The era of great American movies is over (RIP 1998-2008)

[Bro_montana]

There are tons of good movies still being released. You're ignoring talented directors like Paul Thomas Anderson, the Coen brothers, Wes Anderson, and many more.

2013:

Her
12 Years a Slave
Mud
Before Midnight
Inside Llewyn Davis
Dallas Buyers Club
and many more

We agree more than we disagree. Gems exist but they are not mainstream. Pretty much if a movie has a larger then average marketing campaign you can almost be certain it's gonna suck (avatar, TDKR)

[schlitta]

none of those are even remotely classics bruh. Good movies but take any 4 year stretch prior to 2010 and those movies get chit on.

Still a decent number of great movies being made but TV has already surpassed it in quality

You're asking for classics four to one year later. They're called CLASSICS for a reason. Good example, 2001: A Space Odyssey was considered crap back when it was released. Now it is a classic.

[gottalooksharp]

More like 60s - 1994

[Bro_montana]

You're asking for classics four to one year later. They're called CLASSICS for a reason. Good example, 2001: A Space Odyssey was considered crap back when it was released. Now it is a classic.

Inception, gladiator, matrix, 28 days later, saving private ryan, goodwill hunting

I think we know they're classics and they will go down as such. I don't imagine another zombie movie topping 28 days later or another war movie topping SPR. Many have tried and many have failed.

[drove12hours]

Inception, gladiator, matrix, 28 days later, saving private ryan, goodwill hunting

I think we know they're classics and they will go down as such. I don't imagine another zombie movie topping 28 days later or another war movie topping SPR.

u wot m8

[Bro_montana]

u wot m8

Inception is the only questionable one on the list, i'm only talking about the first matrix. 28 days later is the darkest, most realistic, non-corny zombie movie ever made, fact. Not to mention Cillian Murphy is a GOAT actor who is very under-rated. Wish he had more main roles, that dude can fking act.

[GodJJ]

Source Code -2011

[DasWunderBrah]

You're asking for classics four to one year later. They're called CLASSICS for a reason. Good example, 2001: A Space Odyssey was considered crap back when it was released. Now it is a classic.

considered crap by whom? The visuals alone are legendary and it got its respect from critics and audiences in that regard. It's still somewhat a polarizing movie especially to ppl watching it now but no one can deny that visually it's a masterpiece. It's a classic on that merit alone.

Regardless, most movies that are GOAT tier are recognized at the time. The only ones you usually have to wait for are science fiction and maybe horror movies

[xmikeman]

Inception is the only questionable one on the list, i'm only talking about the first matrix. 28 days later is the darkest, most realistic, non-corny zombie movie ever made, fact. Not to mention Cillian Murphy is a GOAT actor who is very under-rated. Wish he had more main roles, that dude can fking act.

28 days later isn't even danny boyle's best film

[schlitta]

Inception, gladiator (14 years), matrix (15 years), 28 days later (12 years), saving private ryan (16 years), goodwill hunting (17 years)

12 years is a good amount of time for a movie to start to be considered a classic

[Bro_montana]

28 days later isn't even danny boyle's best film

It's a classic in its genre. I don't think it will be eclipsed.

[IronRooster2]

Every movie made is in competition with every movie ever made. There will never be a killer-robot from the future chase movie that's better than Terminator 2, because quality is an absence of flaws.

When you get down to it 90 minutes is nothing. A limerick. The medium should go the same way it went in writing - into the extreme niche.

[AndreSoCal]

It's because we are running out of ideas.

[Bro_montana]

12 years is a good amount of time for a movie to start to be considered a classic

Man i'm old. You have a point but at the same time I've been watching those movies over and over again long ago. Replay value is a good indicator of a classic movie. I've seen each of those anywhere from 3-10+ times.

[schlitta]

considered crap by whom? The visuals alone are legendary and it got its respect from critics and audiences in that regard. It's still somewhat a polarizing movie especially to ppl watching it now but no one can deny that visually it's a masterpiece. It's a classic on that merit alone.

Per wikipedia,

Pauline Kael said it was "a monumentally unimaginative movie," and Stanley Kauffmann of The New Republic called it "a film that is so dull, it even dulls our interest in the technical ingenuity for the sake of which Kubrick has allowed it to become dull." Renata Adler of The New York Times wrote that it was "somewhere between hypnotic and immensely boring." Variety's 'Robe' believed the film was a "Big, beautiful, but plodding sci-fi epic … A major achievement in cinematography and special effects, 2001 lacks dramatic appeal to a large degree and only conveys suspense after the halfway mark."

[Fatsaurus]

There are tons of good movies still being released. You're ignoring talented directors like Paul Thomas Anderson, the Coen brothers, Wes Anderson, and many more. Also, lol at the 80's being listed as the golden age of American film. Do you guys even watch movies? You're forgetting the 40's, 50's, 60's, and 70's. Who was Hitchcock or Kubrick?

2013:

Her garbage
12 Years a Slave unimaginative melodrama
Mud haven't seen
Before Midnight personally don't care for that entire series
Inside Llewyn Davis weakest coen brothers movie in memory
Dallas Buyers Club haven't seen yet
Nebraska haven't seen yet
Fruitvale Station pretty good but not exactly a classic
Blue Jasmine nowhere near as good as woody allen's earlier stuff
and many more

in bold

the fact that THIS is what passes for good filmmaking in 2014 illustrates OP's point better than I could have

[Qwertym]

leonardo dicaprio/martin scorsese are still making films worth watching

[BillTheBro]

Theres plenty of good movies coming out all the time, you just aren't looking in the right places


fukin movie hipsters mane

[Bignate65]

Gonna watch a Beautiful mind, will report back

If its the life story of Jason Genova we will have a problem

[RoccoTanno123]

Inception, gladiator, matrix, 28 days later, saving private ryan, goodwill hunting

I think we know they're classics and they will go down as such. I don't imagine another zombie movie topping 28 days later or another war movie topping SPR. Many have tried and many have failed.

good will hunting was 1997. 1997 had a lot of awesome movies. I like 28 days later a lot, but there aren't that many serious, realistic zombie movies.

[Bro_montana]

Theres plenty of good movies coming out all the time, you just aren't looking in the right places


fukin movie hipsters mane

I'll wreck you. Saw Transcendence last night.... great premise, okay first half and then went full retard hollywood second half with navy seals, explosions and the rest. It could have been so much better. I still liked it though, we need more movies like this, it's just they always start good and find ways to go proto-typical hollywood and predictable on everyone so people feel like they got what they came for.

[xmikeman]

in bold

Considering all the movies I've listed have received almost universal acclaim you're opinion is not reflective of what most people think. How was Her a bad movie? Amazing art direction, original, strong acting, great score, and a compelling narrative that hints at the direction society is moving in. If Her is a terrible movie to you then I'd love to see what's great.

[Fatsaurus]

Considering all the movies I've listed have received almost universal acclaim you're opinion is not reflective of what most people think. How was Her a bad movie? Amazing art direction, original, strong acting, great score, and a compelling narrative that hints at the direction society is moving in. If Her is a terrible movie to you then I'd love to see what's great.

what most people think is a form of collective insanity

not to mention that much of the acclaim going around nowadays is bought and paid for in advance

her was actually not terribly made, but it just rustled my jimmies to the point that it undermined my enjoyment of the movie... I usually like spike jonze but this one was just not doing it for me

[DasWunderBrah]

Per wikipedia,

And yet Kubrick still won the Oscar for Best visuals and was nominated for screenplay and director. So hardly the critical failing you are making it out to be.

[drove12hours]

considered crap by whom? The visuals alone are legendary and it got its respect from critics and audiences in that regard. It's still somewhat a polarizing movie especially to ppl watching it now but no one can deny that visually it's a masterpiece. It's a classic on that merit alone.

Regardless, most movies that are GOAT tier are recognized at the time. The only ones you usually have to wait for are science fiction and maybe horror movies

Vertigo flopped at the box office and received mixed reviews from critics when it was first released. It is now considered the best film of all time.

[Bro_montana]

what most people think is a form of collective insanity

not to mention that much of the acclaim going around nowadays is bought and paid for in advance

her was actually not terribly made, but it just rustled my jimmies to the point that it undermined my enjoyment of the movie... I usually like spike jonze but this one was just not doing it for me

Much of the "acclaim" movies get today is similar to the video game industry which has long been a joke as far as accurate reviews go.. aka it's all paid for. 5 STARS!!!

[xmikeman]

what most people think is a form of collective insanity

not to mention that much of the acclaim going around nowadays is bought and paid for in advance

her was actually not terribly made, but it just rustled my jimmies to the point that it undermined my enjoyment of the movie... I usually like spike jonze but this one was just not doing it for me

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. I and most people I know loved Her. I normally don't like Jonze's self-written work, but he hit it out of the park with that movie. I'd still like for him to collaborate with Charlie Kaufman (another talented director) on his future work though.

[Bro_montana]

Vertigo flopped at the box office and received mixed reviews from critics when it was first released. It is now considered the best film of all time.

It's not a hard and fast rule. I suspect that back then people weren't as critical when it came to film, both audience and critics. People literally live through film now, different times I guess?

[RoccoTanno123]

OP, since consider some of the big movies with major studio pushes 1998-2008. All the ones listed below were either major top 10 box office hits or big studio flops.

1998
Armageddon
Doctor Doolittle
Deep Impact
Godzilla
Patch Adams
Lethal Weapon 4 (#11)

1999
the phantom menace
tarzan
runaway bride
big daddy
blair witch project (not dated well at all)
the 13th warrior (huge flop)

2000
the grinch
mission impossible 2
what women want
supernova (bomb)
battlefield earth (bomb)
red planet (bomb)

2001
pearl harbor
planet of the apes
jurassic park 3
final fantasy (flop)

2002
men in black 2
pluto nash (bombed)
treasure planet (bomb)
Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever (bomb)
k-19 the widowmaker (flopped too)

2003 -- pretty good year, but i'll mention some
matrix 2 & 3
t3 (i liked it but it's not as good as T1 or T2)
bruce almighty (god wut ****)
bad boys 2 (#11)

2004
the day after tomorrow
meet the fockers
the alamo (bomb)


2005 (okay year, mostly)
sahara (bombed)
stealth (bombed)

2006
the da vinci code
night at the museum
superman returns
pirates of the caribbean 2

2007
spiderman 3
shrek 3
transformers
pirates of the carribean 3
national treasure 2
alvin and the chipmunks
i am legend (ok for what it is but does it really standout vs. similar movies today?)

2008
speed racer (bomb)
indiana jones 4
hancock
twilight
quantum of solace (worst daniel craig bond movie)
horton hears a who

On the whole, i don't think the major movies today are any worse than the comparable ones, aside from us being hammered over the head with a formula.

[xmikeman]

Much of the "acclaim" movies get today is similar to the video game industry which has long been a joke as far as accurate reviews go.. aka it's all paid for. 5 STARS!!!

If you go into The Avengers 8 and expect an original and thought out movies that's your fault. If you like film then put in the effort and keep track of who directs what. If not, then stop bitching and stop watching movies.