who to vote for other than Trump and Hilary?? (srs)(reps for discussion)

[ectobruh]

actually going to vote this year. i'll be damned if i see these two clowns take this country to hell in a handbasket

need more options and supporting reasons. seems voting is just a reality tv show these days.

-not voting for hilary because of blatant failures and lies/scandals
-trump is racist as fuk, why the fuk would he care about any other race. not to mention his cringe-worthy attempts for attention, i could imagine what he would be like in office

reps for thoughts and other options. will be back in an hour cause it's leg day 3

[unicornsRreal]

Rand Paul is a man with a plan......I like his flat income tax proposal to reform the IRS.

[ectobruh]

Rand Paul is a man with a plan.

supporting evidence? vids?

[unicornsRreal]

supporting evidence? vids?

He proposes a flat tax across the board of around 14 percent of income earners over 50,000. But I do believe for that to work it would need to be a bit higher to around 17-20 percent.

[ectobruh]

He proposes a flat tax across the board of around 14 percent of income earners over 50,000. But I do believe for that to work it would need to be a bit higher to around 17-20 percent.

[buildingbrah]

Christie seemed level headed enough, even if I disagree on immigration w/him. That, and apparently he's running Jersey to the ground. Oh, and dude's fat, if you can live w/that.

[YouthfulLean]

actually going to vote this year. i'll be damned if i see these two clowns take this country to hell in a handbasket

need more options and supporting reasons. seems voting is just a reality tv show these days.

-not voting for hilary because of blatant failures and lies/scandals
-trump is racist as fuk, why the fuk would he care about any other race. not to mention his cringe-worthy attempts for attention, i could imagine what he would be like in office

reps for thoughts and other options. will be back in an hour cause it's leg day 3

While I don't get to vote for your president I've read a lot of good things about Bernie Sanders. He's been pretty stable with his economic doctrine (not much spending on war but a lot on reforming the US). I hope he doesn't end up being a Rand or Ron Paul though, those brothers will never get anywhere.

[iZordon]

Lmao @ u this countries elections are pre determined but that's none of my business

[unicornsRreal]

Christie seemed level headed enough, even if I disagree on immigration w/him. That, and apparently he's running Jersey to the ground. Oh, and dude's fat, if you can live w/that.

Can not vote for a fatty just like I cannot for a hag like Hillary.

[recedingjaw]

He proposes a flat tax across the board of around 14 percent of income earners over 50,000. But I do believe for that to work it would need to be a bit higher to around 17-20 percent.

Lmao at a flat tax. So you want to put all of the IRS, half of the accounting industry and half of the legal industry out of work to enact a tax scheme that will actually increase taxes for virtually all of the lower to middle class taxpayers? In an election year? Even if the economy were chugging along nicely, you can't just scrap the entire system without plunging the government and most businesses into chaos.

Don't be so simple minded.

[Ikeman83]

Lmao at a flat tax. So you want to put all of the IRS, half of the accounting industry and half of the legal industry out of work to enact a tax scheme that will actually increase taxes for virtually all of the lower to middle class taxpayers? In an election year? Even if the economy were chugging along nicely, you can't just scrap the entire system without plunging the government and most businesses into chaos.

Don't be so simple minded.

It would be a tax cut, because Paul also wants to eliminate the FICO tax, which is the biggest tax on most wage earners income.

http://www.randpaul.com/

Seriously, check out Rand Paul, he's a great candidate.

[TMaC828]

https://www.isidewith.com/

[Highinthegym]

While I don't get to vote for your president I've read a lot of good things about Bernie Sanders. He's been pretty stable with his economic doctrine (not much spending on war but a lot on reforming the US). I hope he doesn't end up being a Rand or Ron Paul though, those brothers will never get anywhere.

he's a fukking self-proclaimed socialist.

enjoy your 70% income tax and running deficits in the U.S. until your grandchildren's grandchildren are born

(not srs the dollar will crash long before then and all hell will break loose)

we're basically on our last leg already. America can't endure another 8 years of this psychotic leftist utopianism

[NVious]

he's a fukking self-proclaimed socialist.

enjoy your 70% income tax and running deficits in the U.S. until your grandchildren's grandchildren are born

(not srs the dollar will crash long before then and all hell will break loose)

we're basically on our last leg already. America can't endure another 8 years of this psychotic leftist utopianism

[Dave P]

Should probably not get ahead of yourself and wait until the primaries are done....

[Fozzy13]

pls dont vote, you are obviously dumb as fuk just based on your OP..


but if you do, vote Rand Paul

[ectobruh]

Lmao @ u this countries elections are pre determined but that's none of my business

although this is true i just can't sit here and let people with the intelligence of a rock let 2 of the worst options ever in history dictate what happens in this country

[recedingjaw]

While I don't get to vote for your president I've read a lot of good things about Bernie Sanders. He's been pretty stable with his economic doctrine (not much spending on war but a lot on reforming the US). I hope he doesn't end up being a Rand or Ron Paul though, those brothers will never get anywhere.

Sanders is clueless. Economic socialism always fails and certainly would not work in the US.

[Nigeria69696969]

Doesnt matter who you vote for OP. There hasnt been a good all around president since Teddy Roosevelt.

Both political parties have been phucked up for a long time. The republican party by giving leadership positions to literal idiots and the democrats by pandering to minorities to get votes. Remember OP whoever wins, ur phucked.

[GnarlySheen]

-trump is racist as fuk, why the fuk would he care about any other race. not to mention his cringe-worthy attempts for attention, i could imagine what he would be like in office

What makes trump a racist?

[SazabiBrah]

Trump for president!

100% srs

[YouthfulLean]

he's a fukking self-proclaimed socialist.

enjoy your 70% income tax and running deficits in the U.S. until your grandchildren's grandchildren are born

(not srs the dollar will crash long before then and all hell will break loose)

we're basically on our last leg already. America can't endure another 8 years of this psychotic leftist utopianism

As an economics student and someone who has seen "socialist" doctrines at work (more like capitalist 90% socialism 10%) I doubt anyone is a real socialist. Well, they really can't be it given the global workings of the free market. Nations are obligated to become to some degree capitalistic. So If I where you I wouldn't worry about that.

[recedingjaw]

What makes trump a racist?

This

So because trump displays negativity toward illegal Mexican immigrants (and illegals in general) he is racist? Way to spin his words (typical liberal thing to do)

[Dukakis2016]

Jim Webb srs. Veteran, moderate, well educated, was a journalist and won an Emmy. But probably won't get enough attention because of the circus that presidential election has become.

[ironicinori]

This

So because trump displays negativity toward illegal Mexican immigrants (and illegals in general) he is racist? Way to spin his words (typical liberal thing to do)

Not only that. He's actually spitting truth. Are you calling simple statistics racist?

[Highinthegym]

Honestly the problem isn't with not taxing the rich enough

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/do-ric...eir-fair-share

"Those making over $200,000 comprise just over 5 percent of the nation’s taxpayers, earn 32.3 percent of the income, but pay 46.7 percent of total federal taxes and 70 percent of federal income taxes."

Giving tax breaks and government subsidies to giant corporations that don't need/deserve them is a much bigger problem.

The other big problem is our mandatory spending.



I know people just want to do the right thing and offer assistance to people who need it. It's a noble intention, truly. The problem is the stifling fukking bureaucracy, lack of transparency, lack of accountability, etc. It's not sustainable. Until we make cuts / restructure these programs we will never balance our ledger period.

[SazabiBrah]

Not only that. He's actually spitting truth. Are you calling simple statistics racist?

This.

It's actually mind-blowing (and downright sad) what people are calling racist nowadays

[NVious]

Honestly the problem isn't with not taxing the rich enough

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/do-ric...eir-fair-share



Giving tax breaks and government subsidies to giant corporations that don't need/deserve them is a much bigger problem.

The other big problem is our mandatory spending.



I know people just want to do the right thing and offer assistance to people who need it. It's a noble intention, truly. The problem is the stifling fukking bureaucracy, lack of transparency, lack of accountability, etc. It's not sustainable. Until we make cuts / restructure these programs we will never balance our ledger period.

Agreed

[JamesMUSCLE]

brb making comments about illegal immigrants suddenly makes you racist.

[tank2003]

does OP even know what the electoral college is? I would vote for ANYONE before i vote for hillary. I def dont want trump in office, but he is, by magnitudes, a better candidate than hillary. At least trump is financial savvy. He cant possible eff out country up worse than Obama.

But all that being said, hillary will probably win because of the electroal college. States like CA, who hold 55 electoral votes will vote democrat every election just because of the political affiliation, regardless of candidate, stance, smartness etc