Swedish IFBB pro Martin Kjällström goes to jail!

[ToniRadanov]

Link to the swedish newspaper reporting this as of 10 minutes ago in case you happen to understand swedish (lolol) http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article19292503.ab

Aaaanyway cliffs:

Giant police effort began in 2009 to catch the major importers and suppliers in Sweden which of mr. Kjällström was highly involved hence the sentence to 2 years and 9 months in jail.

He fled the country last year, competed in Arnold Classic Brazil as we all know but the Brazilian police has no deal with the Swedish cops when it comes to delivering refuge crims so he was safe until he went to England in June where he was arrested and as of 24th of July, shipped over to Sweden for zi jailtime.

Good night sweet prince (and gains of glorious orangejuice) ^^

That'll be that, no more oversized Brach-warren-Physique to harass the bodybuilding stages of the world any longer! Woop Woop!

[Matt C]

Sweden is a bit of a stickler on PEDs for some reason. It's a shame. I met Martin and he was a respectful guy to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNpROZiKdE0



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1AhTuffiHo

[Larfleeze]

Close to 3 years for f*cking celltech?!

Sweden and its sad little vendetta against bodybuilders strikes again.

[adamsz]

Kinda fuked up to be celebrating that OP

[greenmile66]

That sux, I've met Martin irl and he's one of the nicest guys you'll meet in the industry.

[203mh]

You sound excited. He do something to you?

[RoroCwalker]

Sad.

[BartPimpson]

A real shame.

He's 42 and he'll go away for three years. Hard to imagine that he can come back from this.

[SPARTANUP]

Hypocritical world, I bet there are thousands of Virile geriatric sweeds that are on trt.

World should legalize steroids and open up shop like weed stores in Belingam. true story bro. I would love that.

[ToniRadanov]

Actually the only thing I hold against him is that well... his physique is quite in shambles and he is a bodybuilder after all so that's what I judge him by.


Oh and also: He's not going to jail for taking stuff, he's going to jail for being one of the guys in charge of a hyyyuuooge cartel bust which imported and sold on tens of thousands of UI's. We don't really like those sorta things in Sweden i'm afraid. Taking is a minor offense, really. But dealing, whole other deal! Especially this type of large scale business. He's just a druglord with plenty o' oil all over the place and a much overdue physique

Plenty of people take whatever around here just like any other part of the world. It's just more looked down upon socially than in other countries. I compete in a tested fed and my only concern is what goes on with other athletes in the fed. Average joes and aspiring bodybuilders and whatnot can do what they please. They don't compete and if they do it's bodybuilding... sort of the backbone of the whole sport is dem vitamins

[RoroCwalker]

Hypocritical world, I bet there are thousands of Virile geriatric sweeds that are on trt.

World should legalize steroids and open up shop like weed stores in Belingam. true story bro. I would love that.

Legalizing steroids is a very interesting subject, there's so many ups and downs.

I believe that the biggest impact would be that supplement companies would probably suffer, which would cut the funds for competitors.

[Larfleeze]

Legalizing steroids is a very interesting subject, there's so many ups and downs.

I believe that the biggest impact would be that supplement companies would probably suffer, which would cut the funds for competitors.

They'd just come out with supps to go along with cycles and convince the brainless masses that juice is worthless without them.

[RoroCwalker]

They'd just come out with supps to go along with cycles and convince the brainless masses that juice is worthless without them.

Hahaha, I wonder how that would turn out, it would be awkward.

[BartPimpson]

Legalizing steroids is a very interesting subject, there's so many ups and downs.

I believe that the biggest impact would be that supplement companies would probably suffer, which would cut the funds for competitors.

Economics is a tricky subject.

My theory: if this stuff was totally legal, there would be a lot more freakish physiques walking around, which means the average person would be less grossed out by it, which means they'd be more likely to take an interest in pro bodybuilding as a sport, which means more people at the Olympia and Arnold, more people buying stuff, etc.

[RoroCwalker]

Economics is a tricky subject.

My theory: if this stuff was totally legal, there would be a lot more freakish physiques walking around, which means the average person would be less grossed out by it, which means they'd be more likely to take an interest in pro bodybuilding as a sport, which means more people at the Olympia and Arnold, more people buying stuff, etc.

Hmm, so many ways to see it.

I'm not knowledgeable about the substances but I'd suppose, considering the prudence around it, it would be unsafe to simply sell them without some kind of certification or permit, just in case people start taking them like candies and ,possibly, severely injure themselves.

[Larfleeze]

Hmm, so many ways to see it.

I'm not knowledgeable about the substances but I'd suppose, considering the prudence around it, it would be unsafe to simply sell them without some kind of certification or permit, just in case people start taking them like candies and ,possibly, severely injure themselves.

lol they're a hell of a lot safer than alcohol and there's no prerequisites for buying that other than age, legal tech would be no different

[RoroCwalker]

lol they're a hell of a lot safer than alcohol and there's no prerequisites for buying that other than age, legal tech would be no different

I find that manipulating your hormones is much more severe than whatever alcohol does.

[Larfleeze]

I find that manipulating your hormones is much more severe than whatever alcohol does.

People die from alcohol poisoning all the time, can't say I've ever heard of anyone dying from a test overdose (and if we're talking long term, I'll take messed up hormones over cirrhosis any day)

[cedricnumerouno]

Harming no one = doing nothing wrong.
Moronic to ban drugs, might as well ban trans fats, ban alcohol, ban cigarettes, ban crossfit(semi srs), ban seated desks, put those over 15% BF in jail, ban soda and ban bad form.
Where do you draw the line?
It is our own choice as to what we do with our bodies.

[RoroCwalker]

People die from alcohol poisoning all the time, can't say I've ever heard of anyone dying from a test overdose (and if we're talking long term, I'll take messed up hormones over cirrhosis any day)

You might be right, I have no valuable knowledge on the subject to defend my point, I'm really just speculating.

Hormone manipulation seems more dangerous due to the risk of infection, the risk of messing up your hormones, which could lead up to worse things later on, etc. I've never heard someone dying from alcohol.

yeah with those drugs. (said it before but) I feel once you start, you pretty much can't stop until you stop bodybuilding in which case you'll shrink down big time. So I think getting drunk a few times a month is a lot less damaging than having to take multiple steroids for 2 decades straight and living from 40s to the end of your life with most likely multiple health problems.. I guess the best thing to do is the levrone formula.. start using in mid 20s, go like 6 months of full blown and do your competitions there.. then you'll have 1-2 months of looking decent (no drugs)... then 4 months of looking like crap and not using anything, recovering your body, and staying indoors/ being a hermit/ not looking in mirrors to retain your ego. I wish I knew if doing like multiple months off per year of drugs would significantly reduce the long term side effects of drug use or if levrone was just a genetic god who would still look like how he does today had he never went off for months at a time

Agreed that in the long run, steroids are probably more harming.

[ResovoirDog]

You might be right, I have no valuable knowledge on the subject to defend my point, I'm really just speculating.

Hormone manipulation seems more dangerous due to the risk of infection, the risk of messing up your hormones, which could lead up to worse things later on, etc. I've never heard someone dying from alcohol.



Agreed that in the long run, steroids are probably more harming.

Should have stopped typing after the word speculating

[RoroCwalker]

Should have stopped typing after the word speculating

Why?

I'm not talking about quantity, I'm talking about the different levels of risks involved, I didn't specify or compare extremes (drug abusers/alcoholics).

[ResovoirDog]

Why?

I'm not talking about quantity, I'm talking about the different levels of risks involved, I didn't specify or compare extremes (drug abusers/alcoholics).

Because I genuinely don't think you have any idea what you're talking about mate.
Alcohol related deaths are VERY common

[RoroCwalker]

Because I genuinely don't think you have any idea what you're talking about mate.
Alcohol related deaths are VERY common

I never denied that, I said that I personally never heard of alcohol related deaths in particular.

I didn't state anything as a fact neither, and whether alcohol related deaths are more common or not, doesn't correlate with my point.

I'm saying that the measures and risks around the use of "substances" seems to be far greater than alcohol, which could explain why pros need coaches, or as I've seen them being called before, "chemists".

The whole process of thought and risks behind taking steroids are greater than recreational alcohol consumption, where drinking 'what' and 'how much' are the only concerns...compared to taking a variety of substances with a strict protocol and measuring to ensure the best results while preserving your health and safety, is on a whole other level of cautiousness.

[cedricnumerouno]

Because I genuinely don't think you have any idea what you're talking about mate.
Alcohol related deaths are VERY common

You don't know what you got yourself into, prepare for years of useless diagrams and paragraph upon paragraph of nonsense only to arrive at 'let's agree to disagree'.

[Rambo26]

That's a shame.

[Larfleeze]

I never denied that, I said that I personally never heard of alcohol related deaths in particular.

I didn't state anything as a fact neither, and whether alcohol related deaths are more common or not, doesn't correlate with my point.

I'm saying that the measures and risks around the use of "substances" seems to be far greater than alcohol, which could explain why pros need coaches, or as I've seen them being called before, "chemists".

The whole process of thought and risks behind taking steroids are greater than recreational alcohol consumption, where drinking 'what' and 'how much' are the only concerns...compared to taking a variety of substances with a strict protocol and measuring to ensure the best results while preserving your health and safety, is on a whole other level of cautiousness.

You could easily go out right now and buy a litre bottle of vodka, which if you drank it all in one sitting could quite easily kill you. They can both fuk you up short and long term, but alcohol also has the addiction/dependence potential to worry about too.

[RoroCwalker]

You could easily go out right now and buy a litre bottle of vodka, which if you drank it all in one sitting could quite easily kill you. They can both fuk you up short and long term, but alcohol also has the addiction/dependence potential to worry about too.

Indeed but one has a greater needs for planning and cautiousness (hence why the need of coaches is sometimes required).

My point is that; I believe that the legalization of steroids should have a very strict distribution (permit/license/etc.) because of how complex it is, compared to alcohol consumption for instance.

[NZninja101]

Sweden is a joke in many regards.

[porrapaulao]

I've never heard of anyone that died from alcohol poisoning. Most of the alcool related deaths are car accidents and cirrhosis (but thats from a lifetime of drinking)

But of course I'm going to see more alcohol related problems than steroid related. Simple fact, 95% (maybe more) of people my age drinks alcohol, less than 1% use steroids.


I don't think at all that alcohol is more dangerous than steroids. If you want to safely use them, you better plan your cycle, prevent the side efects and also do a good PCT. If you want to safely drink, just dont drink a bottle of vodka in one sitting and of couse, don't drive after you drink