Reporter suspended for Real Talk

[KeepItMoving]

After another neighborhood shooting, a reporter covering the story interjects his position regarding one of the main, root causes for the violence. (At about the 2 minute mark) He has been suspended for offering his politically incorrect position. [How about the comments offered by the shooter's wife...]

[x-trainer ben]

The corporate news business is all about profits and "numbers" or viewers so releasing this reporter is probably the result of fear. The fear that the stations numbers will plummet as a result of his personal remarks. But you know this already!


From the R+P section:
FL Police Dept Somehow Manages to Hire Three Klan Members



A Florida police department is seriously wondering where they went wrong after they learned last week that two of their officers were allegedly members of the Ku Klux Klan — especially since, five years ago, they had to fire another officer for being a KKK recruiter. (That is three Klansmen too many for an organization.)

The Fruitland Park police department received evidence from the FBI alleging that two of their own, Deputy Chief David Borst and Officer George Hunnewell, were secretly Klansmen. Though it’s technically not illegal for them to associate with the Klan (despite its classification as a hate group by the FBI), the conduct led Chief Terry Isaacs to investigate. Borst resigned of his own volition, but denied that he was a secret Klansman. (Hunnewell was fired for other performance issues.)

In a statement to the Orlando Sentinel, Isaacs said that the department was upset at the accusations. “The last thing I was expecting to hear in the year 2014 was for a professional law-enforcement officer to be a member of a subversive organization,” he told them.

Which is funny, because in 2009, the Fruitland Park police department had the exact same problem:

One Klan member in your police organization is bad. Two Klan members is probably worse. But discovering that your police organization’s hired three Klan members? You might as well bury your head in shame. Maybe in a white bag, to show your humility — waaaait.

Not an excuse here ^^^^ but not every person is perfect.

[Brackneyc]

After another neighborhood shooting, a reporter covering the story interjects his position regarding one of the main, root causes for the violence. (At about the 2 minute mark) He has been suspended for offering his politically incorrect position. [How about the comments offered by the shooter's wife...]

He likely got suspended because what he said was fcking stupid. It wasn't politically incorrect at all, it was asinine. Calling a fat guy fat to his face, is politically incorrect. What the "reporter" did was assign cause and affect to a situation where clearly that isn't the case.

[beachguy498]

At any rate, most of what we do see in the news is so scrubbed and sanitized its hardly worth watching.

[SP1966]

What the "reporter" did was assign cause and affect to a situation where clearly that isn't the case.

If it's so clear could you share with us what makes it so?

[Brackneyc]

If it's so clear could you share with us what makes it so?

He suggested that the "cause" of the problem is young black men growing up without fathers. That's his opinion. Far as I know, there is no scientific evidence to support this claim.

[Oceanside]

He suggested that the "cause" of the problem is young black men growing up without fathers. That's his opinion. Far as I know, there is no scientific evidence to support this claim.

I'll go one step further and say the reporter was Overcompensating his own Prejudice by trying to make excuse's for this lowlife.....


he's a white man asking a black security guard if he had a permit to carry a weapon....


if that don't tip you off you're an idiot !

[GuyJin]

Below is Bergin's comment.

“We were besieged, flooded with calls from police officers furious that we would give media coverage to the life of a cop killer. It’s understandable. We decided to air it because it’s important to shine a light on the anti-cop mentality that has so contaminated America’s inner cities. This same, sick, perverse line of thinking is evident from Jersey City, to Newark and Patterson to Trenton.”

“It has made the police officer’s job impossible and it has got to stop. The underlying cause of all of this, of course: young black men growing up without fathers. Unfortunately, no one in the news media has the courage to touch that subject.”

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In this, he's making a generalization that all black men growing up without fathers is going to lead to violence and cop shootings and what have you. It may very well be true although I haven't seen any definitive stats on it. But it is NOT Bergin's place to make such an assumption, not without proof. I might add that any person growing up without a father regardless of race or ethnicity might be at risk. If there is definitive proof, can someone provide a link, please?

This is no way excuses what the cop-killer did. His wife is no great shakes and has the same anti-police mentality her now dead husband did...but still, it's her opinion, right or wrong. I find her way of thinking reprehensible, but again, she's entitled. I'll just add that a reporter is supposed to report the news, not give his/her personal views unless it's one of those panel shows and they can say what they like.

Just my opinion...

[DuracellBunny]

It's the same phenomenon that has taken over many music and film stars; once they have a large enough audience they believe that because what they say will influence people (it will influence some statistically, simply due to audience sizes) that their opinions have inherent value/validity. What things evolve into is them editorialising on everything and that editorial becoming the story.

Until we stop giving a greater share of the newscycle to what some unqualified non-entiry thinks about a news item than the actual news item itself (look how many celebrity tweets make the news and how often some reality tv "star's" opinion on some subject is quoted), we are just encouraging this type of behaviour.

[SP1966]

He suggested that the "cause" of the problem is young black men growing up without fathers. That's his opinion. Far as I know, there is no scientific evidence to support this claim.

Is there scientific evidence to back your claim that it "clearly isn't the case"? I think a person has to be in serious denial to think any young boy growing up in a tough situation without the strong hand of a caring father is not more likely to make seriously poor life choices. Was it a direct cause and effect in this case? We don't know, but looked at from a wider perspective it damn sure is a problem for many.

[Brackneyc]

Is there scientific evidence to back your claim that it "clearly isn't the case"? I think a person has to be in serious denial to think any young boy growing up in a tough situation without the strong hand of a caring father is not more likely to make seriously poor life choices. Was it a direct cause and effect in this case? We don't know, but looked at from a wider perspective it damn sure is a problem for many.

For some, maybe. Many? IDK.

My "evidence" is the millions of fatherless young men (of various races) who do not commit crimes of any sort. My evidence trumps the reporter 10/10 times.

It may well be a "risk factor" for committing crimes. Unless they can isolate that variable, too many variables to say, with any degree of accuracy.

[DuracellBunny]

For some, maybe. Many? IDK.

My "evidence" is the millions of young men (of various races) who do not commit crimes of any sort. My evidence trumps the reporter 10/10 times.

It may well be a "risk factor" for committing crimes. But hey, what isn't.

On that note -

A person's background may influence the range of choices available to them as well as making them more inclined to make certain choices; but at the end of the day, whatever they did, they had to make the choice to do it when they could have chosen not to.

[SP1966]

On that note -

A person's background may influence the range of choices available to them as well as making them more inclined to make certain choices; but at the end of the day, whatever they did, they had to make the choice to do it when they could have chosen not to.

Personal responsibility, that's racist!

[Oceanside]

Is there scientific evidence to back your claim that it "clearly isn't the case"? I think a person has to be in serious denial to think any young boy growing up in a tough situation without the strong hand of a caring father is not more likely to make seriously poor life choices. Was it a direct cause and effect in this case? We don't know, but looked at from a wider perspective it damn sure is a problem for many.

For some, maybe. Many? IDK.

My "evidence" is the millions of fatherless young men (of various races) who do not commit crimes of any sort. My evidence trumps the reporter 10/10 times.

It may well be a "risk factor" for committing crimes. Unless they can isolate that variable, too many variables to say, with any degree of accuracy.

On that note -

A person's background may influence the range of choices available to them as well as making them more inclined to make certain choices; but at the end of the day, whatever they did, they had to make the choice to do it when they could have chosen not to.

oh for the love of sweet baby jesus... this thread just got gayed up beyond belief !

[DuracellBunny]

oh for the love of sweet baby jesus... this thread just got gayed up beyond belief !

[LMS62]

When a story is being reported, I personally don't give a damn about the reporter's personal opinion, and would prefer they kept it to themselves....even if it is an opinion I agree with.

[KeepItMoving]

I guess my original point was how sad and shocking it is that this reporter got suspended for having the temerity to express an opinion that is critical about the actions of African American fathers absenteeism and how that may positively correlate to negative results within the family structures of African Americans. Agree or disagree with his assertion, I find it chilling that he was suspended for expressing a viewpoint on this subject matter.

[DuracellBunny]

I guess my original point was how sad and shocking it is that this reporter got suspended for having the temerity to express an opinion that is critical about the actions of African American fathers absenteeism and how that may positively correlate to negative results within the family structures of African Americans. Agree or disagree with his assertion, I find it chilling that he was suspended for expressing a viewpoint on this subject matter.

His job is to report, not editorialise. If he was a sociology professor sat in the studio, then fair enough, but the reporter's job is to report the news, not become the news.

[KeepItMoving]

His job is to report, not editorialise. If he was a sociology professor sat in the studio, then fair enough, but the reporter's job is to report the news, not become the news.

Fair enough, but he didn't get a suspension for merely making a comment on the story. He got supended for being critical of African American fathers' absenteeism. (I really don't get how some keep missing this point.)

[usersignup2]

His job is to report, not editorialise. If he was a sociology professor sat in the studio, then fair enough, but the reporter's job is to report the news, not become the news.

this.

if his job is to do an opinion piece ala Andy Rooney, well then he can have some leeway.

[DuracellBunny]

Fair enough, but he didn't get a suspension for merely making a comment on the story. He got supended for being critical of African American fathers' absenteeism. (I really don't get how some keep missing this point.)

I'm not missing it, I just don't care. Whether the opinion was popular, unpopular, PC or non-PC, it wasn't his job to give one and if he had stuck to his job he wouldn't have got in trouble. If you can show me somebody in the same job as him with the same company espousing the opposite opinion and not being suspended then I will agree that it was related to his opinion.

[x-trainer ben]

Fair enough, but he didn't get a suspension for merely making a comment on the story. He got supended for being critical of African American fathers' absenteeism. (I really don't get how some keep missing this point.)

Maybe you would consider foster parenting?????

[KeepItMoving]

Maybe you would consider foster parenting?????

I have my hands full raising my own Family. As Clint Eastwood said: "A Man's got to know his limitations." That said, I do volunteer my time as a Youth Football Coach, and alot of my players have come back to me, years later, to thank me for the influence I had on them during the time I Coached them. I also volunteer on a couple of Boards for helpning military families with post service issues such as PTSD, financial problems, legal issues, rent problems, etc. That said, I'm sure I could/should do more. Thanks.

[x-trainer ben]

I have my hands full raising my own Family. As Clint Eastwood said: "A Man's got to know his limitations." That said, I do volunteer my time as a Youth Football Coach, and alot of my players have come back to me, years later, to thank me for the influence I had on them during the time I Coached them. I also volunteer on a couple of Boards for helpning military families with post service issues such as PTSD, financial problems, legal issues, rent problems, etc. That said, I'm sure I could/should do more. Thanks.

ok cool, well when you feel like updating the Database:

5 Lies We Should Stop Telling About Black Fatherhood
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5491980.html

[trailwkr]

He suggested that the "cause" of the problem is young black men growing up without fathers. That's his opinion. Far as I know, there is no scientific evidence to support this claim.

You are the most clueless dolt I have come across in along time..numerous studies show families without a father in the house leads to more crime, juvenile delinquency, more out of wedlock births and poverty

[trailwkr]

For some, maybe. Many? IDK.

My "evidence" is the millions of fatherless young men (of various races) who do not commit crimes of any sort. My evidence trumps the reporter 10/10 times.

It may well be a "risk factor" for committing crimes. Unless they can isolate that variable, too many variables to say, with any degree of accuracy.

Blacks have a 78% out of wedlock birth rate. Look at the Dep't of Justice stats who are doing the most crimes per capita.

[eomrat]

You are the most clueless dolt I have come across in along time..numerous studies show families without a father in the house leads to more crime, juvenile delinquency, more out of wedlock births and poverty

Only people who lack confidence in their position feel the need to result to insult.

[acrawlingchaos]

Is there scientific evidence to back your claim that it "clearly isn't the case"? I think a person has to be in serious denial to think any young boy growing up in a tough situation without the strong hand of a caring father is not more likely to make seriously poor life choices. Was it a direct cause and effect in this case? We don't know, but looked at from a wider perspective it damn sure is a problem for many.

But specifically blacks? As mentioned by the reported? White fatherless children were not the problem, only black fatherless children.

You are the most clueless dolt I have come across in along time..numerous studies show families without a father in the house leads to more crime, juvenile delinquency, more out of wedlock births and poverty

Blacks have a 78% out of wedlock birth rate. Look at the Dep't of Justice stats who are doing the most crimes per capita.

And unless you're willing to intelligently discuss institutionalized prejudices in the same breath, your post wreaks of racism.






















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^^ OP ^^

[trailwkr]

Only people who lack confidence in their position feel the need to result to insult.

I used the word dolt because he is one. Anyone knows families raised by a single parents have higher rates of crime, poverty and other social problems..
I have no use for clueless liberal idiots.

[trailwkr]

MY point is the black community has it's problems due to the high rate of out of wedlock births and the trailer trash white community has the same problem and growing.

But specifically blacks? As mentioned by the reported? White fatherless children were not the problem, only black fatherless children.



And unless you're willing to intelligently discuss institutionalized prejudices in the same breath, your post wreaks of racism.






















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