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    Deadlift Placement

    So, recently I've begun conventional deadlifting on back day. Up until now, I've always done them on leg day. I'm doing RDLs on leg day.

    I started out doing deads at the start of the back day, quickly finding myself gassed for the rest of the workout and kinda stiff during the deads, even with warmup sets.

    Tonight I tried putting them at the end of the workout and things turned out much better! I wasn't gassed for pull ups and t-bar rows. I didn't even feel short of energy or stiff for deads. Things felt pretty much the same as doing them on leg day.

    Now for the point of this post: I've done a bit of research and read about people having a quandry concerning doing deads first or last on leg day. The main con of doing them at the end seems to be lowered numbers for deads.

    I actually didn't find my numbers reduced at all, I was able to pull just as much as when I do them first. Anyone else find this? I don't exactly find my lower back pre-exhausted by pull ups and t-bar rows (or bent rows of any kind). Maybe I just have a relatively strong lower back. Or maybe it's because I feel warmed up and have better energy at the end of the workout.
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    Originally Posted by Rasputin4 View Post
    So, recently I've begun conventional deadlifting on back day. Up until now, I've always done them on leg day. I'm doing RDLs on leg day.

    I started out doing deads at the start of the back day, quickly finding myself gassed for the rest of the workout and kinda stiff during the deads, even with warmup sets.

    Tonight I tried putting them at the end of the workout and things turned out much better! I wasn't gassed for pull ups and t-bar rows. I didn't even feel short of energy or stiff for deads. Things felt pretty much the same as doing them on leg day.

    Now for the point of this post: I've done a bit of research and read about people having a quandry concerning doing deads first or last on leg day. The main con of doing them at the end seems to be lowered numbers for deads.

    I actually didn't find my numbers reduced at all, I was able to pull just as much as when I do them first. Anyone else find this? I don't exactly find my lower back pre-exhausted by pull ups and t-bar rows (or bent rows of any kind). Maybe I just have a relatively strong lower back. Or maybe it's because I feel warmed up and have better energy at the end of the workout.
    If you feel fine then, just keep doing it. However, if you want to go for a pr I would definitely do them first that day.
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    I do deads first on back day, since its one of the main compounds.
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    If this matters, I pyramid up sets of 5 on deadlifts. Hit a pr on my top set last night, doing deads at the end of back day.

    Here's what I did: 215•5, 245•5, 275•5, 305•5, 350•5.

    My previous pr was that exact same pyramid but the top set at 345•5.

    So, I don't really think doing deads last is hindering any pr's.
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    Originally Posted by Rasputin4 View Post
    So, recently I've begun conventional deadlifting on back day. Up until now, I've always done them on leg day. I'm doing RDLs on leg day.

    I started out doing deads at the start of the back day, quickly finding myself gassed for the rest of the workout and kinda stiff during the deads, even with warmup sets.

    Tonight I tried putting them at the end of the workout and things turned out much better! I wasn't gassed for pull ups and t-bar rows. I didn't even feel short of energy or stiff for deads. Things felt pretty much the same as doing them on leg day.

    Now for the point of this post: I've done a bit of research and read about people having a quandry concerning doing deads first or last on leg day. The main con of doing them at the end seems to be lowered numbers for deads.

    I actually didn't find my numbers reduced at all, I was able to pull just as much as when I do them first. Anyone else find this? I don't exactly find my lower back pre-exhausted by pull ups and t-bar rows (or bent rows of any kind). Maybe I just have a relatively strong lower back. Or maybe it's because I feel warmed up and have better energy at the end of the workout.


    I feel if i start with dead lifts it actually will make me feel stronger for the rest of my workout
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    It's generally a good idea to do heaviest exercises first.
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    Personal preference but i row, pullup then deadlift. Actually doing them fist today for a change and to see how it might effect me
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    Originally Posted by skel1977 View Post
    Personal preference but i row, pullup then deadlift. Actually doing them fist today for a change and to see how it might effect me
    Doing them first I feel like someone ran over me with a truck while doing pull ups and bent rows. I was still able to hit my numbers on the lifts, it just felt like it took every ounce of energy and will power I had to do what I can normally do with much energy reserve left in the tank.

    The deads don't exhaust me nearly so much after I'm already warmed up from the pull ups and bent rows. Even if I do them on leg day after some front squats, they don't exhaust me that much. But doing them first just wipes me out.
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