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    Originally Posted by zmcdole View Post
    if you're given short notice and you're in the position he was in with dieting, then maybe. I can't see how that atmosphere wouldn't add up to 5% to what you were capable of doing normally. SRS.
    Well the one thing that I know messed with either Tee Cummins or Ben Seath was that they wanted you to take the entire hour to lift. So your warmups are slow and rest between sets is not what you are use to.

    ....even that isn't too bad....but let's not have to have an adult conversation here.

    Originally Posted by Jeramey8 View Post
    That sounds about right number wise. I was trying to go off memory, I didn't pay attention.
    Yeah, he may not have hit 705 now that I think about it, but when he was shaking really bad with 585, you could see it wasn't his day.
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    Originally Posted by thom2355 View Post
    Well the one thing that I know messed with either Tee Cummins or Ben Seath was that they wanted you to take the entire hour to lift. So your warmups are slow and rest between sets is not what you are use to.

    ....even that isn't too bad....but let's not have to have an adult conversation here.



    Yeah, he may not have hit 705 now that I think about it, but when he was shaking really bad with 585, you could see it wasn't his day.
    Yeah it was a rough day for him.

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    Whom? I live in Madison.
    Can't remember his name to be honest. He went to U of Wisconsin and then was in the Military. He said his buddy owns Madtown Fitness
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    so whats the consensus of speed work here? i know most conjugate guys swear by it, and ive used it in my training

    http://jtsstrength.com/articles/2013...k-doesnt-work/

    he defines speed work as anything less than a 7 RPE, but even with a submaximal load all my sets feel like RPE 10 because im so focused on accelerating the bar

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    Originally Posted by Jeramey8 View Post
    Yeah it was a rough day for him.

    Were you there?
    Oh yeah. Right on the fence.
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    Originally Posted by UberAlles View Post
    so whats the consensus of speed work here? i know most conjugate guys swear by it, and ive used it in my training

    http://jtsstrength.com/articles/2013...k-doesnt-work/

    he defines speed work as anything less than a 7 RPE, but even with a submaximal load all my sets feel like RPE 10 because im so focused on accelerating the bar
    I like it as a substitute for heavy work on some sort of rotation sort of like with the cube method. I use it more as a break than anything.
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    Originally Posted by UberAlles View Post
    so whats the consensus of speed work here? i know most conjugate guys swear by it, and ive used it in my training

    http://jtsstrength.com/articles/2013...k-doesnt-work/

    he defines speed work as anything less than a 7 RPE, but even with a submaximal load all my sets feel like RPE 10 because im so focused on accelerating the bar
    I don't know what everyone else thinks. I used to subscribe to everything Mike T said, but the last 16 weeks or so I have included a lot of @7 work with 1-3 reps, and I am doing pretty well with it. It's quite a bit heavier than the old Westside articles (I think x3@7 for me is about 82-84% as opposed to 50% to 70%), but not his @8 minimum.

    Also, I think that the reason speed work is so effective for multiply guys, is that they are using 50% to 70% of a multi-ply + briefs + wraps or shirted max with straps down or briefs only or with a sling shot, so the intensity is quite a bit higher with that considered. Maybe I've misread the method they use, but it doesn't seem to be as "light and speedy" as it's made to sound.

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    Originally Posted by UberAlles View Post
    so whats the consensus of speed work here? i know most conjugate guys swear by it, and ive used it in my training

    http://jtsstrength.com/articles/2013...k-doesnt-work/

    he defines speed work as anything less than a 7 RPE, but even with a submaximal load all my sets feel like RPE 10 because im so focused on accelerating the bar
    Speed work for raw athletes can be useful

    However you need to differentiate as percentages for speed work with raw athletes are VERY different than what traditional (geared) westside workouts would dictate.

    1-3 reps at anything 70-80% imo is a great place to work on speed strength.
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    Originally Posted by CROMAGS1985 View Post
    I have always found Elite's customer service to be outstanding and I would use them more if shipping to Canada didn't literally double the amount of my order.
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    Originally Posted by JohnnyRingo350 View Post
    Dan Green seems to grind out triples on stuff that looks like it's almost his max better than anyone.

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    Originally Posted by brudman View Post
    Dan Green seems to grind out triples on stuff that looks like it's almost his max better than anyone.
    It's crazy how sometimes he looks on the verge of collapsing and yet go for 1 more rep that looks easier than the previous one.
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    I love speed work

    I apply it to all of my lifts but find it particularly useful for deadlift
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    Can't remember his name to be honest. He went to U of Wisconsin and then was in the Military. He said his buddy owns Madtown Fitness
    Ya, Dan owns madtown, I still need to get over there someday and check it out and get a workout in.
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    So Elite gave me the refund, which is awesome.

    Are SBD's worth getting if I already have Rehbands? I will say a light wrap gives me zero knee pain vs slight knee pain no matter what happens with Rehbands (dunno how much more supportive/tight SBD's are than Rehbands). If I can get the same carryover and knee-pain-relief with SBD's, then I'll grab a pair.
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    Originally Posted by arn710 View Post
    I love speed work

    I apply it to all of my lifts but find it particularly useful for deadlift
    I used to pull slow as hell on everything but probably around a little over a year ago I started consciously pulling all my warmups as fast as possible (like speed work) like the lillebridges, rubish and hickson all recommend, and it's a night and day difference. Everyone tells me how explosive of a puller I am now which I never thought I'd hear.

    Might not be speed work in the traditional sense but I would recommend it to anyone.
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    Are we all going to ignore the topic of Green's immensely developed quads?
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    Are we all going to ignore the topic of Green's immensely developed quads?
    No instead we will discuss how Pozdeev's are small................
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    Originally Posted by Jeramey8 View Post
    Are we all going to ignore the topic of Green's immensely developed quads?
    They are huge, and probably make his wee wee look tiny.



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    Originally Posted by whitessp View Post
    So Elite gave me the refund, which is awesome.

    Are SBD's worth getting if I already have Rehbands? I will say a light wrap gives me zero knee pain vs slight knee pain no matter what happens with Rehbands (dunno how much more supportive/tight SBD's are than Rehbands). If I can get the same carryover and knee-pain-relief with SBD's, then I'll grab a pair.
    Yeah I'd say they are worth it. Don't have to wrap between sets, even if it just a snug wrap, it still takes time. I really like my SBDs.

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    Originally Posted by CooCooCaChoo View Post
    Anyone have any sleeping aids they like to use? Tried melatonin before with mixed results, but the past week or so it seems like I'll wake up at 4 AM and just never go back to sleep.
    I just started taking zma again. Past two nights have been significantly better sleep for me
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    I used to pull slow as hell on everything but probably around a little over a year ago I started consciously pulling all my warmups as fast as possible (like speed work) like the lillebridges, rubish and hickson all recommend, and it's a night and day difference. Everyone tells me how explosive of a puller I am now which I never thought I'd hear.

    Might not be speed work in the traditional sense but I would recommend it to anyone.
    It started for me when I was coming back from surgery last year. I couldn't pull heavy so I just worked on technique and speed for 6 weeks or so. I PR'd the first time I tried a heavy pull after that

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    Originally Posted by CooCooCaChoo View Post
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    Originally Posted by CooCooCaChoo View Post
    Anyone have any sleeping aids they like to use? Tried melatonin before with mixed results, but the past week or so it seems like I'll wake up at 4 AM and just never go back to sleep.
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