Confused on what to do? I'm Fat but I would like to have muscles and loose the gut

[Dave563]

What are your suggestions?
This is my dilemma I'm experiencing

I'm 5'8 currently weighing in 270lbs
Fat is mostly in the stomach and I have a broad shoulders having me look stocky already.

My goal is to loose weight and look muscular and ripped with muscles.
My Goal is to be 180lbs and cut up ripped

What to do first?
Do I loose the weight with stricly cardio and a low calorie diet plan?
Do I lift weights and do cardio and a low calorie diet plan?
Do I just lift weights hardcore and a low calorie diet plan?

What to do????

[chazzy1864]

1. Fix your diet (go to the nutrition section and read the stickies).
2. Start a lifting routine.
2a. Include some cardio if you'd like.
3. ?????
4. Profit!

[Dave563]

1. Fix your diet (go to the nutrition section and read the stickies).
2. Start a lifting routine.
2a. Include some cardio if you'd like.
3. ?????
4. Profit!

What do you mean Profit?
Do I do cardio is it important to loose weight?

[LadyLore420]

Jim Wendler got more muscle, and stronger muscles, while cutting. His program 5/3/1 offered just the right amount of volume to do while on a calorie deficit. Give it a go.

[thedailydaren]

What do you mean Profit?
Do I do cardio is it important to loose weight?

Profit from the GAINZZZZ.
What do you mean, do you do cardio, he answered it right there! Include it if you want to, you don't have to.

[chazzy1864]

What do you mean Profit?
Do I do cardio is it important to loose weight?

[TJP33]

Learn about nutrition, set your calories with intention of fat loss

My suggestion is when you set your calories- don't jump to a huge Cal deficit- based on your stats, you sound like the perfect candidate for a recomp (gain muscle and burn fat). Start at maintenance for a few weeks see how you respond- if nothing pull some more Calories away or add in some cardio- wait for response and adjust. Keep in mind you want to be able to eat as much as possible and do as little cardio as possible while still making progress.

[hanger1989]

I wouldn't bother with the weights until you've lost most of the fat, as you need to eat a lot for your muscles to grow. So you'll lose the fat quicker if you just focus on cardio, and a clean low calorie diet.

I don't know how long you've been that size for, but you'll find that a lot of your muscles, particularly in your legs are fairly strong as they've been carrying 275 pounds around for a while.

I have a mate that used to be like 290 pounds, and he's now slimmed right down, and his calves are massive.

[adamdavidson47]

1. Fix your diet (go to the nutrition section and read the stickies).
2. Start a lifting routine.
2a. Include some cardio if you'd like.
3. ?????
4. Profit!

3. is Buttsecks isn't it



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[adamdavidson47]

I wouldn't bother with the weights until you've lost most of the fat, as you need to eat a lot for your muscles to grow. So you'll lose the fat quicker if you just focus on cardio, and a clean low calorie diet.

I don't know how long you've been that size for, but you'll find that a lot of your muscles, particularly in your legs are fairly strong as they've been carrying 275 pounds around for a while.

I have a mate that used to be like 290 pounds, and he's now slimmed right down, and his calves are massive.

OP please ignore this steaming pile of ignoramus.

Thanks

[hanger1989]

OP please ignore this steaming pile of ignoramus.

Thanks

It's my opinion, no point in starting lifting when your that size, might aswell focus all your energy into shifting the fat first. He'll lose the fat a lot quicker if he's doing cardio, than he will do lifting weights.

[adamdavidson47]

It's my opinion, no point in starting lifting when your that size, might aswell focus all your energy into shifting the fat first. He'll lose the fat a lot quicker if he's doing cardio, than he will do lifting weights.

Your opinion sucks

[chazzy1864]

It's my opinion, no point in starting lifting when your that size, might aswell focus all your energy into shifting the fat first. He'll lose the fat a lot quicker if he's doing cardio, than he will do lifting weights.

He'll lose weight a lot quicker. He won't lose the fat a lot quicker. If he's smart, he'd start lifting now. TJP covered pretty much everything.


No offense, but your opinion on this matter does suck.

[spicewood1990]

It's my opinion, no point in starting lifting when your that size, might aswell focus all your energy into shifting the fat first. He'll lose the fat a lot quicker if he's doing cardio, than he will do lifting weights.

also you should join a zumba class and keep protons and fats low to assist in fat loss, do lots of sit ups to really burn the fat around the belly and when you decide to start lifting weights stick to bicep curls for the anabolic splash over of the biceps being worked you will gain mass all over



































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[adamdavidson47]

also you should join a zumba class and keep protons and fats low to assist in fat loss, do lots of sit ups to really burn the fat around the belly and when you decide to start lifting weights stick to bicep curls for the anabolic splash over of the biceps being worked you will gain mass all over

I hope this is sarcasm

[doughnut91]

I wouldn't bother with the weights until you've lost most of the fat, as you need to eat a lot for your muscles to grow. So you'll lose the fat quicker if you just focus on cardio, and a clean low calorie diet.

I don't know how long you've been that size for, but you'll find that a lot of your muscles, particularly in your legs are fairly strong as they've been carrying 275 pounds around for a while.

I have a mate that used to be like 290 pounds, and he's now slimmed right down, and his calves are massive.

Cardio will do it.

Weights will do it quicker.

[spicewood1990]

I hope this is sarcasm

fixed

[adamdavidson47]

fixed

Phew!


I still don't know what 3.) is

Chuzz won't tell me

[Dave563]

So my question got answered.
Thanks to all that comment and help me out

So what I got out of this thread is to lift weights stay away from cardio
and eat a less calories.

Any Ideas where I can find strategies for weight lifting and nutriction plans

[Dave563]

As a beggineer where do I start?

[ktothewire]

He'll lose weight a lot quicker. He won't lose the fat a lot quicker. If he's smart, he'd start lifting now. TJP covered pretty much everything.


No offense, but your opinion on this matter does suck.

I agree. hanger1989, do you believe I should take creatine to get bigger gains?

[pondman]

So my question got answered.
Thanks to all that comment and help me out

So what I got out of this thread is to lift weights stay away from cardio
and eat a less calories.

You are going to burn fat when you elevate your sitting heart rate. The reality is that you are 35 and out of shape. I'd concentrate on the muscles from your knees to your pelvis and hips first. That means strengthen, condition, and stretch those muscles. Not only do you want that area strong, you want it flexible again-- like when you were a teenager. You can do it any way that raises your heart rate for at least 30 minutes a day. I'd lift weights and walk 5 miles per day.

[hanger1989]

I agree. hanger1989, do you believe I should take creatine to get bigger gains?

Well at 155 pounds you've gotta try something haha!

[adamdavidson47]

So my question got answered.
Thanks to all that comment and help me out

So what I got out of this thread is to lift weights stay away from cardio
and eat a less calories.

Any Ideas where I can find strategies for weight lifting and nutriction plans

You don't have to "stay away" from cardio. You can do it if you want. You don't have to to lose weight.

[TJP33]

No reason to stay away from cardio- its not bad, it can be a great tool to help fat loss. I said as little as you can do and make progress, not eliminate- even when im gaining I do 3 days 30 min LISS. There are health benefits too (kinda important) plus lets be honest at 270lbs chances are your cardiovascular system could use some help- this will carry over to improve lifting performance if your cardio does need a boost. What we're saying is don't over due it.. start small 3 days 30 min.. when its time to make an adjustment you can increase this or decrease cals- balance them so they can work together for you.
I think there are workout programs in the stickies- I cant give an opinion, I don't know which is better than others, never looked at them.
Read stickies in nutrion thread.. Don't ever fall into the trap of some cookie cutter meal plan. There not personalized to your needs, and can leave you feeling restricted which can result in failure to meet goals and/or poor/dangerous food relationships.
Obviously there is some things you need to read- it may feel overwhelming, taking it bit by bit. Research can only help you, the guys who don't put the effort into read it are the ones who wont succeed even if the information was spoonfed to them.

[chazzy1864]

So my question got answered.
Thanks to all that comment and help me out

So what I got out of this thread is to lift weights stay away from cardio
and eat a less calories.

Any Ideas where I can find strategies for weight lifting and nutriction plans

So what I'm gathering is you don't actually read much of what is said to you.....


Considering no one said to stay away from cardio and I already told you where to go to learn about nutrition.

[Dave563]

No reason to stay away from cardio- its not bad, it can be a great tool to help fat loss. I said as little as you can do and make progress, not eliminate- even when im gaining I do 3 days 30 min LISS. There are health benefits too (kinda important) plus lets be honest at 270lbs chances are your cardiovascular system could use some help- this will carry over to improve lifting performance if your cardio does need a boost. What we're saying is don't over due it.. start small 3 days 30 min.. when its time to make an adjustment you can increase this or decrease cals- balance them so they can work together for you.
I think there are workout programs in the stickies- I cant give an opinion, I don't know which is better than others, never looked at them.
Read stickies in nutrion thread.. Don't ever fall into the trap of some cookie cutter meal plan. There not personalized to your needs, and can leave you feeling restricted which can result in failure to meet goals and/or poor/dangerous food relationships.
Obviously there is some things you need to read- it may feel overwhelming, taking it bit by bit. Research can only help you, the guys who don't put the effort into read it are the ones who wont succeed even if the information was spoonfed to them.

Good inspiration.... Thanks... will do where to find the stickies at?

[Dave563]

So what I'm gathering is you don't actually read much of what is said to you.....


Considering no one said to stay away from cardio and I already told you where to go to learn about nutrition.

I did read the thread, but it was never clear on what to do on Cardio

[LadyLore420]

It's my opinion, no point in starting lifting when your that size, might aswell focus all your energy into shifting the fat first. He'll lose the fat a lot quicker if he's doing cardio, than he will do lifting weights.

You have the right to express your bad opinions along with your bad karma. 3 ticks closer to red.

[kami0000]

What are your suggestions?
This is my dilemma I'm experiencing

I'm 5'8 currently weighing in 270lbs
Fat is mostly in the stomach and I have a broad shoulders having me look stocky already.

My goal is to loose weight and look muscular and ripped with muscles.
My Goal is to be 180lbs and cut up ripped

What to do first?
Do I loose the weight with stricly cardio and a low calorie diet plan?
Do I lift weights and do cardio and a low calorie diet plan?
Do I just lift weights hardcore and a low calorie diet plan?

What to do????

You should first clean up your diet. Monitor your calorie intake and stay away from too much unhealthy fats. I like lifting weights and I don't like doing cardio (too boring for me). You can lift weights hardcore and do some cardio after your workout or on your days off.