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    I don't think any Mr. Olympia is overrated, but I've never been impressed by the pics I've seen of Samir Bannout.
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    This is a cool topic. This is all personal opinion but for me dorian and arnold are "overrated"

    Now I recognize how much arnold accomplished and how he transcended the sport. But, and it's a but, he gets absolutely blOwn as if he was then and is still a God.

    Dorian just didn't have a physique that appeals to me as a fan.

    Jay to me is underrated. He was battling against Ronnie in his prime. That's crazy.
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    [QUOTE=RockyTheKid;1260039671]I don't think any Mr. Olympia is overrated, but I've never been impressed by the pics I've seen of Samir Bannout.[/QUOTE


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    Originally Posted by purdey View Post
    Neither of those guys are overrated, especially Dickerson. Although I think Dickerson was the most underwhelming Mr.O.
    they are overrated by actually winning the O. Neither deserved it
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    1997 Dorian should sue Branch warren for copyright infringement.

    The argument can be made that every multiple winning Mr. O did not deserve at least one of their titles.
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    Originally Posted by RockyTheKid View Post
    but I've never been impressed by the pics I've seen of Samir Bannout.






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    We just gonna act like Nasser didnt get robbed by Dorian in 97?
    Nasser should have won that and everyone knows it.. Conditioning and symmetry was amazing in comparison.
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    I was never a fan of Jay's physique because I think he looks the least athletic of the top bodybuilders.

    I think all the Olympia winners from the last 30 years have been reasonable (you could at least make a very good argument for them winning)... except maybe Jay beating Vic in 07.
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    Originally Posted by AtxBrah View Post
    We just gonna act like Nasser didnt get robbed by Dorian in 97?
    Nasser should have won that and everyone knows it.. Conditioning and symmetry was amazing in comparison.
    We just gonna act like Nasser, who had no back, beat Dorian in '97?
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    Originally Posted by RockyTheKid View Post
    We just gonna act like Nasser, who had no back, beat Dorian in '97?
    We just gonna act like having a back is more important than having the best overall physique?
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    Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan View Post
    We just gonna act like having a back is more important than having the best overall physique?
    We just gonna act like having no back wasn't important when you were going up against Dorian?
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    Originally Posted by RockyTheKid View Post
    We just gonna act like having no back wasn't important when you were going up against Dorian?
    Im not gonna act like having no back is not important, against anybody. But i am so gonna act like its not the be all end all of a bodybuilding contest. Therefore, i have to ask again, are we just gonna act like having the overall best physique on stage isn't important?
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    Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan View Post
    Therefore, i have to ask again, are we just gonna act like having the overall best physique on stage isn't important?
    No. Otherwise Shawn Ray would be a 10-time Mr. Olympia.
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    Originally Posted by sexnews View Post






    Samir Bannout was crazy. I've always loved his physique. He had one of the best backs in bodybuilding.
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    Originally Posted by RockyTheKid View Post
    No. Otherwise Shawn Ray would be a 10-time Mr. Olympia.
    Didn't understand this part. Shawn would or wouldn't be a 10 time mr O if we considered the overall best physique on stage important?

    Nevertheless, after many debates the majority believes nasser was robbed in 97, despite having a weaker back then dorian.

    This,



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    Originally Posted by RockyTheKid View Post
    No. Otherwise Shawn Ray would be a 10-time Mr. Olympia.
    Trying to win the award for dumbest statement so far?
    People these days have more reps than brain cells
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    Trying to win the award for dumbest statement so far?
    Why is my statement "dumb"?

    If it was all about "overall, balanced physiques" Shawn Ray would've won the O.
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    Originally Posted by RockyTheKid View Post
    Why is my statement "dumb"?

    If it was all about "overall, balanced physiques" Shawn Ray would've won the O.
    No he wouldn't, overall size is part of it too, and he lacked hard there against someone like dorian.

    It is in fact all about the overall best physique, yes. The one who has the best balance of muscularity, proportion, symmetry, condition, stucture...in most of the mandatories, should win.
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    Originally Posted by RockyTheKid View Post
    Why is my statement "dumb"?
    It's when you have to bring the 'back' argument to defend a Mr. Olympia, that you realize there's a controversy.
    Dorian won all the shots from the back and lost all the ones from the front besides fls (MAYBE), or at least this is what THE MAJORITY of the fans think, hence Dorian was overrated.

    Clear and straightfoward.
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    Originally Posted by RockyTheKid View Post
    Why is my statement "dumb"?

    If it was all about "overall, balanced physiques" Shawn Ray would've won the O.
    If it was about one specific characteristic, Phil wouldn't win the O several times now would he?
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    Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan View Post
    Didn't understand this part. Shawn would or wouldn't be a 10 time mr O if we considered the overall best physique on stage important?

    Nevertheless, after many debates the majority believes nasser was robbed in 97, despite having a weaker back then dorian.

    This,

    [img]http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae271/FFTLX2/Olympia/Dorian8.jpg[img]

    Is not a "no back".
    Having a good back is part of a winning physique, especially when a bodybuilder is going against someone who looked great from the back, like Dorian. Paul Dillet is the best example of this: Mr. Olympia from the front and side, and a weaker back completed with poor conditioning and posing.
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    Originally Posted by spamy View Post
    Having a good back is part of a winning physique, especially when a bodybuilder is going against someone who looked great from the back, like Dorian. Paul Dillet is the best example of this: Mr. Olympia from the front and side, and a weaker back completed with poor conditioning and posing.
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    Originally Posted by spamy View Post
    Having a good back is part of a winning physique, especially when a bodybuilder is going against someone who looked great from the back, like Dorian. Paul Dillet is the best example of this: Mr. Olympia from the front and side, and a weaker back completed with poor conditioning and posing.
    Obviously, quoting myself a few posts above...

    "Im not gonna act like having no back is not important, against anybody. But i am so gonna act like its not the be all end all of a bodybuilding contest."
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    Originally Posted by RockyTheKid View Post
    WINRAR.

    Haney, Dorian, Ronnie and Jay were all known for their backs.
    They were also known by their overall physique...and thats why they were multiple time champions. If you want i can name a sh!tload of people with great backs who never won the O, thus proving what is obvious...takes more then a back, much more.
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    Jay was "known for his back"?


    He had a good back but thats not why he was known. He probably wouldnt be in a top 30 best backs of all time
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