 02:30 AM #93
It's literally been years since I played, I never practiced and was just naturally so good. Wish my parents had the foresight to see how good I was. I had to quit because of financial reasons and opting out to take more classes in HS. Also because I would need a custom (read:expensive) one due to sizing issues.
I remember I met and played for (with the entire orchestra) Soon Hee Newbold and she said we played it perfectly. Not a difficult song by any means, but I still have it memorized, could play it right now if I actually had something to play with:
Once you play an instrument, especially classical, you develop a finer understanding of soundtracks in movies. I can still pick up on cool things composers do in big blockbuster movie soundtracks and it makes it all the more enjoyable.
Wish I could go back and play 9:00 to 10:50 with highschool orchestra
I skimmed the electronic vs acoustic argument above, and all I am going to say is that for the longest time I considered getting a synth, would be beyond fun (I wanted a korg radias/kronos with a kaoss pad):
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08-04-2014, 02:33 AM #94
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08-04-2014, 02:36 AM #95
It's funny how you contradict yourself so quickly I couldn't ignore it. It's funnier that you don't see the similarities of the video to your hypothetical scenario. Do you not understand the amount of work that is done outside of simply playing the guitar in that video? I don't think you understand that a very talented sound engineer had to very cleverly mic up the guy to make his guitar sound like that and then on top of that spend a lot of time mastering the track. Also, what about the film side of that video? Someone had to hire a makeup artist, get the backdrop right, set up the lighting properly and take all the right camera shots. On top of that someone had to sit in the studio on his computer aligning the video with the audio and master the whole project to pull of this production.
Take away all of that, watch and listen to this guy on the street and I guarantee you wouldn't be nearly as impressed. Not saying the guy is a bad guitarist, just pointing out your illogical hypocrisy. All good music comes from innovation and teamwork, a guy that simply knows how to play a guitar is no better than the guy that simply knows how to process the sound.
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08-04-2014, 02:38 AM #96
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08-04-2014, 02:48 AM #97
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08-04-2014, 03:06 AM #99
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08-04-2014, 03:09 AM #100
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08-04-2014, 05:23 AM #101
Fuk it, too lazy to get all my gear into one pic so I'll just post stock pics:
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08-04-2014, 05:30 AM #102
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08-04-2014, 05:30 AM #103
This is a terrible comparison brah. Fukking awful in fact. You over analyzed the chit out of it. Yes, it took a team to produce that video, but the guy still had to play the guitar. You're saying this as though he isn't able to play it if the team isn't there to record it. If you saw this guy in the street playing it, it would still be the same music.
Pronger didn't say "Check out this awesomely produced video of this guitar player. Look at the quality of the video and the production values overall. It's really amazing chit brahs." No, he said there's much more to the guitar than a few chords and then he posted an example of someone playing a damn guitar.
Also in this day in age, just about any serious musician has to also learn how to record and produce their own music, along with writing it and playing your own instruments. There is probably an extremely small percentage of starving musicians that don't know how to do this, because you aren't gonna make it brah if you can't.Signature keeps disappearing crew
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08-04-2014, 05:36 AM #104
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08-04-2014, 05:45 AM #105
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08-04-2014, 07:29 AM #106
I think you are significantly under estimating the difference professional recording makes. I don't deny that it will be the same music, it will definitely be the same music but it will not sound anywhere near as good. Coupled with that, it wouldn't be as entertaining to watch either as it's quite repetitive.
What pronger is saying is that guitarists should be respected more than someone that doesn't play a "real instrument" (ie MIDI controller) on the fallacy that guitarists "create their own sounds". He supported his argument with a video showing the exact opposite.
Any serious musician I know focuses on their specialised instrument of choice and doesn't waste time trying to be a one man band. Sound engineers have jobs for a reason, if all musicians knew how to properly record and master their tracks then there would be a lot more local good quality music around.
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08-04-2014, 07:50 AM #107
Holy chit you are completely missing the point bropeth. You may as well go back and say someone had to cut down the tree used to create the guitar being played. A company had to create those mics because the sound engineer sure as fuk didn't.
Also I never said they would have to know how to record/master to a degree of professionalism, but just get it done to a decent quality. But while we're on that topic a ton of the artists I listen to know how to properly record and master their own music on a professional level. In this day in age with all the tools available to just about everyone, it is becoming less of a specialized skill.Signature keeps disappearing crew
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08-04-2014, 07:51 AM #108
I cant post pics yet but when I can I'll throw one up. I have a 2009 fender american standard J-Bass, 3 color sunburst with turtle shell pickguard and maple neck (4 string). 2008 Schecter Stilleto Elite-5 (5string). To power it all I have an Ampeg SVT classic 300 with an 8x10 cabinet. My friends nicknamed it the wall of doom. I cant turn it up past about 4 or 5 for fear of bringing down all the stuff in my house.
Ive never played a banjo but Ive always wanted to get one and try, I love them. (No Deliverance)
Mirin all the Taylor, Breedlove, and Martin acoustic brahs. Dat craftsmanship..
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08-04-2014, 07:53 AM #109
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08-04-2014, 08:02 AM #110
The point is that guitarists are no better than a sound engineer that plays a MIDI controller. The only thing relevant here is the entertainment value, the 2 factors being audio and visual (video in the example). Both the guitarist and sound engineer are responsible for the audio and the video by the video director. The point is that guitarists aren't amazing by themselves, nor are sound engineers (or video directors etc).
How are you not understanding this?
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08-04-2014, 08:08 AM #111
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08-04-2014, 08:08 AM #112
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08-04-2014, 08:09 AM #113
No, I fukking get what you're trying to say. My point is that was just one god damn example out of hundreds of thousands of possible examples. If he posted a guy playing a guitar that was self produced, self shot, and self edited, would you still be making these posts? This is not a discussion on sound fidelity or production values, but you sort of turned it into one. Get it? I've heard plenty of old chitty recordings on old tapes done by guitarists and they still blow me away. Sometimes I enjoy chitty sounding self produced demos (relatively speaking) to the final studio version.
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08-04-2014, 08:28 AM #114
"Skill: the ability to do something well; expertise."
"Creativity: the use of imagination or original ideas to create something; inventiveness."
I am claiming both take the same amount of skill, correct. Both musicians and sound engineers are paid a lot money to be experts in their field. In general, musicians are not the sole creator of their music, in many cases sound engineers also compose songs and in many cases don't. In the case of a band, a lot of the time it is just a couple of band members that write all the songs and songs are often bought from other song writers/composers. It is generally accepted that the most creative part of music is the composing and writing of the song. A musician will play as written and a sound engineer will record and master as appropriate. There is definitely a creative aspect for both, neither one significantly more than the other. Although, I would probably argue that sound engineers require more creativity and innovation.
It would be obvious that both are knowledgeable and experienced musically.
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08-04-2014, 08:31 AM #115
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08-04-2014, 08:33 AM #116
I don't understand your argument. If he had posted that then it would not be relevant, my argument is based on the majority. The video posted was relevant because it was a good example of a talented guitarist with commercial level entertainment value.
Likewise I have heard plenty of ****ty written songs with great mastering and recording and they blow me away too.
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08-04-2014, 08:35 AM #117
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