Wtf is the deal with Egg yolks?

[rob2093124]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post712053741
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post712053951
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post712054151
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703981
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=136691851

[WonderPug]

It seems that you have a blast coming on here and tearing people with no scientific background to shreds during a simple discussion of interest. Congratulations that you're so chem savvy. I would blow you away in my craft. But I have news for you, not everyone on these forums are scientists, and a true expert knows how to educate the less educated.

The problem is that you're posting definitive statements, without any knowledge of what the statements mean or any way to validate the statements.

And what you're posting makes no sense to those with a bit of knowledge.

So my question to you, since you're aware that you don't understand this topic, is why not try to learn rather than make posts as if you know what you're talking about (with the resulting misinformation)?

[Retoaded]

An example of the absurdity that you've been posting in this thread and in others follows:





This is a good very basic primer.

interesting site thanks for posting.

[NapBizzy]

Eat your egg yolks.

Literally nature's multivitamin.

[ss4vegeta1]

Still no one answered me. What about the way they are cooked? Why is it ok to eat scrambled eggs? What effect does that have on the body? With the high heat effecting on the cholesterol, the epa and the enzymes which help digestion? or does the saturated fat protect these things some how when being denatured?

[Connor1226]

Right, the metabolic problem is a result of their diet, usually. Especially in vegans. Not dietary cholesterol, but other dietary factors that affect lipid profiles. This is why some vegans have high cholesterol.

This is the point I was trying to make.
Dietary cholesterol intake does not directly correlate with high blood cholesterol levels. There are other contributing factors.

I agree with Roots47. You are coming off argumentative. You aren't contributing much, just trying to be right.

[necon76]

This is the point I was trying to make.
Dietary cholesterol intake does not directly correlate with high blood cholesterol levels. There are other contributing factors.

I agree with Roots47. You are coming off argumentative. You aren't contributing much, just trying to be right.

Correcting someone who is wrong =/= being argumentative.

[WonderPug]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post712053741
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post712053951
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post712054151
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703981
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=136691851

The links are not working.

[seamus33]

It's tragic that folks have become reluctant to consume nutrient dense whole foods like eggs, while embracing nutrient sparse diets, often composed from large amounts of industrial foods.

The consequences? Since the onset of such absurd dietary patterns, the rates of diabetes in the States have skyrocket to over 10% of the adult population and the rates of pre-diabetic metabolic dysfunction have exploded to ~40% of adult population. Yes, ~50% of the adults in the America have diabetes of a precursor metabolic dysfunction.

Overweight and obesity are plaguing about two thirds of the adult population. And this is the first generation in many generations where children are not expected to live as long, let alone longer, than their parents despite major advances in medical care.

The rampant avoidance of a nutritious diet is literally making us sick.

a sophist! a real rhetorician! a true politician!

[WonderPug]

Studies "proving" saturated fat causes any type of disease are all observational epidemiological studies. These show a relationship but do not prove any cause or mechanism by which the disease process occurs.

Food for though: observational epidemiological studies actually show an inverse relationship between the intake of animal fats and CVD. It's only when researchers remove the data points that don't fit their lipid hypothesis that the relationship appears present. In other words, it's only when they fake the results, saturated fat implicated. Think Ancel Keys.

[sa7soon]

Pretty sure it say's "he doesn't see the yolk as being dangerous", and by "dangerous" I'm assuming he mean's "harmful" to his health.

Your new Avi looks dangerous. Lol mirin.

^This. Reminds me of King from Tekken.

Sat fat and cholesterol are not the same thing at all or a package deal

Deviating from the thread topic.. Are you really 86 lbs?! If so, WonderPug, it may be your cue to say that phrase you're infamous for. Haha.

[isdatzo]

Food for though: observational epidemiological studies actually show an inverse relationship between the intake of animal fats and CVD. It's only when researchers remove the data points that don't fit their lipid hypothesis that the relationship appears present. In other words, it's only when they fake the results, saturated fat implicated. Think Ancel Keys.

Note that this is the unadjusted data. Soon I will adjust for major confounding factors. The reason I published this data is that is has been available for years. And that it has probably never been published for the sole reason that it suggest an effect opposite from desired effects. I am pretty sure researchers would have lined up if the directional line was upward.

[Mrpb]

Note that this is the unadjusted data. Soon I will adjust for major confounding factors. The reason I published this data is that is has been available for years. And that it has probably never been published for the sole reason that it suggest an effect opposite from desired effects. I am pretty sure researchers would have lined up if the directional line was upward.

Why does it say "availability" and not intake or consumption?

[isdatzo]

Why does it say "availability" and not intake or consumption?

Food supply data is an estimate of the per capita (per person) amount of available food for human consumption. It does not indicate what is actually consumed by individuals and is therefore an overestimation of actual food intake.

The FAO food supply data is not adjusted for what is thrown in the garbage bag. As with most ecological analyses.

[nicholina]

Why does it say "availability" and not intake or consumption?

It's also more reliable than dietary recall.

Wonderpug, where is this graph from?

[Mrpb]

It's also more reliable than dietary recall.

So a foods availability is a more reliable indicator of intake than reported intake?

Is this a fact?

And yes I'm aware that reported food intake is often inaccurate.

Wonderpug, where is this graph from?

It's in the graph, from isdatzo's website in his signature: http://www.foodanddisease.com/

[Connor1226]

Correcting someone who is wrong =/= being argumentative.

No, she's being argumentative.
Most of the time she's not "correcting" anything. She just goes around saying "wrong... wrong... wrong".
She didn't really read my comment before trying to pick it apart and then restate what I basically did.

It's coming off arrogant.

[nicholina]

So a foods availability is a more reliable indicator of intake than reported intake?

Is this a fact?

And yes I'm aware that reported food intake is often inaccurate.



It's in the graph, from isdatzo's website in his signature: http://www.foodanddisease.com/

Thanks! I heard about this data a few days ago and didnt know what the source was. Its mind blowing how much influence Ancel Keys had with his one, poorly designed study. Especially since there was so much conflicting scientific research available at the time.

[Roots47]

Thanks! I heard about this data a few days ago and didnt know what the source was. Its mind blowing how much influence Ancel Keys had with his one, poorly designed study. Especially since there was so much conflicting scientific research available at the time.

Isn't that the guy that some sugar conglomerates paid to say fat is bad? Or am I thinking of someone else? Ever see that "The American Parasite" video? hah.

[nicholina]

Isn't that the guy that some sugar conglomerates paid to say fat is bad? Or am I thinking of someone else? Ever see that "The American Parasite" video? hah.

I'm not sure, but he's the guy that is mainly responsible for public health policies that advocate low fat diets, and why so many people think there is a causal link between dietary fat and CVD.

[WonderPug]

Thanks! I heard about this data a few days ago and didnt know what the source was. Its mind blowing how much influence Ancel Keys had with his one, poorly designed study. Especially since there was so much conflicting scientific research available at the time.

There wasn't really conflicting data, just conflicts of interest expressed as selectively reported data. And that's the real tragedy.

[VmissileX]

statistical inference at its finest.

[InItForFitness]

Lol @ this entire thread and some of the fully loade baked potatoes posting :P

Made for good entertainment during my cardio.

[mjreiman]

I am gonna have to agree with InIt on this one haha. I am bulking and do a dozen whole eggs a day. 3 of them raw first thing in the morning with some quick oats. Eat your yolks!!! If you're a man. Otherwise, do AdvoCare

[VmissileX]

I am gonna have to agree with InIt on this one haha. I am bulking and do a dozen whole eggs a day. 3 of them raw first thing in the morning with some quick oats. Eat your yolks!!! If you're a man. Otherwise, do AdvoCare

you must have some awful awful farts.

[digistp]

I am gonna have to agree with InIt on this one haha. I am bulking and do a dozen whole eggs a day. 3 of them raw first thing in the morning with some quick oats. Eat your yolks!!! If you're a man. Otherwise, do AdvoCare

You're being wasteful

[nicholina]

There wasn't really conflicting data, just conflicts of interest expressed as selectively reported data. And that's the real tragedy.

Right, none of the scientific data was actually conflicting.

[WonderPug]

Right, none of the scientific data was actually conflicting.

And that's tragic, given the outcomes of dietary recommendations based on ideology, dressed as "science".