the price you have to pay to live in the best country in the world.
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07-15-2014, 09:54 AM #91
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07-15-2014, 09:56 AM #92
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07-15-2014, 09:57 AM #93
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Yeah I thought that might be the case. I haven't been to a doctor in about 5 years, but I broke my hand punching a heavy bag at a funny angle and they consulted me, referred me to the hospital, did an x ray, put a splint on there, and booked a follow up. I knew it would heal ok, would that be costly for brahs with insurance there?
My ex gf had a doctors appointment every other week, upset stomach- doctor, headache- doctor. She'd get a shock over there.-Always pick 2 Crew
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07-15-2014, 09:58 AM #94
I got jumped once walking along the sidewalk at a party and had a pretty bad cut on my scalp...there was a cop near that saw and came over but the dudes had already left by the time he got there. He called an ambulance (i wasn't badly injured) and i thought nothing of it...i had been drinking so i was bleeding a lot and they said i needed stitches right away so who was i to argue. Well that ambulance ride alone cost me 2000 dollars, not to mention the stitches and oh yeah....the ticket the cop gave me for having an open container on the sidewalk (after getting jumped by some random *******s from the football team). I guess nailing me for a can of budweiser was easier than going after the people who had just assaulted me.
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07-15-2014, 09:58 AM #95
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07-15-2014, 09:58 AM #96
Yes and no.
The working poor and middle class get absolutely savaged by the day-to-day costs of normal procedures. No question.
Alas, if you're in a life and death situation, or are suffering from some complex illness, literally better than 99/100 of the best doctors in the world- universally- are in the United States.
Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic, et al are simply unrivaled anywhere in the world by some margin.
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07-15-2014, 09:58 AM #97
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07-15-2014, 09:59 AM #98
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07-15-2014, 10:00 AM #99
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07-15-2014, 10:01 AM #100
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07-15-2014, 10:02 AM #101
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07-15-2014, 10:02 AM #102
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07-15-2014, 10:03 AM #103
I think the American health care system is consistently ranked among the worst in developed countries. UK is amongst the best.
They spend one of the highest amounts per capita on health care and education and have the worst of both. It's the American way.
I pay ~$70/mo for medical coverage. It's $0 if your income is < $22k or something. And I never have to worry about this nonsense again. Full potato.
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07-15-2014, 10:04 AM #104
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07-15-2014, 10:05 AM #105
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07-15-2014, 10:06 AM #106
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07-15-2014, 10:07 AM #107
Insurance companies need to make a profit, as do the privately run hospitals, which all gets tacked on to your bill. Since you have numerous insurance companies, none of them have fully diversified risk or enough scale to charge a lower rate, so you're paying more to cover those inefficiencies as well.
The end result is a system that is very expensive and ineffective.
US has one of the worst health care systems amongst developed countries, and they pay the most for it. Nothing to be proud of.
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07-15-2014, 10:07 AM #108
Well lets look at a country with great healthcare - Denmark - and their tax rates: over 50% tax bracket starting at like 70k plus, 8% payroll tax, 25% VAT. no thanks, joffrey the viking.
England 40% starting at 32k pounds right?
everyone else right there or higher?
you guys see the trend right? better government services you pay it in taxes. nothing is free.Stern Crew
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07-15-2014, 10:09 AM #109
So do we.
I'm savage enough to be fine w/ truly private healthcare. Fck safety nets, abusing kunts.
Thing is though, even when Republicans ran chit they didn't have the heart for truly private medicine. It was always some variant of socialized medicine it was just called something else.
Obamacare is hugely flawed but if we were to drop the Republican AND DEM approach to healthcare and make it truly socialized medicine, it would be better than it's even been in 'Merica by some distance.
imo
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07-15-2014, 10:13 AM #110
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07-15-2014, 10:13 AM #111
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07-15-2014, 10:15 AM #112
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07-15-2014, 10:16 AM #113
Nobody envies the U.S. In fact, the U.S is viewed globally as the model of what NOT to do for an effective health care system.
As much as people hated the idea of "socialized medicine" and "Obamacare" (republicans would love to use the 'Obamacare' terminology to try and associate this program 100% with Obama as a political move)... 3/4 of people or more in surveys have said they are happy with their current level of coverage and service, which is higher than before.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...fied-obamacare
Republicans are no longer referring to this as 'Obamacare' because of it's success, and are now just calling it the "Affordable care act". They even shut up about this as a political point because they know nobody wants to give up their coverage now.
It's funny how you have more success when you try to copy the rest of the developed world. It's even funnier that you still managed to fuk it up.
Baby steps to civilization, baby steps..
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07-15-2014, 10:17 AM #114
^^^^^
Didn't say US had the best system, I said they has the best service
Thousands of Canadians coming to America for higher quality health care service and no 20 week waiting periods
http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/11/re...-care-in-2011/
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uploa...-care-2012.pdf
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07-15-2014, 10:19 AM #115
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07-15-2014, 10:21 AM #116
Those would be the people with $$$ or an amazing extended benefits plan that would cover treatment in the U.S.
If anything, that's another nail in the coffin of your country's health care system.
How does it feel that you could be needing help, but the foreigner with deeper pockets can get treated before you? LOL. Profits before people.
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07-15-2014, 10:22 AM #117
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07-15-2014, 10:22 AM #118
Because its not "free" and Obamacare costs much more than insurances provided through employment. Its still hardworking and contributing people paying for the lazy, illegal and stupid.
Medicare has fuked the system the last decade +. ER abuse from those on welfare and the fact that hospitals cannot turn away anyone. Regardless if you can pay the bill or even are a legal citizen, you still get care provided and never have to pay the bill.Benes
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07-15-2014, 10:27 AM #119
You said there was nothing to envy, there's clearly something to envy when people in your country are leaving for the US cause your health care service sucks balls
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uploa...-care-2012.pdf
Idk that feel I have insurance, how does it feel to wait 20 weeks before you see a disgruntled doctor?
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07-15-2014, 10:30 AM #120
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