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    To eat at 9pm-10pm?

    I ended my work out about 830pm and require 30mins to travel back home.
    so I am only able to eat at 9+ ..should I eat some protein or totally skip it.
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    Originally Posted by Kairi91 View Post
    I ended my work out about 830pm and require 30mins to travel back home.
    so I am only able to eat at 9+ ..should I eat some protein or totally skip it.
    eat it
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    Originally Posted by Kairi91 View Post
    I ended my work out about 830pm and require 30mins to travel back home.
    so I am only able to eat at 9+ ..should I eat some protein or totally skip it.
    At that time, do you still have a calorie/macro quota for the day to fill?
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    If you're hungry, then you would eat. If you're in the mood for a food that's protein rich, then you would eat such. If not, you would eat something that isn't protein rich that you are in the mood for.

    If you're not hungry, then you would not eat.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    If you're hungry, then you would eat. If you're in the mood for a food that's protein rich, then you would eat such. If not, you would eat something that isn't protein rich that you are in the mood for.

    If you're not hungry, then you would not eat.
    but at that, sometimes depending on your goals and macro requirements, if dedicated, one must force food down the hatch to reach said goals
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    Originally Posted by Bh44 View Post
    but at that, sometimes depending on your goals and macro requirements, if dedicated, one must force food down the hatch to reach said goals
    Ugh, no.

    Why not simply consume more calorically dense, lower satiety foods rather than suffer???
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    Originally Posted by Bh44 View Post
    but at that, sometimes depending on your goals and macro requirements, if dedicated, one must force food down the hatch to reach said goals
    you are going down the road of an eating disorder.
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    seems lots of people on this forum dont think anything matters anymore besides hitting your macros however possible and it will all have the same result.

    I personally think there is a window 15-45 min after you workout where you can get the most out of taking protein and carbs. Maybe you could make a quick shake right when you get home, wait a hour, and by then you should e hungry for a bigger meal.

    I've also had to choke down several meals, as in chew it up and then force swallow it down with water..There's probably better ways but it's not that big of a deal to me.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Ugh, no.

    Why not simply consume more calorically dense, lower satiety foods rather than suffer???
    example?
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    Absolutely eat! I always eat something 5-10 minutes before going to bed so I have a nice steady slow drip of protonz while I sleep and recover.
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    Originally Posted by Eckobird View Post
    seems lots of people on this forum dont think anything matters anymore besides hitting your macros however possible and it will all have the same result.
    That's probably because there's no factor with meal timing that's more important than simply meeting calorie/macro/micro requirements by day's end.


    I personally think there is a window 15-45 min after you workout where you can get the most out of taking protein and carbs. Maybe you could make a quick shake right when you get home, wait a hour, and by then you should e hungry for a bigger meal.
    You're free to believe whatever you wish, but your 'window' premise isn't supported by science.
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    Originally Posted by Eckobird View Post
    example?
    One bowl of coconut curry soup made from coconut milk, coconut oil and curry spices can easily deliver over 1,000 calories.

    Snick on macadamias and you can easily down an additional 1,000 to 1,500 calories.

    Consume a milkshake made from premium ice cram and whole milk, and you can get an additional 1,000 calories in easily.

    Snack on peanut butter. A few spoons and you're heading towards an additional 1,000 calories.

    The list is endless.


    Originally Posted by Eckobird View Post
    I personally think there is a window 15-45 min after you workout where you can get the most out of taking protein and carbs. Maybe you could make a quick shake right when you get home, wait a hour, and by then you should e hungry for a bigger meal.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    One bowl of coconut curry soup made from coconut milk, coconut oil and curry spices can easily deliver over 1,000 calories.

    Snick on macadamias and you can easily down an additional 1,000 to 1,500 calories.

    Consume a milkshake made from premium ice cram and whole milk, and you can get an additional 1,000 calories in easily.

    Snack on peanut butter. A few spoons and you're heading towards an additional 1,000 calories.

    The list is endless.

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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    One bowl of coconut curry soup made from coconut milk, coconut oil and curry spices can easily deliver over 1,000 calories.

    Snick on macadamias and you can easily down an additional 1,000 to 1,500 calories.

    Consume a milkshake made from premium ice cram and whole milk, and you can get an additional 1,000 calories in easily.

    Snack on peanut butter. A few spoons and you're heading towards an additional 1,000 calories.

    The list is endless.


    You can think the sun revolves around the earth too, but that doesn't make it true.
    "Finally, another important factor to consider is the timing of this meal. It is absolutely crucial that you consume your post-workout meal immediately after exercise. As indicated above, after exercise, the muscles are depleted and require an abundance of protein and carbohydrate. In addition, during this time, the muscles are biochemically "primed" for nutrient uptake.

    This phenomenon is commonly known as the "window of opportunity". Over the course of the recovery period, this window gradually closes and by failing to eat immediately after exercise, you diminish your chances of promoting full recovery. To illustrate how quickly this window closes, research has shown that consuming a post-exercise meal immediately after working out is superior to consuming one only 1 hour later.

    In addition, consuming one 1 hour later is superior to consuming one 3 hours later (Tipton et al 2001, Levenhagen et al 2001). If you wait too long, glycogen replenishment and protein repair will be compromised." -

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/berardi4.htm

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    Also, coconut oil might be good, but is it good to go that much over your daily fat macro? especially when cutting, that has to be like 100G over or so. Also, eating 1000cal of ice cream every day to get a better physique, I think I'll pass.
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    ^^ You just quoted an ad for supplements disguised as an "article".

    If you know the truth, that the "window of opportunity" lasts ~24 hours, how likely would you be to buy processed fast foods marketed as protein supplements?
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    Originally Posted by Eckobird View Post
    "Finally, another important factor to consider is the timing of this meal. It is absolutely crucial that you consume your post-workout meal immediately after exercise. As indicated above, after exercise, the muscles are depleted and require an abundance of protein and carbohydrate. In addition, during this time, the muscles are biochemically "primed" for nutrient uptake.

    This phenomenon is commonly known as the "window of opportunity". Over the course of the recovery period, this window gradually closes and by failing to eat immediately after exercise, you diminish your chances of promoting full recovery. To illustrate how quickly this window closes, research has shown that consuming a post-exercise meal immediately after working out is superior to consuming one only 1 hour later.

    In addition, consuming one 1 hour later is superior to consuming one 3 hours later (Tipton et al 2001, Levenhagen et al 2001). If you wait too long, glycogen replenishment and protein repair will be compromised." -

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/berardi4.htm

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    Also, coconut oil might be good, but is it good to go that much over your daily fat macro? especially when cutting, that has to be like 100G over or so. Also, eating 1000cal of ice cream every day to get a better physique, I think I'll pass.

    Lol'd at referencing a bb.com article and presenting it as "science"
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    Originally Posted by Eckobird View Post
    "Finally, another important factor to consider is the timing of this meal. It is absolutely crucial that you consume your post-workout meal immediately after exercise. As indicated above, after exercise, the muscles are depleted and require an abundance of protein and carbohydrate. In addition, during this time, the muscles are biochemically "primed" for nutrient uptake.

    This phenomenon is commonly known as the "window of opportunity". Over the course of the recovery period, this window gradually closes and by failing to eat immediately after exercise, you diminish your chances of promoting full recovery. To illustrate how quickly this window closes, research has shown that consuming a post-exercise meal immediately after working out is superior to consuming one only 1 hour later.

    In addition, consuming one 1 hour later is superior to consuming one 3 hours later (Tipton et al 2001, Levenhagen et al 2001). If you wait too long, glycogen replenishment and protein repair will be compromised." -

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/berardi4.htm

    Science.


    Also, coconut oil might be good, but is it good to go that much over your daily fat macro? especially when cutting, that has to be like 100G over or so. Also, eating 1000cal of ice cream every day to get a better physique, I think I'll pass.
    Now come on guys... this was done in 2001.. we all know that information can't be updated once it's posted on the internet
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    Lolol. that was just a random article I found within 2 seconds. But I've seen similar articles for years everywhere, and they weren't ads for supplements. If nothing about them is true, and it doesn't matter at all when you eat after your workout, what is the point of the term "post workout meal"?

    There has been a ton of science behind insulin levels post workout and how you can take advantage of it.
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    Originally Posted by Eckobird View Post
    Lolol. that was just a random article I found within 2 seconds. But I've seen similar articles for years everywhere, and they weren't ads for supplements. If nothing about them is true, and it doesn't matter at all when you eat after your workout, what is the point of the term "post workout meal"?

    There has been a ton of science behind insulin levels post workout and how you can take advantage of it.
    youre right there has been, and its been debunked. people also used to think the world was flat....
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    Lolol. that was just a random article I found within 2 seconds. But I've seen similar articles for years everywhere, and they weren't ads for supplements. If nothing about them is true, and it doesn't matter at all when you eat after your workout, what is the point of the term "post workout meal"?
    The point is to sell supplements.
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    Originally Posted by Eckobird View Post
    If nothing about them is true, and it doesn't matter at all when you eat after your workout, what is the point of the term "post workout meal"?
    You understand you're supporting your belief in bogus studies and articles by citing a made-up concept that was created by the same people that produced the bogus studies and articles, right?
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    You understand you're supporting your belief in bogus studies and articles by citing a made-up concept that was created by the same people that produced the bogus studies and articles, right?
    Shhh. Dont bring the universe crashing down.
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    In addition, consuming one 1 hour later is superior to consuming one 3 hours later (Tipton et al 2001, Levenhagen et al 2001). If you wait too long, glycogen replenishment and protein repair will be compromised." -

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    I certainly wouldn't want to train and then go to bed(not sure if that is what you are implying). Would want something PWO. Sleep better - at least for me.
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    my issue is eating the right amount before going to bed. too much and i won't feel comfortable laying down right away, then i get sleepy on the couch and watch tv instead of going to sleep. then after post-meal lethargy passes i've got the tv on and get distracted my movies or infomercials and stay up...

    i try to eat just a sandwich or a bowl of cereal or fruit before going to bed if i'm hungry
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    If you're hungry, then you would eat. If you're in the mood for a food that's protein rich, then you would eat such. If not, you would eat something that isn't protein rich that you are in the mood for.

    If you're not hungry, then you would not eat.
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    i eliminate these issues by getting up early and working out before work. Then I have a nice big breakfast and have energy for the day.
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    If you hit all your macros you don't need to eat but if you haven't...
    make sure to fill it before sleeping lol
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