High Rep Deadlifts: To bounce or not bounce; that's my question

[IIISpartacusIII]

Typically I reset each rep when deadlifting but I'm doing higher rep deadlifts as part of my program and the bar rolls away from me and my form starts breaking as the set continues and I have to roll the bar back into place each time so should I just hold on to the bar and bounce which would keep the bar in the right groove? By higher reps I mean 12-15 and by bounce I just mean a quick touch and go after each rep rather than a dead stop before the next rep. My fear is that having the bar roll away from my midfoot area will make me round my back, which is in fact what happens when the bar gets too far in front of me.

[isaku900]

i never bounce. the most important part of a deadlift for me and many people is breaking the floor properly. bouncing reduces your practice in leaving the floor properly.

i also never do 12-15 reps for deadlift unless its a dimel or some other very short ROM variant.

[TurtleApe]

Tons of strong people follow both philosophies, I've always done dead stop deadlifts so no bouncing. I just adjust myself to where I need to be between each rep, so maybe a 2-5 second pause in between reps while I get into the proper position. Why is the bar rolling so far away from you between your reps?

[Hamzzza]

i did my AMRAP sets on 5/3/1 TnG and i'd get 10-15 reps on my 3+ and 5+ days and about 7-9 on my 1+ day...was by far the best improvement i've done to my training and the number of reps i've hit stayed the same even though i've added 10 lbs every 15 days... (i've did deadstop deadlifts after squats on squat day too)


...i switch over to deadstop reps only when i started my meet prep, otherwise i would've missed most of my true 95%+ pulls of the floor tbh

in conclusion, i'm staying with a mix of both - i pull sumo though



and the only sumo i've missed recently, I've missed around my knees not at the bottom

[IIISpartacusIII]

Why is the bar rolling so far away from you between your reps?

Thanks for the reply. I sort of "drop" the weight the last inch or two or at least I'm descending a bit more quickly rather than a slow negative so the momentum makes the bar roll away or towards me a bit.

[IIISpartacusIII]

i did my AMRAP sets on 5/3/1 TnG and i'd get 10-15 reps on my 3+ and 5+ days and about 7-9 on my 1+ day...was by far the best improvement i've done to my training and the number of reps i've hit stayed the same even though i've added 10 lbs every 15 days... (i've did deadstop deadlifts after squats on squat day too)


...i switch over to deadstop reps only when i started my meet prep, otherwise i would've missed most of my true 95%+ pulls of the floor tbh

in conclusion, i'm staying with a mix of both - i pull sumo though



and the only sumo i've missed recently, I've missed around my knees not at the bottom

I'm doing AMRAP sets and Wendler 531 as well. Super high rep deadlifts seem silly but I want to stick to the program as it's set up; without any significant alterations.

[ilovethe80s]

Do you need the practice breaking the floor? You know that bounce will make it easier. With 15 reps, the weight is probably not painstakingly heavy so I guess it depends on what you want to get out of it. Would not continue to reset if you are not comfortable and fearing a mis-groove. It is difficult to do that many reps without breaking down, I'd go with whichever option you can do safely.

[cirion0000]

As others have said, there is not one correct answer. However, I do 5/3/1 and I will say that I have gone to dead stop and plan to never go back to TnG personally. My gains have started to go through the roof, and I find myself in better control of the bar at all times, and more confident off the floor as well. I never fail off the ground anymore. I am still weaker than much of you all, but to see my deadlift estimated 1RM go up as high as 10-20 lb (or even more) in just one or two weeks... is well... groundbreaking (no pun intended) at least for me =)

[Screwtape]

Competition deadlifts are from a dead stop, so that's how I do them.

[Hamzzza]

keep in mind i did modified version of 5/3/1 so i finished a cycle in 15 days pretty much

yes, reps of 10-15 reps aren't close to your 1RM(which was even better at that time for me, lower intensity makes room for higher frequency), but if i add 5kg/11lbs every cycle, stay at the same number of reps - and do the same with 20kg/45lbs more after 8 weeks - i think that's pretty good progress

[ketchuponthedog]

Typically I reset each rep when deadlifting but I'm doing higher rep deadlifts as part of my program and the bar rolls away from me and my form starts breaking as the set continues and I have to roll the bar back into place each time so should I just hold on to the bar and bounce which would keep the bar in the right groove? By higher reps I mean 12-15 and by bounce I just mean a quick touch and go after each rep rather than a dead stop before the next rep. My fear is that having the bar roll away from my midfoot area will make me round my back, which is in fact what happens when the bar gets too far in front of me.

I feel like a dead stop is way more specific to powerlifting, since every pull in a meet will be from a dead stop. They both have their uses, but I believe dead stops are way superior for building 1rm strength.

[sheed30]

If I ever go over 5 I do stop and go.. otherwise deadstop

[runtocatch]

I never bounce any reps cuz first of all I'm afraid my old crippled ass will wreck something. Secondly cuz my lockout would start to suck cuz I would not be as fast off the floor.

[phal]

Might have been mentioned earlier but are you using hex or round plates? Only time I'll TNG is if they are hex plates otherwise they roll around and get stuck in a weird startin position.

[adpowah]

I prefer deadstop even when I do my sets at 15 reps. Typically the weight at 15 is pretty light in relation to your 1rm so maintaining form can occupy a lot of the thought process without impeding the lift. Unless you're at your 15 rep max (or exceeding it) it is pretty hard to miss a rep when doing 15s. I do a near full reset after each rep but I don't let go of the bar, I just take my time and move through the setup similar to what I would do for something heavier. Sometimes I start getting really winded for the end of the set but I just slow down a little between reps. I find high rep deadlifts are pretty exhausting so I just treat them like any other endurance effort, focus on my form, try and keep my heart rate fairly steady and make the next rep just like the last rep.

[IIISpartacusIII]

Might have been mentioned earlier but are you using hex or round plates? Only time I'll TNG is if they are hex plates otherwise they roll around and get stuck in a weird startin position.

The Hex plates suck assss big time; I think that's a big part of my issue to begin with. If the plates land on a corner they jump out away from you or toward you. I've got to stick to round plates FTW!!!

[thinkgreen]

My speed off the floor is ****, so I don't bounce. I think it depends on the person and your goals, though.

[musclehead09]

Might have been mentioned earlier but are you using hex or round plates? Only time I'll TNG is if they are hex plates otherwise they roll around and get stuck in a weird startin position.

I hate this so damn much. Then I try to roll the weight to a good starting position and it still is in a bad spot.

[letsdothisbro]

IMO high rep deads are a style you switch over to if you want/lack a strong lockout, and that's TnG. Otherwise I really don't see any point in doing them and honestly most people have a harder time getting it off the floor than locking out so dead stop is beneficial.

Which person are you?

[mrys54]

Above a 5 rep set, I would probably do the touch and go method.

[codyw912]

i never bounce. the most important part of a deadlift for me and many people is breaking the floor properly. bouncing reduces your practice in leaving the floor properly.

i also never do 12-15 reps for deadlift unless its a dimel or some other very short ROM variant.

In the past I would usually just do a touch and go, maybe a little bounce. What I found is that my deadlift is very weak off the floor and I hadnt learned to properly engage my glutes doing this technique.

^^Very true about hex plates, it's really annoying trying to reset with them, the bar never lands perfect with them.

[Rawngus]

Competition deadlifts are from a dead stop, so that's how I do them.

Do you pause every rep on bench too ?

[letsdothisbro]

Do you pause every rep on bench too ?

Most powerlifters do lol
wide grip and arch as well

[HamburgerTrain]

That is a $hitload of reps for a normal deadlift. You really might want to look at your training and ask yourself why on earth you are doing that with moderate weights.

To answer the original post, in the scheme of things, I don't think it really matters either way.