Foods to Stay Away From

[Mrpb]

Nitrates and Nitrites

Did you mean except vegetables?

[Domicron]

oatmeal, because it's disgusting.

[ErikTheElectric]

oatmeal, because it's disgusting.

uWotm8?

[Domicron]

uWotm8?

also eggplant.

both make me literally gag. no one should eat them.

[mmaoz]

hydrogenated oils
canola oil
HFCS
mono and diglycerides
MSG
Nitrates and Nitrites
BHA and BHT

what's wrong with canola oil?

[Mrpb]

what's wrong with canola oil?

Pretty high on omega 6. Reducing omega 6 intake is usually a good idea.

Not sure about the nitrates though, as they are found a lot in vegetables.

[nicholina]

Generally, stay away from things you can't pronounce!

When I learn to pronounce it, can I eat it?
What if I can pronounce it but its not paleo??

[icafe]

sardines

Wot!? I eat sardines daily. Awier us.

[Connor1226]

I think that you are an adult. This means that you are more than capable of reading and researching about proper health and nutrition. You need to figure this out on your own.
It isn't a very smart idea to #1 expect everyone to do your homework for you or #2 honestly trust everyone to give you valid information. You'll find that most people make a lot of **** up, or they repeat BS they heard from someone else.

You need to figure out what eating healthy means, then define your own ramifications for your own life, then follow them.
You shouldn't be asking people here to define how you should live your life. Because you will find, nearly everyone here will pick fights over what they feel is healthy or not.
There is no one standard nor one philosophy.

[nicholina]

Wot!? I eat sardines daily. Awier us.

therye so good

[shesprints]

is roundys fat free plain greek yogurt ok? fiber one 100% whole wheat bread?

Why do you need extra fiber in your bread? Eat some vegetables with your sandwich, problem solved. More micros, too.

Fat free yogurt isn't gonna kill you. Fat-free dairy just isn't as nutritious. Lots of micros in the fat, plus that helps with absorption, plus satiety. Do whatever you want.


Eta: I LOVE sardines. Calcium! So much calcium, so much omega-3s. I put them in sushi with avocado or in tomato sauce with pasta.

[x-ray vision]

Pretty high on omega 6. Reducing omega 6 intake is usually a good idea..

Not necessarily.

http://www.nsca.com/uploadedfiles/ns...ook/aragon.pdf (See pages 35-40.)

[Domicron]

ITT no one is ever allowed to eat Chinese food again, and then i go out of business

[MadCatLady]

Margarine is pretty nasty stuff but I guess it's not gonna kill you.

Me, I stay away from Brussels sprouts. Taste like earwax.

[viccles007]

[QUOTE=shesprints;1270231351]Why do you need extra fiber in your bread? Eat some vegetables with your sandwich, problem solved. More micros, too.

Fat free yogurt isn't gonna kill you. Fat-free dairy just isn't as nutritious. Lots of micros in the fat, plus that helps with absorption, plus satiety. Do whatever you want.

Really? I compared Jalna no fat and organic (which is a nice plain greek yoghurt available in oz) and it seems like the fat free has more calcium? Pretty much on par everywhere else. Maybe 30 cal more in the full fat and I'd say it tastes nicer! So I'm a bit undecided. (Sorry for hijacking thread).

[Domicron]

Why do you need extra fiber in your bread?

i eat high fiber bread because i don't really notice much difference in flavor between store bought sliced wheat bread and i don't particularly like the limp texture of white bread, and vegetables get gross after a few days in the fridge.plus the extra fiber doesn't hurt.

[jasonv]

I think that you are an adult. This means that you are more than capable of reading and researching about proper health and nutrition. You need to figure this out on your own.
It isn't a very smart idea to #1 expect everyone to do your homework for you or #2 honestly trust everyone to give you valid information. You'll find that most people make a lot of **** up, or they repeat BS they heard from someone else.

You need to figure out what eating healthy means, then define your own ramifications for your own life, then follow them.
You shouldn't be asking people here to define how you should live your life. Because you will find, nearly everyone here will pick fights over what they feel is healthy or not.
There is no one standard nor one philosophy.

Every stupid and incorrect best-selling book on nutrition has typically been really thick and full of citations...

[SouthDakotaBrah]

Why do you need extra fiber in your bread? Eat some vegetables with your sandwich, problem solved. More micros, too.

Fat free yogurt isn't gonna kill you. Fat-free dairy just isn't as nutritious. Lots of micros in the fat, plus that helps with absorption, plus satiety. Do whatever you want.


Eta: I LOVE sardines. Calcium! So much calcium, so much omega-3s. I put them in sushi with avocado or in tomato sauce with pasta.

Where do you even get non fat-free greek yogurt? I know it exists, but I've never seen it in grocery stores here in the US. Unless it's only at those overpriced health food stores or something.

[bambam601]

Where do you even get non fat-free greek yogurt? I know it exists, but I've never seen it in grocery stores here in the US. Unless it's only at those overpriced health food stores or something.

always at wally world for me.

[SouthDakotaBrah]

always at wally world for me.

I know, that's usually what I get, but I mean the greek yogurt that isn't fat free, like this stuff

[bambam601]

I know, that's usually what I get, but I mean the greek yogurt that isn't fat free, like this stuff

ahhh, misread your comment.
that's right there next to it too. never touch the stuff cuz it's like $8 for worse macros than the fat free.

[gainleanmuscle]

Why do you need extra fiber in your bread? Eat some vegetables with your sandwich, problem solved. More micros, too.

Fat free yogurt isn't gonna kill you. Fat-free dairy just isn't as nutritious. Lots of micros in the fat, plus that helps with absorption, plus satiety. Do whatever you want.


Eta: I LOVE sardines. Calcium! So much calcium, so much omega-3s. I put them in sushi with avocado or in tomato sauce with pasta.

it just so happens that i like the way that brand tastes lol i like a soft textured whole grain bread so thats why i've been buying that one lately. do u know of any brands that fit the bill? love the plain greek yogurt, also i drink organic 2% milk.

[Hemogoblin]

what's wrong with canola oil?

If it matters to you, unless it's organic, it's a GMO crop.

Incidentally, the lipid profile of canola is pretty damn close to olive oil.

[Hemogoblin]

I LOVE sardines. Calcium! So much calcium, so much omega-3s. I put them in sushi with avocado or in tomato sauce with pasta.

Any other ideas on how to eat them? I would love to eat them, but simply can't get them into my mouth. Makes me gag just looking at them. It's my one food kryptonite OK, one OF them.

[determined4000]

what's wrong with canola oil?

FYI
Answer me this: Where does olive oil come from? Olives, right. Coconut oil? Coconuts, right.
And we make them by...pressing the olive/coconut and collecting the liquid oil. Simple.

Canola...errr...well there is no such thing as the canola. It was an engineered plant created by Canada -->genetically modified. Then they use high-temperature mechanical pressing and a solvent extract, hexane, to get an oil. Hexane remains in the oil even after filtration. Then the "oil" is bleached, deoderized, degummed, and refined, at very high temperatures. Because of this the Omega-3 content in the oil is changed, and can cause the trans fat level to rise up to 40 percent.
SO a product can say NO TRANS fat or not have hydrogenated oil, but if it has canola, it has trans fat.

[ErikTheElectric]

FYI
Answer me this: Where does olive oil come from? Olives, right. Coconut oil? Coconuts, right.
And we make them by...pressing the olive/coconut and collecting the liquid oil. Simple.

Canola...errr...well there is no such thing as the canola. It was an engineered plant created by Canada -->genetically modified. Then they use high-temperature mechanical pressing and a solvent extract, hexane, to get an oil. Hexane remains in the oil even after filtration. Then the "oil" is bleached, deoderized, degummed, and refined, at very high temperatures. Because of this the Omega-3 content in the oil is changed, and can cause the trans fat level to rise up to 40 percent.
SO a product can say NO TRANS fat or not have hydrogenated oil, but if it has canola, it has trans fat.

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[determined4000]

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was answering a question

[Caezar07]

Industrialized trans fat

Excessive mercury

Excessive fructose

Any foods that you are sensitive/intolerance to

^^^these

hydrogenated oils
canola oil
HFCS
mono and diglycerides
MSG
Nitrates and Nitrites
BHA and BHT

^^^possibly most if not all of these

There are very few foods that an active individual at a healthy weight would need to stay away from in order to maintain health or body composition. I feel that this is one of those "do some research, and make up your own mind" type of things. Bar mercury and trans fat, the evidence for or against some particular processed or type of food may or may not be strong enough to convince you to avoid it. I'd say that the things you eat most, buy them minimally processed, but I wouldn't worry too much about ruling specific things out of your diet. Rather than worrying about what needs to be ruled out of your diet, think about the things that you need to include and focus your energy on that.

So much attention in the past was paid to saturated fats, salt, trans fats, and now sugar, but we haven't done sufficient studies on the things we chose to replace these things. We are left with sugar free ice cream full of aspartame, 98% fat free turkey full of nitrates, low sodium canned soup full of MSG, peanut butter full of canola oil, and strawberry jam full of high fructose corn syrup. A cautious person would avoid most if not all of the things in the two lists above.

[jd2967]

Eta: I LOVE sardines. Calcium! So much calcium, so much omega-3s. I put them in sushi with avocado or in tomato sauce with pasta.

Give me a six pack of a decent beer and six tins of sardines in mustard sauce and I will go to town.

[shesprints]

Re: fat free dairy, calcium is not the only micronutrient present in dairy. Vitamins A, D, E, and K are all fat-soluble and important for health. You can read about the interplay of magnesium, vitamin D, and calcium absorption with vitamin K2.

So. There's that. I also don't see why someone said fat-free yogurt has, quote, "better macros." To fit MY macros of approximately 100g protein, 400g carbs, and 70g fat, something made of nearly pure protein is quite a poor choice and might displace other things I need, without providing me with vitamins I need to prevent another stress fracture.

As for sardines, you can look up recipes. I recommend searching specifically for Sicilian recipes. My favorite is to cook sardines (you can buy fresh, or use canned) in a plain old tomato sauce with basil (olives and capers optional, onions a good idea) and add it to pasta or pizza. I also put them in rice balls wrapped in nori with some avocado and soy sauce. I also like them marinated with thinly-sliced onions and lemon and/or vinegar and then eaten on a salad. They actually have a lot more FLAVOR than tuna. I'll eat canned sardines... canned tuna I really won't touch anymore unless it's oil-packed. The fat in sardines keeps the meat very tender, whereas tuna is like this tough chunk.



Re: high fiber bread, I would argue that too much fiber DOES hurt. It inhibits nutrient absorption and can result in bloating, dehydration, and electrolyte imbalance--very bad things for workout quality and quality of life.
I can't recommend a brand of bread because I eat bread from local bakeries, buying a loaf every week or so (usually white sourdough--come at me bro). You just try telling me fresh bakery bread doesn't taste as good as Fiber One. Just you try. I won't touch most processed plastic-bag bread in stores. Additives, preservations, HFCS, cellulose, no thanks. And Ezekiel bread or whatever, meh, it's fine but not delicious to me so it's a fallback. But I guess Ezekiel bread is OK. A little high in fiber for a preworkout if you do high-impact exercise.