When you say "besting", is that because he won in your opinion only? Coz that's just weird.
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07-18-2014, 09:28 PM #31Novice Athletic Tall winner and Overall Athletic winner
at the 2014 NABBA Waikato Champs.
"Or it could prove that IIFYM is a complete waste of time if you are a serious competitor." - KCTonyG 2014
From the mouths of bros.
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07-18-2014, 10:06 PM #32
I expected that response.
Indeed, they decided to hit them differently, although, I'm assuming flang wanted to pinpoint Phil's conditioning over Kai in that comparison shot (FLS), although, it is not a good comparison to pinpoint conditioning, since Kai isn't flexing completely, while Phil is, which is why I said what I said.
*Edit: I missed a bunch of post in the previous page, I'll get to them in a moment.
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07-18-2014, 10:14 PM #33
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07-18-2014, 10:25 PM #34
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07-19-2014, 12:02 AM #35
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07-19-2014, 01:47 AM #36
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07-19-2014, 02:43 AM #37
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07-19-2014, 03:21 AM #38
I wouldn't go as far to say Phil is straight up a better bodybuilder (because Kai has built a bigger and more balanced physique) but in terms of being better at nailing condition and showing up in shape consistently, Phil is obviously better. But being slightly more conditioned shouldn't hold more value than mass and proportion and certainly not enough to get perfect scores. At the end of the day the IFBB is a business that only exists to make money and Phil is more marketable. If Kai was as pretty as Phil, then he would most likely be Mr.O.
I do think Phil is a great bodybuilder BTWtattoos - http://facepolution.deviantart.com/
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07-19-2014, 05:34 AM #39
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07-19-2014, 06:25 AM #40
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07-19-2014, 07:31 AM #41
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07-19-2014, 07:35 AM #42
Very good post.
I can see where DPNZ is coming from coz they are so close that ultimately his statement could be made for either bodybuilder. The reason the fans of these two always get into such heated debates is because each side wants their guy to come in and crush the other but it will never happen because they are so close.
Some say the reason for Phil's success is politics but I think the IFBB has made very good decisions at the Olympia. Kai has been too inconsistent. The results at some of the shows after the Olympia have been a little embarrassing but it is to be expected unfortunately.Natural Bodybuilding - The Lonely Journey
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07-19-2014, 09:47 AM #43
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