Intra Carbs Study... Did Not Impact Blood Lipids Profile

[kissdadookie]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23442284/

Interesting read and puts some tangible validation to peri-workout carbs intake. According to the study, there was also a performance increase 2x over placebo. Blood lipids profile also did not seem to be affected to any significant degree versus placebo which would suggest that it may not impede fat burning.

[AlecGaspari]

intra workout carbssssss <3

[powercage]

Why would someone assume that intraworkout carbs would affect blood lipids?

[kissdadookie]

Why would someone assume that intraworkout carbs would affect blood lipids?

It's more that's many people have a fear if peri workout carbs inhibiting fat loss.

There's the notion of having carbs in the system will halt fat burning, this study suggests that this may not be the case.

[Nyrin]

Why would someone assume that intraworkout carbs would affect blood lipids?

Conventional wisdom is that carbs = insulin = blunted lipolysis, which means no fat being freed to burn as energy. Exercise itself greatly blunts insulin response though, from what I understand, which may mean that carbs very close to (or during) your workout don't have much of an effect on lipolysis.

[nugget5]

Why would someone assume that intraworkout carbs would affect blood lipids?

Came in to ask this.

[naturalguy]

I've been doing intra workout carbs (w/protein & aminos) for a while now and it definitely helps with performance in the gym

[RVAPump]

I eat all the carbs all the time

[kissdadookie]

I've been doing intra workout carbs (w/protein & aminos) for a while now and it definitely helps with performance in the gym

Same. Has a tangible impact on recovery as well for obvious reasons.

[BULLED]

Why would someone assume that intraworkout carbs would affect blood lipids?

Not everyone is Ph.D. like you, Dr. Awesome.

[RVAPump]

Not everyone is Ph.D. like you, Dr. Awesome.

[snorkelman]

I couldn't see the full text, so maybe let me know how long the whopping six subjects went with no food or drink before the testing?

[kissdadookie]

I couldn't see the full text, so maybe let me know how long the whopping six subjects went with no food or drink before the testing?

Overnight fast. Which I think is pertinent to recent trends of fasted training.

Unless one is going the keto route, I honestly don't know why one would do fasted training or cut out peri workout nutrition.

[naturalguy]

Overnight fast. Which I think is pertinent to recent trends of fasted training.

Unless one is going the keto route, I honestly don't know why one would do fasted training or cut out peri workout nutrition.

All the cool kids are doing IF these days so it's relevant

[powercage]

All the cool kids are doing IF these days so it's relevant

ugh

[kissdadookie]

All the cool kids are doing IF these days so it's relevant

Yeah.

[nugget5]

Overnight fast. Which I think is pertinent to recent trends of fasted training.

Unless one is going the keto route, I honestly don't know why one would do fasted training or cut out peri workout nutrition.

Well when I wake up I drink my pre on the way to the gym, no time/want to have a full stomach.

All of my PR's are in a fasted state as well.

All the cool kids are doing IF these days so it's relevant

More so convenient.

[RVAPump]

Well when I wake up I drink my pre on the way to the gym, no time/want to have a full stomach.

All of my PR's are in a fasted state as well.



More so convenient.

that's interesting, because when I wake up I drink my pre on the way to the gym, no time/want to have a full stomach.

All of my PR's are in a fasted state as well.

[kissdadookie]

Well when I wake up I drink my pre on the way to the gym, no time/want to have a full stomach.

All of my PR's are in a fasted state as well.

Training fasted doesn't mean you're completely ineffective in the gym obviously. It's more of sub-optimal vs optimal. So if you can get proper nutrition in, you probably should, if you just can't, it's not a total disaster.

Btw, the study used dextrin I believe. So it's not even some fancy carbs product. 2x's performance increase including power output.

[naturalguy]

Btw, the study used dextrin I believe. So it's not even some fancy carbs product. 2x's performance increase including power output.

You don't need any fancy carbs the important thing is you would want carbs that are easy on the stomach, the last thing you want is GI distress

[kissdadookie]

You don't need any fancy carbs the important thing is you would want carbs that are easy on the stomach, the last thing you want is GI distress

Agreed. I was just pointing out that the study used dextrin to make the point that like you said, don't need fancy carbs.

[DGarcia519]

Overnight fast. Which I think is pertinent to recent trends of fasted training.

Unless one is going the keto route, I honestly don't know why one would do fasted training or cut out peri workout nutrition.

Time. I personally don't have the time before I train to seperate a meal and my PWO enough that the meal won't slow down the effects of the PWO. That's why I add additional BCAA's- been working so far. I guess I could get up earlier...but that sh!t ain't happening!

Also, I just want to be popular.

[kissdadookie]

Time. I personally don't have the time before I train to seperate a meal and my PWO enough that the meal won't slow down the effects of the PWO. That's why I add additional BCAA's- been working so far. I guess I could get up early...but that sh!t ain't happening!

Also, I just want to be popular.

If you have time to mix your BCAA and preworkout powders, you don't have time to toss some carb powders into the pre and BCAAs? Serious?

Hello, anybody home? :P

[DGarcia519]

If you have time to mix your BCAA and preworkout powders, you don't have time to toss some carb powders into the pre and BCAAs? Serious?

Hello, anybody home? :P

I never said that. I just haven't bothered with powdered cards in a long time. I have taken them in the past, and felt it was a huge benefit. I do plan to get back to it though; the BCAA's are working, but I'm finding some days I still hit a wall where my performance starts to drop.

[BogusForLife]

Best price per serving carbohydrate powder?

[kissdadookie]

Best price per serving carbohydrate powder?

Bulk dextrin?

[powercage]

Best price per serving carbohydrate powder?

I just use bulk dextrose

[kissdadookie]

I just use bulk dextrose

^ That

[BogusForLife]

Bulk dextrin?

I just use bulk dextrose

Are either of these Hiroko-approved? I was going to participate in one of his studies but he's currently co-authoring a paper on Clear Muscle with MarcelinoChiles so that got put on the back burner.

[powercage]

he's currently co-authoring a paper on Clear Muscle with MarcelinoChiles

lol