What ingredient has the most scientific backing to increase pumps/muscle?

[xxx_jfb_xxx]

Besides:

Food
Creatine
Protein

Would it be citrulline mallate?

[chris mason]

Sugar - yes, I am serious. It has to do with insulin.

[xxx_jfb_xxx]

Sugar - yes, I am serious. It has to do with insulin.

We'll say besides sugar then, as well. God knows I get enough of that as it is.

[iamjeffrey]

Nitrates.
GMS
L-Cit

[xxx_jfb_xxx]

Nitrates.
GMS
L-Cit

All of them increase muscle mass as well?

Maybe I meant L-Citrulline instead of Citrulline Mallate. Is there a difference? Or is it like creatine monohydrate vs other types of creatine?

[Gwyndane]

no supp will "increase" your muscle

[cr357]

Nitrates and GMS (pumps), there's a thread around here somewhere with a thorough explanation to your question.

[dragonalex]

Citrulline Malate, Creatine Nitrate, Glycerol monostearate, and Agmatine Sulfate.

All these are Money.

Imagine the pump on 6-8 grams of CM, 1 gram Agmatine Sulfate, 3 scoops of Glycergrow, and SAN's Creatine Nitrate caps.

It would be some scary stuff. #Drinklotsofwater

[xLGx]

All of them increase muscle mass as well?

lol wut

[cbs]

Try potassium nitrate and thank me later. Muscles will be pumped up for sure.

[xxx_jfb_xxx]

lol wut

An increase in pump should increase muscle mass over time. Am I wrong? I mean what other reason is there for pumps, unless you just enjoy the feeling?

I hate to be "that guy" but l-arginine gives me pumps but since it's proven it doesn't do anything, why take it? Do you see what I'm saying or not?

[xxx_jfb_xxx]

Nitrates and GMS (pumps), there's a thread around here somewhere with a thorough explanation to your question.

If you can find that, it would be greatly appreciated. Or at least a name so I can try to search it. Thanks.

[xLGx]

An increase in pump should increase muscle mass over time. Am I wrong? I mean what other reason is there for pumps, unless you just enjoy the feeling?

I hate to be "that guy" but l-arginine gives me pumps but since it's proven it doesn't do anything, why take it? Do you see what I'm saying or not?

Yes, you're wrong. People will spend money purely on pump products because they like the way it feels/looks after a workout. There is no scientific evidence that this will increase LBM.

[DasPhilosopher]

Nitrates.
GMS
L-Cit

Viagra?

[xxx_jfb_xxx]

Yes, you're wrong. People will spend money purely on pump products because they like the way it feels/looks after a workout. There is no scientific evidence that this will increase LBM.

Alright, thanks.

[xLGx]

Alright, thanks.

And if you like arginine, try citrulline and/or nitrates that actually does increase nitric oxide.

[xxx_jfb_xxx]

And if you like arginine, try citrulline and/or nitrates that actually does increase nitric oxide.

Will do. I was leaning towards the citrulline. I have given it a shot but not at the 6-8 gram dosage.

[xLGx]

Will do. I was leaning towards the citrulline. I have given it a shot but not at the 6-8 gram dosage.

Citrulline malate = 6-8g range.

L-citrulline = 3-4g range.

I use 3 scoops of SNS citrulline malate (3g each scoop) = 9g.

[iamjeffrey]

Citrulline malate = 6-8g range.

L-citrulline = 3-4g range.

I use 3 scoops of SNS citrulline malate (3g each scoop) = 9g.

Endurance through the roof.

[BenBlue]

I prefer L-Cit over Cit Mal, but GMS over both. Only issue w GMS is it doesn't mix for shyte. Pumps are superb tho. Potassium nitrate has GMS beat out in my books tho as the best stand alone pump ingredient. Haven't tried Agmatine as a stand alone, and it has minimal research backing it's pump properties. Hard to say where it places.

[misfit28]

Have you tried ArA, OP (X-Factor, X-gels)? I get ridiculous pumps after I've been using it preworkout only for ~2 weeks.

I also feel like it is an effective strength/muscle building supp.

[iamjeffrey]

Have you tried ArA, OP (X-Factor, X-gels)? I get ridiculous pumps after I've been using it preworkout only for ~2 weeks.

I also feel like it is an effective strength/muscle building supp.

Yea the pumps are awesome. As well as the all day fullness/hardness dat chit gives me. 1.5g a day pwo for me when I run it. Love it. Have 3 bottles juuuuust waiting to be used soon.jpg

[BULLED]

An increase in pump should increase muscle mass over time.

Lol, no. The only thing pumps increases is your Ego in front of the mirror at the gym. Not to mention that too many pump may even be counterproductive for a hard workout. Total waste of money, but you know... to each his own. Kids nowadays love that feeling, pumps + stims. That's what makes you huuuge. Yeah buddy!

[BenBlue]

Lol, no. The only thing pumps increases is your Ego in front of the mirror at the gym. Not to mention that too many pump may even be counterproductive for a hard workout. Total waste of money, but you know... to each his own. Kids nowadays love that feeling, pumps + stims. That's what makes you huuuge. Yeah buddy!

lol a pump does not increase muscle mass, but a good pump product/ingredient can certainly aid towards a stellar workout. Helps with mind-muscle connection when targeting muscle groups, feels great which will put you in the right mind set to lift, aids in nutrient delivery which will help recovery and endurance. Saying that pumps are good for nothing more then an ego boost is a pretty narrow minded idea.

[Jiigzz]

Lol, no. The only thing pumps increases is your Ego in front of the mirror at the gym. Not to mention that too many pump may even be counterproductive for a hard workout. Total waste of money, but you know... to each his own. Kids nowadays love that feeling, pumps + stims. That's what makes you huuuge. Yeah buddy!

This.

tend to avoid any ingredients that increase pump because I like to work full ROM. Sometimes pumps get so insane that they limit ROM, especially in the biceps during a back workout. That's just me though.

Take some Nitrates and do curls in a night clubs bathroom to get the girls though

[BULLED]

lol a pump does not increase muscle mass, but a good pump product/ingredient can certainly aid towards a stellar workout. Helps with mind-muscle connection when targeting muscle groups, feels great which will put you in the right mind set to lift, aids in nutrient delivery which will help recovery and endurance. Saying that pumps are good for nothing more then an ego boost is a pretty narrow minded idea.

Mind-muscle connection, huh? Lol. You know what? It's your money, you can waste it on whatever you want.

[BenBlue]

Mind-muscle connection, huh? Lol. You know what? It's your money, you can waste it on whatever you want.

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I know, crazy concept right?

[xLGx]

Helps with mind-muscle connection when targeting muscle groups

This would be insinuating that increased blood flow to muscles = increased psychological attention to form. That's stretching it a little bit.

And nutrient delivery? Sorry, but nutrients are delivered perfectly fine in normal blood vessels.

[BenBlue]

This would be insinuating that increased blood flow to muscles = increased psychological attention to form. That's stretching it a little bit.

And nutrient delivery? Sorry, but nutrients are delivered perfectly fine in normal blood vessels.

When you feel a pump in a muscle group, it's easier to lock into that muscle groupon mentally and focus on targeting it. It's easy to **** up form. We all see it in the gym everyday. With a pump, I feel it's a lot easier stay focused on the desired muscle group. Not that far fetched a concept.

[xLGx]

When you feel a pump in a muscle group, it's easier to lock into that muscle groupon mentally and focus on targeting it. It's easy to **** up form. We all see it in the gym everyday. With a pump, I feel it's a lot easier stay focused on the desired muscle group. Not that far fetched a concept.

Again, not saying that theory is wrong per say, but it's a stretch. Going into a workout with a mental commitment to pay attention to form would accomplish this too.

The nutrient delivery comment is wrong, however.