Official Israel/Palestine discussion thread

[squanto]

If BDS wasn't successful, the Israel lobby would not be trying to counter them.

[Krypt0nite]

If BDS wasn't successful, the Israel lobby would not be trying to counter them.

bds is a joke and has no substantial achievements, not to say none at all. I can pull for you many financial stats but it will be enough to simply point out that Israel's GDP has grown exponentially since the Muzlims launched this laughable campaign.

[primetime32]

If BDS wasn't successful, the Israel lobby would not be trying to counter them.

Like I have said before, Israelis are not dumb people. They aren't going to just sit back and let the BDS thugs do what they want. Of course, they will try and counter it. That is just smart politics. You expected Israel to wait until it started to effect the economy? You think Israel is run by the same dimwits that run countries like Lebanon/Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan countries that allow terrorists to run amok within their own borders?
There is a reason why Israel is so successful in a region that is imploding.

[EGamComp]

More: Ireland's largest multinational corporation, CRH, just divested its 25% stake in the Israeli cement market

Lol'ed at Ireland. Poverty irrelevant country.


And pretty sure they got their @sses kicked by Ulster

[AA43560]

The butthurt is real

[Tha big kahoona]

The butthurt is real

Lol for real. The slightest mention of BDS and all the ziokunts get all fired up like there's no tomorrow

[squanto]

bds is a joke and has no substantial achievements, not to say none at all. I can pull for you many financial stats but it will be enough to simply point out that Israel's GDP has grown exponentially since the Muzlims launched this laughable campaign.

Your GDP statement is meaningless if you really think about it. That's like saying boycotts of Africa's apartheid were not successful because of their GDP. If they didn't have any substantial achievements, then fine, why is so much work being put into dealing with them?

[squanto]

Like I have said before, Israelis are not dumb people. They aren't going to just sit back and let the BDS thugs do what they want. Of course, they will try and counter it. That is just smart politics. You expected Israel to wait until it started to effect the economy? You think Israel is run by the same dimwits that run countries like Lebanon/Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan countries that allow terrorists to run amok within their own borders?
There is a reason why Israel is so successful in a region that is imploding.

Well first off, let's think about calling people thugs here for a second. A boycott is a peaceful political process, why are you calling them thugs? Does that really make sense?

With respect to their accomplishments, I think it would be difficult to argue that they don't have any. Here's a list from endtheoccupation. If you don't think it's having an effect on their economy, ok, let's say you're right for a second. Let's say they haven't done anything to harm Israel's interests, is it reasonable to assume that the threat does, in fact exist? Because otherwise the Israeli lobby is behaving very irrationally.

[AA43560]

Well first off, let's think about calling people thugs here for a second. A boycott is a peaceful political process, why are you calling them thugs? Does that really make sense?

With respect to their accomplishments, I think it would be difficult to argue that they don't have any. Here's a list from endtheoccupation. If you don't think it's having an effect on their economy, ok, let's say you're right for a second. Let's say they haven't done anything to harm Israel's interests, is it reasonable to assume that the threat does, in fact exist? Because otherwise the Israeli lobby is behaving very irrationally.

"thug" in the zionist vernacular, much like the word "terrorist" and "antisemite" literally means anyone who opposes israel. They literally hold no other meaning.


Case in point, even someone who attacks israeli soldiers in occupied palestine is called a "terrorist".

Pay no mind to them using meaningless terms like those and dont waste your thought trying to make sense of it

[TheNewbie]

Well first off, let's think about calling people thugs here for a second. A boycott is a peaceful political process, why are you calling them thugs? Does that really make sense?

The BDS is anything but peaceful, they are very violent. The BDS is one of the organizers of the free Gaza flotilla which resulted in many deaths and injuries, they hold violent demonstrations which often end up with injuries, they violently interrupt academic lectures with or about Israelis, and so on.

The BDS is a violent movement, I think that as the western world slowly progresses with realization of the true violent nature of Muslims it will eventually label BDS members as the criminals that they truly are and take legal actions against them. Though, it is still a couple of years away the rate things are going now.

[ZioBot]

The BDS is anything but peaceful, they are very violent. The BDS is one of the organizers of the free Gaza flotilla which resulted in many deaths and injuries, they hold violent demonstrations which often end up with injuries, they violently interrupt academic lectures with or about Israelis, and so on.

The BDS is a violent movement, I think that as the western world slowly progresses with realization of the true violent nature of Muslims it will eventually label BDS members as the criminals that they truly are and take legal actions against them. Though, it is still a couple of years away the rate things are going now.

there will be blood

legally speaking of course

[Tha big kahoona]

The BDS is anything but peaceful, they are very violent. The BDS is one of the organizers of the free Gaza flotilla which resulted in many deaths and injuries,

If by many deaths you mean the IDF massacring protesters, after which Bibi had to apologize to Turkey with his tail between his legs, then yes

[Tha big kahoona]

Israeli Author to Le Monde: 'We Live Under an Apartheid Regime

"We live under an apartheid regime," read the headline in Le Monde's interview with Israeli author Ronit Matalon. The article, which was published on Sunday, drew public attention, with more than 1,500 readers sharing it on ********

"As an intellectual, I ask myself questions," she continued. Calling the occupation a "terminally ill patient," Matalon wondered "how all of this did not happen sooner." She added, "I see that the fundamental characteristic of the Israeli society is denial. It is a prisoner of its own rhetoric on security and sacrifices."
Later in the interview, Matalon stated: "There is no other we to define it – we are living under an apartheid regime." She admitted that her biggest worry was her fear to express her opinions.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.696636

[primetime32]

Well first off, let's think about calling people thugs here for a second. A boycott is a peaceful political process, why are you calling them thugs? Does that really make sense?

With respect to their accomplishments, I think it would be difficult to argue that they don't have any. Here's a list from endtheoccupation. If you don't think it's having an effect on their economy, ok, let's say you're right for a second. Let's say they haven't done anything to harm Israel's interests, is it reasonable to assume that the threat does, in fact exist? Because otherwise the Israeli lobby is behaving very irrationally.

Of course the threat exists and I am sure they have impacted a business here and there, but it's not having enough of an impact to result in the political change the BDS movement is seeking. The only sanctions that would have any impact on Israel would come from America (just like with South Africa), but America is never going to impose sanctions on Israel, in fact, American aid to Israel keeps growing even under Obama whom everyone thinks hates Israel. Not to mention the various States that have signed anti-BDS legislation or are about to sign anti-BDS legislation.

[Krypt0nite]

If by many deaths you mean the IDF massacring protesters, after which Bibi had to apologize to Turkey with his tail between his legs, then yes

Muzlim logic 101: Terrorists = protesters

Israeli Author to Le Monde: 'We Live Under an Apartheid Regime

Never heard of that "Israeli Author" before and I obviously think she's a moron, yet, her being able to freely voice such radical nutcase opinion just shows how liberal and democratic Israel is.

Good find kajoona

[bcop]

If by many deaths you mean the IDF massacring protesters, after which Bibi had to apologize to Turkey with his tail between his legs, then yes

- They attacked the IDF sailors before the sailors attacked them (in their own defense), and there is surveillance video showing this.

- Bibi gave a half-hearted apology, and only due to US pressure. It is clear to all who read the apology that Bibi did not mean it.

[ZioBot]

This story is so fukt up. Tell me we can all agree on this sort of behaviour is revolting? Or do you anti Zios side with the Jew this time?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/far-lef...medium=twitter

[AA43560]

This story is so fukt up. Tell me we can all agree on this sort of behaviour is revolting? Or do you anti Zios side with the Jew this time?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/far-lef...medium=twitter

Proves that there are some good jews out there

[ZioBot]

Proves that there are some good jews out there

as repellant as your response is, you could be right on some level. This Jew could be the death of these NGOs and without them the Pals lose a huge chunk of their fake propaganda machine.

[Tha big kahoona]

This story is so fukt up. Tell me we can all agree on this sort of behaviour is revolting? Or do you anti Zios side with the Jew this time?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/far-lef...medium=twitter

Find and kill? That's terrible. I support the sentiment of taking a stand against the settlements and settlers in general, but this guy needs to be put behind bars for life. I'm personally not cool with that at all

[Tha big kahoona]

Muzlim logic 101: Terrorists = protesters

Jew logic: freedom flotilla = terrorists. Ok jeff

- They attacked the IDF sailors before the sailors attacked them (in their own defense), and there is surveillance video showing this.

- Bibi gave a half-hearted apology, and only due to US pressure. It is clear to all who read the apology that Bibi did not mean it.

The IDF, an organization that doesn't exactly have a good record with regards to avoiding civilian casualties, boarded the phucking flotilla.

lol @ you saying bib gave a half hearted apology as if that means anything. If that was true it would be even better as it proves how much of a lil bish he is.

[bcop]

The IDF, an organization that doesn't exactly have a good record with regards to avoiding civilian casualties, boarded the phucking flotilla.

lol @ you saying bib gave a half hearted apology as if that means anything. If that was true it would be even better as it proves how much of a lil bish he is.

Of course the boarded it. They were enforcing a blockade. Then they were attacked by the "civilians". However, these were naval commandos, and they know how to fight back, which is why there were so many deaths on the other side.

If not for that attack, the ship would have pulled in to Israel, and no one would have died.

The IDF is actually great at avoiding civilian casualties. If not for the Palestinian's prolific use of human shields, there would be almost no civilian casualties on the Palestinian's side.

Bibi said what he said to make the Americans happy, and all Israelis, Turks, and Americans who followed this realize that he didn't mean what he said.

[TheNewbie]

Israeli soldiers giving water and food to Palestinian kids.



This happens on a daily basis. Palestinians (parents) send their kids to Israeli soldiers, since they know they'll give the kids food, sweets, etc.
Same thing when a Palestinian needs a medical treatment, more often than not they'd much rather turn to Israeli soldiers than to Palestinian medics. This is the sort of thing which happens all the time but you will never hear about in the news.

[johnnycomehome]

that's the police brah

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in b4 "they probably poisoned it"

[Tha big kahoona]

Not sure what you're trying to say Newbie? A Palestinian's family donated his heart to an Israeli Jew. The Palestinian was killed by settlers.

[Tha big kahoona]

Of course the boarded it. They were enforcing a blockade. Then they were attacked by the "civilians". However, these were naval commandos, and they know how to fight back, which is why there were so many deaths on the other side.

If not for that attack, the ship would have pulled in to Israel, and no one would have died.

The IDF is actually great at avoiding civilian casualties. If not for the Palestinian's prolific use of human shields, there would be almost no civilian casualties on the Palestinian's side.

Bibi said what he said to make the Americans happy, and all Israelis, Turks, and Americans who followed this realize that he didn't mean what he said.

You left out the word "illegal" when referring to the blockade. Keep blaming human shields, and i'll keep reminding you how many times the UN caught Israel using human shields (hint: a lot)

inb4 the UN is biased

[EGamComp]

Israeli soldiers giving water and food to Palestinian kids.

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This happens on a daily basis. Palestinians (parents) send their kids to Israeli soldiers, since they know they'll give the kids food, sweets, etc.
Same thing when a Palestinian needs a medical treatment, more often than not they'd much rather turn to Israeli soldiers than to Palestinian medics. This is the sort of thing which happens all the time but you will never hear about in the news.

Smh. Your tax dollars at work.

You aware on the salary of Israeli soldiers? You aware that they gotta pay for new military gear out of their pocket, which means they actually pay more than they get as salary?

Taxes are sky high, there's Israelis living in poverty, and they give military funding to muzzie scum? Smh

[TheAmericano]

Can I leave this here....or should I just GTFOH?

- Israel Wants to exist as a Jewish state
- Muslims and Arabs don’t accept Israel as a Jewish state
- May 15, 1948 Jordan, Libyan , Syria, Iraq, Egypt attack Israel
- Israel survived the attack
- 1967- Nasser ( Egypt) attacked Israel again with other Arab countries
- Israel attack Egypt and Syria, but not Jordan and asked Jordan King not to join the war, but he did.
- Then Israel took control of the Sinai peninsula West bank of the Jordan river
- Arab states went Sudan (after war) and announced their famous 3 no’s
--No Recognition
--No Peace
--No Negotiations
- 1978- Israel gave back Sinai peninsula back to Egypt for the promise of peace
- 2000- Israel agreed to give more land for peace, but Palestinian responded by sending suicide bombers into Israel.
- Palestinian’s are taught at a very young age to hate Jew’s and Israel
- One side wants the other dead
- The land that we call Israel has never been an Arab, Palestinian, or Muslims, state

[TheNewbie]

Can I leave this here....or should I just GTFOH?

[b]- Israel Wants to exist as a Jewish state
- Muslims and Arabs don’t accept Israel as a Jewish state
- May 15, 1948 Jordan, Libyan , Syria, Iraq, Egypt attack Israel
- Israel survived the attack
- 1967- Nasser ( Egypt) attacked Israel again with other Arab countries
- Israel attack Egypt and Syria, but not Jordan and asked Jordan King not to join the war, but he did.
- Then Israel took control of the Sinai peninsula West bank of the Jordan river
- Arab states went Sudan (after war) and announced their famous 3 no’s
--No Recognition
--No Peace
--No Negotiations
- 1978- Israel gave back Sinai peninsula back to Egypt for the promise of peace
- 2000- Israel agreed to give more land for peace, but Palestinian responded by sending suicide bombers into Israel.
- Palestinian’s are taught at a very young age to hate Jew’s and Israel
- One side wants the other dead
- The land that we call Israel has never been an Arab, Palestinian, or Muslims, state [/..b]

Easy with the bold there bro.. But yeah, that's pretty much right.

Israel made a full withdrawal from the entire Gaza strip on 2005, as a token of their gratitude the Palestinians turned Gaza to the world's biggest terrorist base, lobbing thousands of rockets into Israel, digging tunnels underground into Israel to be used for terrorist attacks, sending suicide bombers from there, snipe at Israeli roads with guided missiles, etc.

[Vargas]

Israel says Swedish foreign minister is 'not welcome' in country

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...stinian-deaths