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    First dose of ECA stack- WHOA!!

    Decided that I would try an ECA stack (25mg Ephedrine Sulfate, 200mg Caffeine, 81mg Aspirin). Took my first dose around 40 minutes ago and holy crap, my chest feels like a ball of energy. Started to get that pump euphoric feeling in my pecs and arms. How long does it take you to get acclimated? Also, will the stack really make a difference in my cut? Like if I'm losing 1-1.5 pounds a week, will I suddenly start losing 2+ pounds if my diet stays the same. I'm currently at a 500-700 calorie deficit. Thanks.
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    Why are you taking A? You obviously didn't do any worthwhile research before starting the stack (or else you'd know the A is unnecessary), which is always a brilliant idea before starting strong pharmaceuticals. I don't understand people.

    Originally Posted by golfstar22 View Post
    Like if I'm losing 1-1.5 pounds a week, will I suddenly start losing 2+ pounds if my diet stays the same.
    No. Again, did you do ANY research at all before swallowing 300mg of three different drugs?
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    Originally Posted by mavajo View Post
    Why are you taking A? You obviously didn't do any worthwhile research before starting the stack (or else you'd know the A is unnecessary), which is always a brilliant idea before starting strong pharmaceuticals. I don't understand people.
    I actually did a helluvalot of research and yes I saw most people were saying aspirin is essentially worthless. What seeing that I see ECA stack mentioned more often than EC and ECA stack is what most people say, I thought it couldn't hurt. I have a huge bottle of baby aspirin lying around anyway.
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    Originally Posted by golfstar22 View Post
    I actually did a helluvalot of research and yes I saw most people were saying aspirin is essentially worthless. What seeing that I see ECA stack mentioned more often than EC and ECA stack is what most people say, I thought it couldn't hurt. I have a huge bottle of baby aspirin lying around anyway.
    You see "ECA" more often because it was the conventional stack for years and years. It's now well-accepted that the A is unnecessary and an EC stack is sufficient. No one that's kept abreast of current research is still taking ECA.
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    Originally Posted by golfstar22 View Post
    I thought it couldn't hurt. I have a huge bottle of baby aspirin lying around anyway.
    It'll tear a hole in your stomach at the dose they used to recommend. It's one big reason it's no longer used.

    To your question, you'll get used to it after a couple weeks. I found I could never fit in three doses though, that third dose would keep me up all night. I need my nappies.
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    Originally Posted by dmacdonal9 View Post
    It'll tear a hole in your stomach at the dose they used to recommend. It's one big reason it's no longer used.

    To your question, you'll get used to it after a couple weeks. I found I could never fit in three doses though, that third dose would keep me up all night. I need my nappies.
    Good to know, thanks. Wonder if there are any side-effects from prolonged guaifenesin use.
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    Originally Posted by golfstar22 View Post
    Good to know, thanks. Wonder if there are any side-effects from prolonged guaifenesin use.
    Dunno about the long term effects but a quick google search gives:
    Side-effects of guaifenesin include nausea, vomiting, formation of kidney stones,[13] diarrhea, and constipation.[14] Nausea and vomiting can be reduced by taking guaifenesin with meals.[2] The risk of forming kidney stones during prolonged use can be reduced by maintaining good hydration and increasing the pH of urine. Rarely, severe allergic reactions may occur, including a rash or swelling of the lips or face, which may require urgent medical assistance. Mild dry mouth or chapped lips may also occur when taking this medication. Drinking a glass of water is recommended each time one takes guaifenesin.[15]

    Guaifenesin "increases the analgesic effect of paracetamol (acetaminophen) and aspirin, increases the sedative effects of alcohol, tranquilisers, sleep-pills and total anesthetics. Guaifenesin increases the effects of medication that decrease muscle tone. Guaifenesin effects are increased by lithium and magnesium."[16]
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    ive been doing it for about 2mos now. the first week you feel a good rush after that it slowly tapers down, For me right now i notice only really notice it during workouts. I mostly still take it becasue its a suppressant.
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    I'm on my 3rd day just taking 1 pill before workout (12.5mg) and my heart beats pretty good so I am not planning to update the dosage at all. Definitely suppresses appetite for a few hours.
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    Originally Posted by mavajo View Post
    No. Again, did you do ANY research at all before swallowing 300mg of three different drugs?
    FYI, EC Stack has been well documented in showing an increase in metabolic rate as much as 3-5% increase.

    OP; It's not the safest idea to just hop into a maximum dosage on your first shot, very stupid, especially when you don't know what kind of effect's it will have on your body, it's people like you that make **** like Ephedrine hard to obtain.
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    Ease into it and gauge where you are. I started 2 doses/day around week 2 and when I had leg day my chest was getting really tight after squats. I just ended up doing 1 dose on leg day and it ended up being fine. In retrospect 1 dose was probably enough to do what I needed.
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