A friend of mine who is from Guyana asked me, Why do Americans say exactly the same? According to him that is improper English. He says it should be, They are exact.
Now I am not an authority in English, but I think stating "Those two knives are exactly the same" seems like proper English to me. As oppose to, "Those two knives are exact".
The only thing he kind of convince me on was how we say New Years Eve, he said in Guyana is Old Years Night, which actually makes more sense.
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07-17-2014, 05:47 PM #1Da1UnV
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Exactly the same, disagreement.
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07-17-2014, 05:57 PM #2sudo apt-get beer
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They are exact. Exact opposites? Exact matches? Exact what?Originally Posted by bodyhard
New Years Eve makes perfect sense, it is the eve of a new year.
Eve:
the day or period of time immediately before an event or occasion.I'm a sad little man
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07-17-2014, 06:20 PM #3If you poke a bear in the eye, expect a bear like response.
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07-17-2014, 06:52 PM #4I grunt
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07-17-2014, 06:56 PM #5The Mini Shadow
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Can someone please tell me if:
"For all intents and purposes"
or
"For all intensive purposes"
is correct?
This has been bugging me for about 3 years.Don't put that on me Ricky Bobby, don't you ever put that on me.
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07-17-2014, 07:07 PM #6The Mini Shadow
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I was hoping from help from a native Guyanese speaker !Originally Posted by Oceanside
I believe from watching Papillon that that the native language of Guyana is FrenchDon't put that on me Ricky Bobby, don't you ever put that on me.
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07-17-2014, 07:20 PM #7Registered User
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"Exactly the same" could be considered redundant. You could just say "those two knives are the same" , and that could convey what you're trying to say. But English is a dynamic language (I suppose others are too), and it sounds more precise to say "exactly the same" , to say unquestionably what you want to say.
To say they are exact is meaningless and your Guyanan friend doesn't know exactly what he's talking about.
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07-17-2014, 07:22 PM #8Banned
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"For all intents and purposes"Originally Posted by Bando
Go and buggeth no more.
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07-17-2014, 07:23 PM #9Banned
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What if your purpose is intense? Duh.Originally Posted by Oceanside
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07-17-2014, 07:27 PM #10Registered User
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---Originally Posted by Oceanside
But there is intensive care.
BH could explain that, I imagine.
And the correct phrase, Bando, is as you said, "For all intents and purposes" which is considered to be the North American way of saying it. British tend to use "to"."Don't call me Miss Kitty. Just...don't."--Catnip. Check out the Catnip Trilogy on Amazon.com
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07-17-2014, 08:42 PM #11fat fukc
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ok, how about this one...
"never, ever, ever"...why not just say never or never, never, never????
What does ever have to do with never?Well meaning, elderly man with a poor memory...pause
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07-17-2014, 09:12 PM #12Registered User
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Then of course there is "brand spanking new". Where exactly does the spanking part come from....and do you have to pay extra for that?????
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07-18-2014, 12:30 AM #13Registered User
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Where does the Brand come into it. It should be just said as "New". But the Brand spanking is used to emphasize the fact that it is really really new. A lot of people who don't usually swear, will use swearing words to emphasize something they are saying. To people that know them and hear them swear, they think " man, he really means it" People that do use swearing in their normal vocab will usually raise their voice to a higher / louder pitch when swearing in order to emphasize a comment.Originally Posted by LMS62
Also for Bando, its "intents and purposes"pick it up and put it down
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07-18-2014, 02:20 AM #14Registered User
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Well,for all intents and purposes,New Years Eve and Old Years Night are exactly the same,in an intensive purpose sake.Either way,we welcome a brand spanking new year,(whence I usually swear to not swear.)
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07-18-2014, 06:21 AM #15Saved
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So you guys fought with the knives, right?
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07-18-2014, 06:38 AM #16The Flanimal project
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I have got to the bottom of the page and there has been no fight description yet. What exact is going on?
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07-18-2014, 06:45 AM #17Saved
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That's money sir.Originally Posted by Flounderbout
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07-18-2014, 07:02 AM #18Registered User
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Where does the "brand" part fit in though?Originally Posted by eomrat
Maybe branding livestock?
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07-18-2014, 07:16 AM #19Registered User
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The expression goes back almost five hundred years. While the urban dictionary says it's the practice of spanking newborns, this site begs to differ.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/b...nking-new.html
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"It appears that whoever coined 'brand spanking new' did so by appropriating the imagery of 'spick and span', the rhyming of 'bran' and 'span' and the meaning of 'spanking' to produce a satisfying-sounding phrase with some appropriate associations. Whatever the intent of the early users of the phrase it is, in Eric Partridge's meaning of the term, a catchphrase, that is, it has caught on. It appears to have been coined around the turn of the 20th century and is still in common use.""Don't call me Miss Kitty. Just...don't."--Catnip. Check out the Catnip Trilogy on Amazon.com
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07-18-2014, 07:21 AM #20
irregardless
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07-18-2014, 10:05 AM #21Built Upon Struggle
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3 years? That's past the STATUE of limitations. SupposeBly.Originally Posted by Bando
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07-18-2014, 11:06 AM #22Banned
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The Statute of Liberally is one of my faves. Aint no limitations on that.Originally Posted by FlaIronMind
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07-18-2014, 02:56 PM #23Registered User
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----Originally Posted by FlaIronMind
You been hangin' with bbsitum, haven't you?
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07-18-2014, 03:02 PM #24Banned
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GJ, it was hilarious when bbsitum called you Gin Jin.
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07-18-2014, 03:26 PM #25WYSIWYG- working on it
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Exactly can be used as an adjective to even more emphasize the sameness of an object, behavior, or any thing that stimulates the 5 senses.
"That is the same smell as a rose" "That is exactly the same smell as a rose"- there is no deviation, no almost or approximation.
"You are building the exact same house as your neighbor"
"Your house is exactly the same as your neighbors, down to the trim color"I'm open to any suggestions and have a difficult time accepting limitations without an honest effort on my part, you can count on that!
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07-18-2014, 03:48 PM #26Registered User
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--Originally Posted by Phattso
GJ, it was hilarious when bbsitum called you Gin Jin.
He usually bastardizes my name even more. Hey, bad publicity is better than no publicity...but in his case, it's incomprehensible publicity.
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07-18-2014, 05:08 PM #27Built Upon Struggle
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Originally Posted by GuyJin
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You been hangin' with bbsitum, haven't you?
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Pathetic Sonata
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07-22-2014, 09:21 AM #29The show goes on
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so if "neither means nothing" does that mean that both means something??Originally Posted by Oceanside
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07-22-2014, 10:35 AM #30Back at it!
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