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    Deadlift back rounding.

    I'm sure this has been asked time and time again but searching on my phone is a pain.

    So I'm deadlifting around 395x5 now. My buddy made a comment the other day that I'm rounding my back though and I didn't know if I should just keep going or am I lifting too heavy.

    I can maintain neutral spine up to like 350-365 and then I start rounding. I feel no pain or discomfort when I lift regardless of rounding.

    I read the article on T nation and it basically said it's taking a risk but it's not big deal but I'm interested in hearing other opinions.
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    It just means you are approaching a bottleneck in your strength chain. If you drop the weight below this point and train there, it will resolve itself most likely. If you want to help it along you could do some core work. I recommend cable pullthroughs and ab wheel rollouts.

    It's not worth the risk of routinely training with bad form. You can still make progress using a lighter weight and more sets or reps
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    Drop down to about 325 and gradually work your way back up. Not worth risking it with bad form.
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    Most likely posterior chain and core is not up to par.
    Lower back control/arching:
    - Arching your back will not flatten out your lower back.
    - Lower back is arched by tilting your crotch towards your knees.

    Counterintuitive? 101% so!

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    Therefore, there is no such thing as a medial/lateral delt.
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    Strengthen your back, check your form and build up the deadlift again.
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    Originally Posted by Trauma5951 View Post
    I'm sure this has been asked time and time again but searching on my phone is a pain.

    So I'm deadlifting around 395x5 now. My buddy made a comment the other day that I'm rounding my back though and I didn't know if I should just keep going or am I lifting too heavy.

    I can maintain neutral spine up to like 350-365 and then I start rounding. I feel no pain or discomfort when I lift regardless of rounding.

    I read the article on T nation and it basically said it's taking a risk but it's not big deal but I'm interested in hearing other opinions.
    The article you are referring to is...

    A Strong Case For the Rounded Back Deadlift
    http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_..._back_deadlift

    As the article states there is "Good and Bad Rounding".

    Lower back round falls into the bad, don't do that catagory

    Upper back round is going to occur with most Conventional Deadlifter iwith max effort loads. It is acceptable.

    Tachometer Red Lining

    Think of upper back back rounding as the red zone of a car in racing. Putting it in the red zone area for brief periods means can be done.

    Driving the car in the red zone area for length periods isn't good.

    Occasional upper back round falls into the same catagory.

    Stick to submaximal training with "perfect posture."

    Contreras' prescribe this in the article.

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    Originally Posted by Trauma5951 View Post
    I'm sure this has been asked time and time again but searching on my phone is a pain.

    So I'm deadlifting around 395x5 now. My buddy made a comment the other day that I'm rounding my back though and I didn't know if I should just keep going or am I lifting too heavy.

    I can maintain neutral spine up to like 350-365 and then I start rounding. I feel no pain or discomfort when I lift regardless of rounding.

    I read the article on T nation and it basically said it's taking a risk but it's not big deal but I'm interested in hearing other opinions.
    Upper back rounding is fine. Lower back rounding is not fine.
    My training log: https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=178464441
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    Originally Posted by JOoa0ky View Post
    Most likely posterior chain and core is not up to par.
    Strong Posterior Chain

    Actually, the opposite is usually the case.

    The body's natural tendency (survival mechanism) is to shift the load to the strongest muscle group (posterior chain) to insure you make the lift, survive.

    Bench Press For Reps Contest

    As an example, years ago I was at a Bench Press for reps contest.

    One lifter commented to me that he found it interesting that all the right handed lifters had weak right arms.

    He surmised that because the right arm of each right handed lifter lagged behind when they neared failure.

    Relay Anchor

    What actually occurred the weaker left arm drove up first leaving a heavier load for the right "stronger" arm to complete.

    This phenom is similar to a 400 meter relay race. The anchor position (last sprinter) is traditionally you strongest, fastest sprinter.

    The right arm being the anchor because of it strength.

    That is usually (not always) the case with those who round their upper backs in a Conventional Deadlift.

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    Back rounding is actually a sign that your legs are weak. Your back has to overcompensate by rounding.

    You could either use a wider grip to reduce relative leg involvement, or focus on strengthening your legs.
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