Millennials say no to marriage

[LikeAMachine]

25 year old, kind, not complicated, raised right, beautiful, PHD (Doctorate) that loves me alot, Loves her daddy and doesn't spend her money on stupid sh*t, no debt (school was scholarships). I'm 32, wat do misc

[Renegade83]

25 year old, kind, not complicated, raised right, beautiful, PHD (Doctorate) that loves me alot, Loves her daddy and doesn't spend her money on stupid sh*t, no debt (school was scholarships). I'm 32, wat do misc

Do you have a lot of assets/cash or are on the way to them?

[LikeAMachine]

Do you have a lot of assets?

I do not.

[flairon]

and not a single acknowledgement of the busted court system was seen that day...

because if you're not marrying a shallow meatsack, the court system is irrelevant, you'll never be there

[Pally13]

Lets here the details bro.

It's the same old song and dance

We were high school sweethearts. after graduation she put on the "I'm happy to be your teammate and try to make this work out" mask while I found my place in life. Eventually we were 20 years old working multiple jobs paying for an apartment and acquiring the things we wanted. It was slow, but it was progress.

Once I started bringing in more $$$ I plunked down for a house. She made the executive decision to quit her job to "take care of the house" which seemed like a good idea at the time.

Like a buffoon, I tried to make the best of that situation and kept plowing ahead with the brutal job that I've come to hate over the years. The old "Man goes to work all day and comes home to a wife, clean house and dinner, then possibly sex" fantasy that all men desiring marriage have.

Before I realized the truth about this situation, I had married her. No one even tried to talk me out of it. Nothing but encouraging words from men who had been married multiple times. Egads.

Fast forward a couple years and I'm miserable, she plays videogames all day, no sex, no clean house, no dinner.

TL;DR: My life sucks, my wife doesn't.

RingDips, do not get married.

[Renegade83]

I do not.

Then by all means go for it, but be advised any assets/cash gained after the marriage is up for grabs. So you better triple/quadrupal check you girls background and do some good hard thinking before acting. She's 25, still a lot of growth on her end.

[FunnyWeasel]

I'm surprised that article didn't mention student debt being one of the reasons. Which college or colleges pay the guy to not say chit? Anyways, when I hear something bad happens to someone, I make sure that the same thing doesn't happen to me. I'm not getting married cause my parents are divorced and I sure as hell do not want to end up like them.

[LikeAMachine]

Then by all means go for it, but be advised any assets/cash gained after the marriage is up for grabs. So you better triple/quadrupal check you girls background and do some good hard thinking before acting. She's 25, still a lot of growth on her end.

I'm not in a big hurry or anything.

[Renegade83]

It's the same old song and dance

We were high school sweethearts. after graduation she put on the "I'm happy to be your teammate and try to make this work out" mask while I found my place in life. Eventually we were 20 years old working multiple jobs paying for an apartment and acquiring the things we wanted. It was slow, but it was progress.

Once I started bringing in more $$$ I plunked down for a house. She made the executive decision to quit her job to "take care of the house" which seemed like a good idea at the time.

Like a buffoon, I tried to make the best of that situation and kept plowing ahead with the brutal job that I've come to hate over the years. The old "Man goes to work all day and comes home to a wife, clean house and dinner, then possibly sex" fantasy that all men desiring marriage have.

Before I realized the truth about this situation, I had married her. No one even tried to talk me out of it. Nothing but encouraging words from men who had been married multiple times. Egads.

Fast forward a couple years and I'm miserable, she plays videogames all day, no sex, no clean house, no dinner.

TL;DR: My life sucks, my wife doesn't.

RingDips, do not get married.

Wow bro, sorry to hear that. That's my worst fear stuck in a no win situation like that. I'm not religious so I believe we only have 1 shot at this life. Being stuck and miserable is the worst case scenario. I would rather stack cash, travel, meet new people and experience new things then get tied down to 1 person. I sure as **** wouldn't want to raise kids in the environment out there today.

[LikeAMachine]

Wow bro, sorry to hear that. That's my worst fear stuck in a no win situation like that.

Even if it cost me everything, if I was that unhappy, I would bail.

[Renegade83]

I'm not in a big hurry or anything.

Good, just take your time son.

And Invisalign rocks, invest in an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner and Retainer Brite cleaning tablets to keep the trays clean and stink-free.

[RingDips]

TL;DR: My life sucks, my wife doesn't.

RingDips, do not get married.

That sucks, bro. I'm genuinely sorry to hear all that.

Do you really think every relationship has the potential to go down this path, though? I don't.

My own circumstances are simply not conducive to things ending badly. I wish everyone in the world could experience the level of love and trust I have, srs; it truly is a symbiotic relationship.

She also makes more money than I do, lawl. If she's gold-digging, then she's digging on the wrong beach.

[Renegade83]

Even if it cost me everything, if I was that unhappy, I would bail.

Which is the right thing to do, what the real kicker is is that you can't just bail as in get away clean. Child support and alimony are things you can't bail from unfortunately.

[Pally13]

RingDips, I was in your situation and thought exactly as you do. She even made more money than I did when we started.

It's not that people change, it's that you'll see who they really are when the paradigm shifts.

[flairon]

Which is the right thing to do, what the real kicker is is that you can't just bail as in get away clean. Child support and alimony are things you can't bail from unfortunately.

you shouldnt be able to 'bail' from child support

[IDrinkBloodLOL]

25 year old, kind, not complicated, raised right, beautiful, PHD (Doctorate) that loves me alot, Loves her daddy and doesn't spend her money on stupid sh*t, no debt (school was scholarships). I'm 32, wat do misc

Well, what race are you and what race is she?

[Streetbull]

Marry a highly educated woman, one who makes big money. My wife always made more than me because of our career choices so just don't marry an uneducated bar fly wench.

[Apeus]

When you're living down by the river in a van and chitting in a bucket in the corner because you got took for everything because its the only way you can afford alimony and child support to avoid jail in a rigged court system, then it may dawn on you that "stuff" matters.

Don't forget about all the doobie rolling he'll be doing.

[LikeAMachine]

Well, what race are you and what race is she?

We're both White.

[ashin1]

How has no body mentioned the idea of a prenuptial?

[CitizenVagrant]

Sadly when those 40 year old women to decide they want a child there will be

there will be...no eggs left in the tank. Congratulations!

Sorry ladies, once you hit dem 40's, odds of taking a kid to full term drop dramatically. Guess there's always the option of raising the cast-away offspring of your reproductive betters, right? After all, the kid was probably that of an Alpha who just hit it and quit it with a mommy who didn't want to raise him and dropped them off at the orphanage. So you get what you wanted all along!

I have witnessed too much horror in my time in far too personal of a manner to engage in marriage, or even relationships. Father and Mother divorced after 26 years, Brother divorced from his wife after 14 years.

I don't need to get married to know how bad it is - I witnessed it all first hand, twice.

If that isn't enough to turn someone off forever, the Internet makes a great point of reinforcement.

[Renegade83]

How has no body mentioned the idea of a prenuptial?

You're a young guy so nobody has probably told you this. Pre-nups are usually about as useful as the paper they are written on. You're soon to be ex-wife's lawyer will immediately move to get it thrown out by saying you coerced her into signing it or she was unaware of what it entailed.

Also that goal of your of having $100k net worth by 2015? If you are married have fun with it being a 50/50 shot of keeping that net worth.

[RingDips]

RingDips, I was in your situation and thought exactly as you do. She even made more money than I did when we started.

It's not that people change, it's that you'll see who they really are when the paradigm shifts.

Yeah, your situation is all kinds of fukked up. Again, I'm sorry to hear it, and I appreciate you sounding the warning bell on behalf of those who might otherwise make ill-advised choices.

But I remain supremely confident that I'm making the right call. I've been redpilled on marriage and anti-male divorce settlements since my teenage years, and I wouldn't be taking this step if I wasn't 100% certain.

[flairon]

a lot of angry FA's in the R/P

[ashin1]

You're a young guy so nobody has probably told you this. Pre-nups are usually about as useful as the paper they are written on. You're soon to be ex-wife's lawyer will immediately move to get it thrown out by saying you coerced her into signing it or she was unaware of what it entailed.

Also that goal of your of having $100k net worth by 2015? If you are married have fun with it being a 50/50 shot of keeping that net worth.

Oh snap. That honestly freaks me out. And no I am not married. I do have a girlfriend but no plans Ok marriage for many many years at least 10

[DasPhilosopher]

a lot of angry FA's in the R/P

Am i angry?

[IDrinkBloodLOL]

We're both White.

Sweet. Then I give my thumbs up, best of luck to you two. Hope you have six kids.

[Pally13]

How has no body mentioned the idea of a prenuptial?

Want to see how fast a woman can go from calm and serene to full-blown banshee?

Besides, when you're in love with someone, you think it's going to last forever and ever...

Plus what Renegade said.

[HankScorp1o]

This line of thinking is what the problem is. Most people have more love for their "stuff" that the actual relationships which is one cause of people splitting anyway. It screams selfishness.

It also goes both ways with a person wanting to hurt and take away everything from the other person.

It's human nature to care about what you can earn (take), and keep (protect), brah.

That's not the big problem, the insane entitlement laws which grant ridiculous spousal support/alimony/etc to women as a disproportionate rate are, simply because men are wising up to the serious risks of financial loss should a marriage go south.

[ashin1]

Want to see how fast a woman can go from calm and serene to full-blown banshee?

Besides, when you're in love with someone, you think it's going to last forever and ever...

Plus what Renegade said.

Mind is blown who prenuptial won't hold in court. Also i don't give any chits if a woman went banshee mode on me. I've been through worse.