Why is there no agmatine in Pre Jym?

[DasBiceps]

With cm and beet root I don't see the point of adding agmatine. How much pump ingredients do people need to get a pump. Seems excesses how people stack 3-5 different pump ingredients to get a pump.

I definitely agree though i like agmatine for it's other benefits as well.

[jeffie28]

If you are mr jim, you also to defense and support your own products. Not on his side btw. But whatever you feel you like to take, and if you think thats not worth for you, dont bash the products or there is smthing missing in the ingredients. We know that supplements dont gain us 10pounds of muscles over 2.3months. Still belive hardwork and good nutrition and add your choice of supplemens will accelerate your progress

[eatyourspinach]

Curl those 5 lb dumbbells and get a pump

#ballin

[DasBiceps]

#eatyourspinach

[ahawk01]

With cm and beet root I don't see the point of adding agmatine. How much pump ingredients do people need to get a pump. Seems excesses how people stack 3-5 different pump ingredients to get a pump.

Throw in some no explode and some vein... Veins on your pinky will be vascular.

[eatyourspinach]

Throw in some no explode and some vein... Veins on your pinky will be vascular.

So replace a well formulated supplement with two that aren't exactly the pick of the litter.

[iamjeffrey]

So replace a well formulated supplement with two that aren't exactly the pick of the litter.

Omfg I'm dying over here lol

[Synapsin]

All I can say is, the man knows more about supplement science than anyone in here,

hahahaha, that's rich

[xavengedx23]

Dextrose immediately post workout

Science/10

[DasBiceps]

Bull, I can think of 5-10 members just on this forum that run circles around him in science and supplementation.

xHiroko is #1

[Justin93]

So replace a well formulated supplement with two that aren't exactly the pick of the litter.

Lmao

hahahaha, that's rich

I meant Jim knows more about supplement science than anyone that was in this particular discussion, not the entire BB.com forums. That is just MY opinion.

[DasBiceps]

I meant Jim knows more about supplement science than anyone that was in this particular discussion, not the entire BB.com forums. That is just MY opinion.

Again you are wrong and what you are saying that as a fact and not an opinion

[Justin93]

Again you are wrong and what you are saying that as a fact and not an opinion

He has two of the top selling supplements on bodybuilding.com for a reason, that is a fact. And his Shred Jym sold out in 3 or 4 days. I think the guy knows something. Or is it all just "hype" lol.

[DasBiceps]

He has two the top selling supplements on bodybuilding.com for a reason, that is a fact. And his Shred Jym sold out in 3 or 4 days.

Yes because top selling supplements means jym knows supplement science.


I do want to mention i am not bashing his products. I think pre jym is a great pre for sure.

[sloop]

He has two of the top selling supplements on bodybuilding.com for a reason, that is a fact. And his Shred Jym sold out in 3 or 4 days. I think the guy knows something. Or is it all just "hype" lol.

The guy also said there's no reason to cycle off pre jym, ever.

300mg caffeine all the time, no reason to take a break.... Think about it.

What do YOU think about his opinion!

[poison]

He has two of the top selling supplements on bodybuilding.com for a reason, that is a fact. l.

Sure, just not the reason you think. A lot of variables go into that, and how good the product is is one of the least important.

[ChrisLS8]

He has two of the top selling supplements on bodybuilding.com for a reason, that is a fact. And his Shred Jym sold out in 3 or 4 days. I think the guy knows something. Or is it all just "hype" lol.

That means nothing. Example...._________is a best seller and it has a bad profile.

and that can be said for tons of products

[naderqud]

Agmatine? I add that to pre jym, as well as creatine nitrate, and sometimes GMS. The pumps? Let's just say the biggest struggle of my workout is taking off my sweaty shirt.

[naderqud]

That means nothing. Example...._________is a best seller and it has a bad profile.

and that can be said for tons of products

.....Are you saying Jym has a bad profile?

[xxx_jfb_xxx]

.....Are you saying Jym has a bad profile?

I think he's just saying if glutamine and arginine were the top 2 selling products on bb.com, would you still buy a pre with both of them in it.

[DasBiceps]

.....Are you saying Jym has a bad profile?

He is saying that going by the top 50 selling products means absolutely nothing, except for very very few.

So when someone says "its a top seller" basically means the person has no idea what they are saying.

[blokpost]

I've read somewhere that agmatine inhibits only nNOS (in brain) and not inducible NOS, that means it doesn't compete with arginine and citrulline for vasodilation (just my thoughts) and increases pumps. Well I still prefer standard arginine + citrulline to agmatine.

[DasBiceps]

I've read somewhere that agmatine inhibits only nNOS (in brain) and not inducible NOS, that means it doesn't compete with arginine and citrulline for vasodilation (just my thoughts) and increases pumps. Well I still prefer standard arginine + citrulline to agmatine.

Agmatine > arginine


Arginine does not increase NO.

[BenBlue]

Agmatine > arginine


Arginine does not increase NO.

Agreed.

Just read an interesting study on Agmatine. Might be old news for some of you, but apparently it has a strong drug-drug interaction, and is synergistic with basically everything pharmaceutical (Bupropion, alcohol, marijuana, opioidergic drugs). Didn't know this!

[naderqud]

Where did you read this? I wasn't aware. Only knew about the nootropic effects of agmatine and of course the pump!

Agreed.

Just read an interesting study on Agmatine. Might be old news for some of you, but apparently it has a strong drug-drug interaction, and is synergistic with basically everything pharmaceutical (Bupropion, alcohol, marijuana, opioidergic drugs). Didn't know this!

[BenBlue]

Where did you read this? I wasn't aware. Only knew about the nootropic effects of agmatine and of course the pump!

Came across this: http://examine.com/supplements/Agmatine/ Nice lil summary of what the limited studies have actually concluded.

[xxx_jfb_xxx]

Just read an interesting study on Agmatine. Might be old news for some of you, but apparently it has a strong drug-drug interaction, and is synergistic with basically everything pharmaceutical (Bupropion, alcohol, marijuana, opioidergic drugs). Didn't know this!

I've heard it helps with anxiety. I've thought about taking it just for that. Agmatine + Anxiety med would enhance anxiety med? hmm

[eatyourspinach]

Came across this: http://examine.com/supplements/Agmatine/ Nice lil summary of what the limited studies have actually concluded.

Awesome, more examine information.

[DASBUNKER]

Awesome, more examine information.

It's like the wikipedia of ingredients. Shouldn't be used as source on posts, otherwise you get an F and neg.

[eatyourspinach]

It's like the wikipedia of ingredients. Shouldn't be used as source on posts, otherwise you get an F and neg.

Add it to your sticky lol.