Also why are they ashamed of being from Iran? Lmao
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Persian is more ethnicity and Iranian is citizenry
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05-14-2014, 09:33 PM #8
Non Muslim Iranians often identify as Persians. Before Islamic culture overtook whatever the dominant religion was (Zoroastrianism??) Persian culture was as dominant and arguably more dominant than western culture at the time. Along with wars, Islam totally ****ed that up. Hence Persians refusing to identify as Islamic Iranians - people who essentially ****ed up their country.
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05-14-2014, 09:35 PM #9
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Let me aware you OP since I am persian.
Iranian refers to all the nation and people of the country Iran. We have Turkish, Arabic, Armenian, Kurdish, Lurish and etc... that all live in different areas of Iran. We are all Iranians.
Persians are the white Aryan ( located in Big cities such as Tehran, Esfehan, Shiraz etc...) they are referred to as Persian. Kurds and Turks and Lurs all have different languages, religion views, lifestyle and culture. Persian is referred to the modern and true Farsi speaking Iranians.
If its not clear enough tell me to elaborate for you.
They are not Ashamed of Iran. Your logic makes no sense since technically everyone knows Persian = from Iran.
for ex. Ask an Iranian Kurdish where they are from or what they are? they will never ever say Persian. They will either say Iran, Iranian or Kurdish.
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05-14-2014, 09:42 PM #11
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please refrain from giving out false information. Someone referred to as Persian is not related what SO EVER to religion. If you are not Persian or don't know your facts stop giving out bull sh*t.
Iran has a population of something around 90+% muslims. Are you saying only 10% call themselves Persian? think before you speak please. Persian comes from Persia which was the old name of Iran. It's a swag spread around lately in the last 20 years cause of culture and people of western countries. No one used to call themselves Persian like 50 years ago.
And just to be clear, NO ONE says they are Persian in the country Iran itself. Its only people in N/A and other parts of the world. In Iran if you say you are Persian then the religion view might comes in among some people. Persian comes from Persia which people and gov of Iran might think you are Zartosht.
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05-14-2014, 09:49 PM #14
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No because it still has nothing to do with religion. In Iran no one says I am Persian. What I was trying to imply is that even in Iran if you go tell people you are Persian( which is pronounced Parsian in Iran), no one would care nor think you are saying this cause of mullas etc....
Aryan, white looking farsi speaking people are all Persians. Other nations like Kurdish, Turk, Armenian etc.. are not Persian. But we are all referred to as Iranian as they are from my country and we are all brothers.
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05-14-2014, 09:50 PM #17
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There are different types of Persians. Most Persians are Aryan. Aryans are Caucasian by definition, please educate your self.
The Aryan race was a racial grouping commonly used in the period of the late 19th century to the mid 20th century to describe peoples of European and Western Asian heritage. It derives from the idea that the original speakers of the Indo-European languages and their descendants up to the present day constitute a distinctive race or subrace of the larger Caucasian race.
While originally meant simply as a neutral ethno-linguistic classification, from the late 19th century onwards the concept of the Aryan race has been used by proponents of ideologically-motivated racism and white supremacism such as in doctrines of Nazism and neo-Nazism. Aryanism developed as a racial ideology that claimed that the Aryan race was a master race.
Based on this definition many people characterize us similar to Germans but we are not.
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05-14-2014, 09:56 PM #20
Persians are not white.
They were white thousands of years ago but due to invasion of Arabs and Mongols they were raped and conquered and brownized.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is Persian and looks Indian.
Caucasian is an outdated term.
Here in the UK, when under the general census Iranians fall under 'Middle eastern / west Asian' category
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The Persians that try to claim that they are white are originally descended from Turkey, Armenia, and Azerbijan.
Most Persian natives look similar to this. Persian Americans always try to say they come from a white country, but that's a lie. Although, there is a lighter skinned minority. Not sure if they would qualify as white.
Typical Persians, not from more northern countries
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Caucasian is White by definition. You need to educate yourself. Some Indians are also Caucasian. So are some Iranians. Not all are. As I said we have Arabs, Turks etc...
I never once claimed to be European or White as in American. I am Aryan and that is defined as Caucasian. It is like saying French and Italian are all white. No they are both Euro Caucasian Races but french is french and Italian is Italian. I am Aryan and Iranian.
It also depends on where you are from Iran. South/ South West are more towards Arabs. North West and West are Kurdish/Turks. Middle North and North are Aryans. East and South east are towards Arabs/ Darker skin.
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you are retarded if you actually think that. I never claimed once to be White. I said I am Aryan which is characterized by Caucasian. I was filling up an application for other day it said if you are Indian / Arabic etc.. check this. Then it had one for Caucasian or middle eastern heritage (Persian) check this box. I will find the application and upload the pic.
I never once want to be or claim to be white. I am proud of where I am from and I tell everyone I am Persian.
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05-14-2014, 10:08 PM #28
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I think you have a reading comprehension issue.
When did I say Iranians are WHITE or me?
I said Iran has different population that have different races. I am Persian and I am Aryan. Aryans are Caucasian. I dont give a **** if you think I am white or not. Aryans are classified as Caucasian. Its a reality and whether you accept it or not its meaningless to me.
There is not 1 White race. We have American, British, French, Italian etc... do you characterize all of them as WHITE?
no. They might be all Caucasian but its different races.
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