The Official Powerlifting and Strongman Family Appreciation thread: Part XVI

[breathinglife]

it's more than deep enough for GPA

Why do you say this?
I don't think so. GPA is lax in regional/national comps, but at worlds? They redlighted Malan for a very similar squat.



So no, not "more than deep enough" for GPA.

To explain more fully, GPA received a lot of flack for passing high squats in smaller comps, specifically for giving white lights to Zakhir on his 1000kg record total. Perhaps you were thinking back to that total, and that is your reasoning for saying Zakhir was plenty deep enough--which would be true if there hadn't been such a backlash against it. They responded to this by tightening up squat judging at worlds, and thus the red lights on Malan's squat, which was obviously borderline.

So, I doubt they will go easy on lifters, and certainly not Zakhir since he was already banned in GPA for his crazy antics. They will likely be looking to make an example of him if anything. Zakhir has given them trouble on 2 fronts (1) receiving generous judging in a national comp, and (2) disrupting another GPA nationals in Finland to the extent of being banned. So he will probably be judged harshly.

That said, I also would say the judging at GPA Worlds last year was more stringent than the judging at RUM.

Of course, anything is possible--they could loosen things up, but they have been making a concerted effort to do the opposite over the past year or 14 months.

[dtaps24]

Why do you say this?
I don't think so. GPA is lax in regional/national comps, but at worlds? They redlighted Malan for a very similar squat.



So no, not "more than deep enough" for GPA.

Malan's looks deeper than Zahir's.

[mstngvic]

Were you part of his 100% natty lifters coalition or whatever it was called? I don't remember all the details just that 1 of my friends got contacted by Sohmer about joining his crew. I think he explained it like Westside or JTS but for natty lifters and they were gonna have t-shirts and take over the world lol.

I was not a part of this ***gotry (thank god) but he did give me 2 tshirts lol he called it "naturally strong powerlifters" or something. He wanted all of us on the team to buy the shirts for $30 each.
I know up until a month or so ago he was selling the shirts on ebay. Here's his ebay store: http://www.ebay.com/sch/thehulksmash...1&_ipg=&_from= rather interesting lol

Seriously if you guys met Sohmer in real life you'd be astounded that he's a functional adult. He really is that stupid.

I remember when he was training on my team. He decided to throw himself a surprise birthday party, which he did by starting a ******** event for it. Nobody from the team showed up and he got all upset lol I think that's when he figured out we didn't like him.

[breathinglife]

Malan's looks deeper than Zahir's.

I agree. Zahir is probably the most unpredictable lifter in the sport. When he squats to depth and doesn't go off the rails in the warm up room, world records fall. We'll see what happens.

[psychodiver9]

What are people's pre-workouts of choice? Preferably on the website here because the shipping is crazy fast and I'm all out. My last order was the Arnold series stuff because it was on sale, but I wasn't a fan.

Just finishing up Max Out and its hnnnng

[runtocatch]

That's very possible but something I hadn't considered. I have been working hard on bringing up my leg size and strength. I plan to keep working on it .

Thinking back on my training, the issue didn't seem as bad when I was doing more pause squats. My plan of attack right now is more volume on front squats and replace my high bar volume work with high bar paused squats after my low bar squatting

That sounds like a good plan. Do you have an SSB bar available?

I have the same problem, I'm hoping some time with SSB squats will help.

I 100% believe they will.

What are people's pre-workouts of choice? Preferably on the website here because the shipping is crazy fast

I don't even understand how their shipping is as fast as it is. Their warehouse must be just down the road from me or something and I never knew about it.

Seriously if you guys met Sohmer in real life you'd be astounded that he's a functional adult. He really is that stupid.

Trust me I didn't have to meet him. It was apparent just watching him lift a few times. After I heard him speak it was obvious.

[arn710]

That sounds like a good plan. Do you have an SSB bar available?

Yessir

[sheed30]

I must be blind as fuxk...Zahir's 460kg did'nt look as bad as everyone here is saying. It was unquestionably high, but nothing outrageous. While it wouldn't pass in a meet he's not THAT far off depth. I was more concerned with the spotter behind him, def. giving him some support.

Either way, I legit think he's gonna make some records fall and prob beat Dan if he can sink his squat. I do like Dan better, but seeing what Zahir's been doing is crazy.

[breathinglife]

I must be blind as fuxk...Zahir's 460kg did'nt look as bad as everyone here is saying. It was unquestionably high, but nothing outrageous. While it wouldn't pass in a meet he's not THAT far off depth. I was more concerned with the spotter behind him, def. giving him some support.

Either way, I legit think he's gonna make some records fall and prob beat Dan if he can sink his squat. I do like Dan better, but seeing what Zahir's been doing is crazy.

I think you're correct. To be honest, it’s pretty ridiculous. Depth was about like a lot Eric Lilliebridge’s squats IMO, maybe a tad higher, but he is a weight class below. As far as the back spotter assisting? Lilliebridges also come to mind as well, esp. since they sometimes back spot each other very closely in competition. You won't see training partner's back spotting one another one the training platform at GPA Worlds.

The thing is, he doesn’t need 460 kgs, or even anything close to that to get a good enough lead to beat out Dan Green.

[TrettinR]

I don't even understand how their shipping is as fast as it is. Their warehouse must be just down the road from me or something and I never knew about it.

Ya, its ridiculous. The last couple times I've ordered from there I placed my order around lunch time and had it the next day with standard delivery. Apparently there's a shipping facility about an hour from where I live.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/wh...astestShipping

Edit: For all the people who were really concerned about my preworkout decision, I went with something called "scream". And honestly the only reason I decided to get it is because the nutritional label made me laugh: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bo...es/scream.html

[Kaarliitis]

Fam, help me. Once i get near 90% of my max in squat, my knees cave in very badly. How do i cure that? Maybe i have some muscle weakness?

[arn710]

Ya, its ridiculous. The last couple times I've ordered from there I placed my order around lunch time and had it the next day with standard delivery. Apparently there's a shipping facility about an hour from where I live.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/wh...astestShipping

Edit: For all the people who were really concerned about my preworkout decision, I went with something called "scream". And honestly the only reason I decided to get it is because the nutritional label made me laugh: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bo...es/scream.html

Watchout your rage bro

[FrmrHoss]

Goddamn, Keith McHoney is a beast.

Yeah, he was at the last meet I did. I was like, cot damn that guy is strong, what is he, in the 165s? Oh, 148? MINDASPLODE.

[Hamzzza]

i know we don't usually do this, but can we appreciate Violetta a bit even though she squats high ?

















hnnnnngggggggg

[WCbouche]

I went with something called "scream".]

Let me know how it works out for you. I am a supp junkie of sorts and for some reason scream is the only one that doesn't sit well with me. I like the overall build of it so I bought one of the larger tubs when it first released. I feel like I am going to puke every time I take it. I like the flavor and seems to have good focus/energy for me but every time I am under tension I get nauseous. No supp dumps or anything, just an upset stomach.

[martin_mathers]

i know we don't usually do this, but can we appreciate Violetta a bit even though she squats high ?

















hnnnnngggggggg

you da real mvp

[thom2355]

Haven't gotten a haircut or shaved in awhile so I was gonna be lazy and be The Dude for Halloween. But now I got a job interview setup for Wednesday, so I guess I gotta at least trim and make things look nice.

I am doing similar, but I have a huge white t-shirt that will have a University of Michigan polo over it....add a couple accessories and you have homeless/jobless Brady Hoke.

I would like to see that cut.

It would involve a lot of helium.

I don't even understand how their shipping is as fast as it is. Their warehouse must be just down the road from me or something and I never knew about it.

It has improved a ton in the past couple years. The last three orders I have made all arrived the next day. Last one I ordered at 4:30 pm Eastern and it was on my door step the next day. Insanely awesome.

[Mitch666]

Thoughts on attempt selection between: light/medium/PR and medium/small PR/bigger PR?

Most seem to do the former and open with something you can triple for first attempt, in between what you want and first attempt as second, and then PR. However, I've always wondered how much sense that makes.

Isn't it better to try hit a PR or your goal number on second attempt, meaning if you miss you still have another go at it? Obviously tough to fail a lift and get it afterwards, but with a 1RM it may be a small technical error that fails you.

I like to have my opener be my last warmup, I think zmcole said the same. It really is a matter of personal opinion but unless it's a world record scenario I don't see why your opener would ever be heavy enough that it's not a 110% guarantee you'll smoke it.

you da real mvp

she can squat to hoff depth for all I care with dat ass.



Anyone see on ******** Ben Puccio and Jamie Lewis have been posting for awhile how they will both do huge weight cuts to go head to head at 181 for RUM? Puccio is like 205, which yea that's a big cut but doable. Jamie is walking around at 220 right now though. I know he's one yolo mfer but that is just nuts.

[TrettinR]

Let me know how it works out for you. I am a supp junkie of sorts and for some reason scream is the only one that doesn't sit well with me. I like the overall build of it so I bought one of the larger tubs when it first released. I feel like I am going to puke every time I take it. I like the flavor and seems to have good focus/energy for me but every time I am under tension I get nauseous. No supp dumps or anything, just an upset stomach.

Hmm.... well that makes me worry. I should know by wednesday or friday at the latest. Luckily for me I rarely work hard enough to feel sick, so hopefully that will work in my favor.

[ShortDave]

Anyone see on ******** Ben Puccio and Jamie Lewis have been posting for awhile how they will both do huge weight cuts to go head to head at 181 for RUM? Puccio is like 205, which yea that's a big cut but doable. Jamie is walking around at 220 right now though. I know he's one yolo mfer but that is just nuts.

They should both bulk to 242.

[zmcdole]

Thoughts on attempt selection between: light/medium/PR and medium/small PR/bigger PR?

Most seem to do the former and open with something you can triple for first attempt, in between what you want and first attempt as second, and then PR. However, I've always wondered how much sense that makes.

Isn't it better to try hit a PR or your goal number on second attempt, meaning if you miss you still have another go at it? Obviously tough to fail a lift and get it afterwards, but with a 1RM it may be a small technical error that fails you.

lifting for a pr on the 2nd because you're ensuring another go at it if you miss is already setting your self up for failure. Use your 2nd to see where you're at and then wisely pick your 3rd based on the outcome of your 3rd. If you lift like that in the gym then doing it in a meet is easier. I'd much rather leave a few lbs on the platform because i was afraid to YOLO it on a 3rd than YOLO it and miss out on 20-40lbs to my total.

OH and your opener should be super easy. A weight you could triple with a rep or two in the tank. I just made a video about this last night.

[michael_xyz]

lifting for a pr on the 2nd because you're ensuring another go at it if you miss is already setting your self up for failure. Use your 2nd to see where you're at and then wisely pick your 3rd based on the outcome of your 3rd. If you lift like that in the gym then doing it in a meet is easier. I'd much rather leave a few lbs on the platform because i was afraid to YOLO it on a 3rd than YOLO it and miss out on 20-40lbs to my total.

OH and your opener should be super easy. A weight you could triple with a rep or two in the tank. I just made a video about this last night.

I know, I watched your video and that made me think.

What I'm saying is: you do your first attempt as last warm-up, and then second attempt as first attempt (hope that makes sense). Because realistically you shouldn't be missing a conventional second attempt. Thus, it means you can do your usual third attempt as second attempt. Then, if you get it just forgo last attempt. But if not, you have a chance to retake it.

Of course you may miss the heavier first attempt now, and that would mess with you a lot, but I still feel like a good second attempt selection for most should be doable. Like I said before, it's like shifting every attempt back one.

I can see both sides of the argument. And many follow the conventional route. It probably is very unlikely to miss a PR and then make it later. But there still must be some value to the option you have at retaking.

[dtaps24]

I must be blind as fuxk...Zahir's 460kg did'nt look as bad as everyone here is saying. It was unquestionably high, but nothing outrageous. While it wouldn't pass in a meet he's not THAT far off depth. I was more concerned with the spotter behind him, def. giving him some support.

Either way, I legit think he's gonna make some records fall and prob beat Dan if he can sink his squat. I do like Dan better, but seeing what Zahir's been doing is crazy.

I think he will break records and beat Dan, but Dan will come back and retake some of the records. That's only if he sinks his squat and if the judging is consistent with that Malan squat BL posted I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Zahir bombs.

[SPFjudge]

Here's my meet video from yesterday's USAPL Georgia State meet. Unfortunately I didn't get to watch Sohmer and Perry Ellis battle it out on Saturday cause I had a wedding to go to.

This was a PR Total and wilks 1829@220 and 506 wilks with squat and deadlift PR's. Came in 2nd place in a really tight 3 person battle. All three of us wilks'd over 500.

[WCbouche]

Here's my meet video from yesterday's USAPL Georgia State meet. Unfortunately I didn't get to watch Sohmer and Perry Ellis battle it out on Saturday cause I had a wedding to go to.

This was a PR Total and wilks 1829@220 and 506 wilks with squat and deadlift PR's. Came in 2nd place in a really tight 3 person battle. All three of us wilks'd over 500.

Looked smooth. You sandbaggin brah?

[SPFjudge]

Looked smooth. You sandbaggin brah?

lol definitely absolutely unequivocally not sandbagging! My body is trashed right now.

[breathinglife]

Anyone see on ******** Ben Puccio and Jamie Lewis have been posting for awhile how they will both do huge weight cuts to go head to head at 181 for RUM? Puccio is like 205, which yea that's a big cut but doable. Jamie is walking around at 220 right now though. I know he's one yolo mfer but that is just nuts.

Yeah, they both cut massive amounts of weight. Didn't know Lewis was that heavy. Wasn't too long ago he was trying to make 165.

[WCbouche]

lol definitely absolutely unequivocally not sandbagging! My body is trashed right now.

But I thought the suits did all of the work... No?














Not srs... Well done.

[ShortDave]

lol definitely absolutely unequivocally not sandbagging! My body is trashed right now.

Nice lifting!


Is the bench handoff guy allowed to jump back in to spot like that? It looked weird and it would have distracted the hell out of me

[FrmrHoss]

Anyone see on ******** Ben Puccio and Jamie Lewis have been posting for awhile how they will both do huge weight cuts to go head to head at 181 for RUM? Puccio is like 205, which yea that's a big cut but doable. Jamie is walking around at 220 right now though. I know he's one yolo mfer but that is just nuts.

Didn't Jamie try to weight cut from 200ish to 165 last year with pretty bad results?