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    Talking How come you guys say Persian women not Iranian?

    Also why are they ashamed of being from Iran? Lmao
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    lol hard at this
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    Persian/Iranian brah checking in. Most Iranians refer to themselves as Persians in an effort to distance themselves from the mullahs who run Iran and to avoid being chastised as a "terrorist". Also Iran used to be Persia and has great history as the Persian Empire.
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    Originally Posted by BeastModeFTW View Post
    Also Iran used to be Persia and has great history as the Persian Empire.
    No hate, but I see Rome as a mighty Empire. The Persians consistently got twerk teamed by the Greeks and Macedonians in countless battles they should have won.
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    If I dated a persian girl would make her dress up like Jasmine from aladdin
    Bunch of slack-jawed miscers around here. This stuff will make you a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like me.
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    Because Persian sounds 10000000 times better than Iranian.
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    Persian is more ethnicity and Iranian is citizenry
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    Non Muslim Iranians often identify as Persians. Before Islamic culture overtook whatever the dominant religion was (Zoroastrianism??) Persian culture was as dominant and arguably more dominant than western culture at the time. Along with wars, Islam totally ****ed that up. Hence Persians refusing to identify as Islamic Iranians - people who essentially ****ed up their country.
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    Let me aware you OP since I am persian.

    Iranian refers to all the nation and people of the country Iran. We have Turkish, Arabic, Armenian, Kurdish, Lurish and etc... that all live in different areas of Iran. We are all Iranians.

    Persians are the white Aryan ( located in Big cities such as Tehran, Esfehan, Shiraz etc...) they are referred to as Persian. Kurds and Turks and Lurs all have different languages, religion views, lifestyle and culture. Persian is referred to the modern and true Farsi speaking Iranians.

    If its not clear enough tell me to elaborate for you.

    They are not Ashamed of Iran. Your logic makes no sense since technically everyone knows Persian = from Iran.

    for ex. Ask an Iranian Kurdish where they are from or what they are? they will never ever say Persian. They will either say Iran, Iranian or Kurdish.
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    Originally Posted by ButterSlice View Post
    Non Muslim Iranians often identify as Persians. Before Islamic culture overtook whatever the dominant religion was (Zoroastrianism??) Persian culture was as dominant and arguably more dominant than western culture at the time. Along with wars, Islam totally ****ed that up. Hence Persians refusing to identify as Islamic Iranians - people who essentially ****ed up their country.
    please refrain from giving out false information. Someone referred to as Persian is not related what SO EVER to religion. If you are not Persian or don't know your facts stop giving out bull sh*t.

    Iran has a population of something around 90+% muslims. Are you saying only 10% call themselves Persian? think before you speak please. Persian comes from Persia which was the old name of Iran. It's a swag spread around lately in the last 20 years cause of culture and people of western countries. No one used to call themselves Persian like 50 years ago.

    And just to be clear, NO ONE says they are Persian in the country Iran itself. Its only people in N/A and other parts of the world. In Iran if you say you are Persian then the religion view might comes in among some people. Persian comes from Persia which people and gov of Iran might think you are Zartosht.
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    Originally Posted by BeastModeFTW View Post
    Persian/Iranian brah checking in. Most Iranians refer to themselves as Persians in an effort to distance themselves from the mullahs who run Iran and to avoid being chastised as a "terrorist". Also Iran used to be Persia and has great history as the Persian Empire.
    Lost to Greek

    Lost to Arabs

    Lost to Mongols

    Yeah Persia was a great 'empire'
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    Originally Posted by deniedyou View Post
    please refrain from giving out false information. Someone referred to as Persian is not related what SO EVER to religion. If you are not Persian or don't know your facts stop giving out bull sh*t.

    Iran has a population of something around 90+% muslims. Are you saying only 10% call themselves Persian? think before you speak please. Persian comes from Persia which was the old name of Iran. It's a swag spread around lately in the last 20 years cause of culture and people of western countries. No one used to call themselves Persian like 50 years ago.

    And just to be clear, NO ONE says they are Persian in the country Iran itself. Its only people in N/A and other parts of the world. In Iran if you say you are Persian then the religion view might comes in among some people. Persian comes from Persia which people and gov of Iran might think you are Zartosht.
    So pretty much what that guy said(?).
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    Originally Posted by Durg View Post
    So pretty much what that guy said(?).
    No because it still has nothing to do with religion. In Iran no one says I am Persian. What I was trying to imply is that even in Iran if you go tell people you are Persian( which is pronounced Parsian in Iran), no one would care nor think you are saying this cause of mullas etc....

    Aryan, white looking farsi speaking people are all Persians. Other nations like Kurdish, Turk, Armenian etc.. are not Persian. But we are all referred to as Iranian as they are from my country and we are all brothers.
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    Originally Posted by deniedyou View Post
    Persians are the white Aryan

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    Persians are not white. White = Europeans
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    My gf is Persian

    She's hot so I don't care what she calls herself
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    Originally Posted by ThatFields View Post
    Persians are not white. White = Europeans
    There are different types of Persians. Most Persians are Aryan. Aryans are Caucasian by definition, please educate your self.


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    Based on this definition many people characterize us similar to Germans but we are not.
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    Originally Posted by deniedyou View Post
    There are different types of Persians. Most Persians are Aryan. Aryans are Caucasian by definition, please educate your self.


    The Aryan race was a racial grouping commonly used in the period of the late 19th century to the mid 20th century to describe peoples of European and Western Asian heritage. It derives from the idea that the original speakers of the Indo-European languages and their descendants up to the present day constitute a distinctive race or subrace of the larger Caucasian race.
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    Based on this definition many people characterize us similar to Germans but we are not.
    Caucasian is not equal to white. Then you have to include Indians and Middle Easterns. You are all Caucasian, but only Europeans are white. Sorry, but its true.
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    Originally Posted by deniedyou View Post
    Aryan, white looking farsi speaking people are all Persians. Other nations like Kurdish, Turk, Armenian etc.. are not Persian. But we are all referred to as Iranian as they are from my country and we are all brothers.
    I thought white looking Iranians are actually of Turkish decent. Didn't genetic studies prove that most modern Iranians/ Persians are actually of Arab blood?
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    Originally Posted by deniedyou View Post
    There are different types of Persians. Most Persians are Aryan. Aryans are Caucasian by definition, please educate your self.
    Persians are not white.

    They were white thousands of years ago but due to invasion of Arabs and Mongols they were raped and conquered and brownized.

    Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is Persian and looks Indian.

    Caucasian is an outdated term.

    Here in the UK, when under the general census Iranians fall under 'Middle eastern / west Asian' category
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    came in expecting pics of persian girls
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    The Persians that try to claim that they are white are originally descended from Turkey, Armenia, and Azerbijan.

    Most Persian natives look similar to this. Persian Americans always try to say they come from a white country, but that's a lie. Although, there is a lighter skinned minority. Not sure if they would qualify as white.

    Typical Persians, not from more northern countries

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    Originally Posted by Jetigen View Post
    I thought white looking Iranians are actually of Turkish decent. Didn't genetic studies prove that most modern Iranians/ Persians are actually of Arab blood?
    This is true. Turks made up the ruling class in Persia for many years. Their influence is still felt in the country
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    always makes me laugh how rustled persians get when this topic comes up, especially the US born ones
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    Caucasian is not equal to white. Then you have to include Indians and Middle Easterns. You are all Caucasian, but only Europeans are white. Sorry, but its true.
    Caucasian is White by definition. You need to educate yourself. Some Indians are also Caucasian. So are some Iranians. Not all are. As I said we have Arabs, Turks etc...

    I never once claimed to be European or White as in American. I am Aryan and that is defined as Caucasian. It is like saying French and Italian are all white. No they are both Euro Caucasian Races but french is french and Italian is Italian. I am Aryan and Iranian.

    It also depends on where you are from Iran. South/ South West are more towards Arabs. North West and West are Kurdish/Turks. Middle North and North are Aryans. East and South east are towards Arabs/ Darker skin.
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    Originally Posted by deniedyou View Post
    Caucasian is White by definition. You need to educate yourself. Some Indians are also Caucasian. So are some Iranians. Not all are. As I said we have Arabs, Turks etc...

    I never once claimed to be European or White as in American. I am Aryan and that is defined as Caucasian. It is like saying French and Italian are all white. No they are both Euro Caucasian Races but french is french and Italian is Italian. I am Aryan and Iranian.

    It also depends on where you are from Iran. South/ South West are more towards Arabs. North West and West are Kurdish/Turks. Middle North and North are Aryans. East and South east are towards Arabs/ Darker skin.
    I will this as white European --- Iranians are not white.
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    Originally Posted by VoteofCloture View Post
    The Persians that try to claim that they are white are originally descended from Turkey, Armenia, and Azerbijan.

    Most Persian natives look similar to this. Persian Americans always try to say they come from a white country, but that's a lie. Although, there is a lighter skinned minority. Not sure if they would qualify as white.

    Typical Persians, not from more northern countries


    you are retarded if you actually think that. I never claimed once to be White. I said I am Aryan which is characterized by Caucasian. I was filling up an application for other day it said if you are Indian / Arabic etc.. check this. Then it had one for Caucasian or middle eastern heritage (Persian) check this box. I will find the application and upload the pic.

    I never once want to be or claim to be white. I am proud of where I am from and I tell everyone I am Persian.
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    I will this as white European --- Iranians are not white.
    I think you have a reading comprehension issue.

    When did I say Iranians are WHITE or me?

    I said Iran has different population that have different races. I am Persian and I am Aryan. Aryans are Caucasian. I dont give a **** if you think I am white or not. Aryans are classified as Caucasian. Its a reality and whether you accept it or not its meaningless to me.

    There is not 1 White race. We have American, British, French, Italian etc... do you characterize all of them as WHITE?

    no. They might be all Caucasian but its different races.
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    Originally Posted by deniedyou View Post
    I think you have a reading comprehension issue.

    When did I say Iranians are WHITE or me?

    I said Iran has different population that have different races. I am Persian and I am Aryan. Aryans are Caucasian. I dont give a **** if you think I am white or not. Aryans are classified as Caucasian. Its a reality and whether you accept it or not its meaningless to me.

    There is not 1 White race. We have American, British, French, Italian etc... do you characterize all of them as WHITE?

    no. They might be all Caucasian but its different races.
    I consider anyone who is of European descent as white. This included Italians, French, Germans, British, etc

    Middle-eastern people are not white.
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    Originally Posted by VoteofCloture View Post
    Caucasian is not equal to white. Then you have to include Indians and Middle Easterns. You are all Caucasian, but only Europeans are white. Sorry, but its true.

    " Caucasian is not equal to white "


    Read a book for once. You are probably the most imbecile human being on this thread.
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