Police Brutality - Green Bay Police Officer Derek Wicklund goes too far

[matnificnt]

So you're telling me that a generation that has seen increasing government intervention/corruption doesn't want to continue with it. Colored me shock brah

I LOL when I see people say things like this, we live in a time where instances of actual political corruption with regards to money mismanagement is at an all time low, and information about candidates is at an all time high, yet political participation is dismal.

[dfwt70gt]

Ignoring the cesspool that is the federal government (a large pool to ignore), corporate influence/bribery in politics is #1 in my books. In terms of police activity, Maryland is pretty good. My home county 's LEO department had a spout where they were pulling over drivers and doing drug searches randomly. I haven't heard about it or any videos of it in a couple months so I am assuming it simmered down. I also don't do into Baltimore unless it's an O's game. But when you have the DOJ calling out an entire police department for their execution-style manner like they recently did with the Albuquerque police, you know something is wrong.

People with that kind of power need to be checked in some way and having their authority questioned is okay in my books

From my experience, bribery and corporate influence have absolutely nothing to do with local law enforcement protocols and guidelines/actions. You can see this through the civil disobedience lashing out against gun registration in Connecticut and other states. Here in CO we've had several county Sheriff's actively speak out against politicians trying to control citizens. I do not think your resistance and anger are pointed at the right people.

[SoSick]

Head in the sand. OK

Regardless of your ignorance, please please please try to recreate this same situation and act like the hardass you think you are. Then make a thread calling it brutality but only show the part where the cop reacts, not the part where you interfered or disregarded instructions from an officer.

Hey man, I get it, being a police officer can be tough. Like I said, a few of my close buddies are cops and I hear the stories. From gore to crackheads they deal with a lot and its often stressful.

This cop here lost his cool and whether or not the average person would have lost theirs too is irrelevant because what followed was objectively brutal and unnecessary. Even if he is a nice guy and does volunteer work on weekends, this action needs consequences because the law in situations like these needs to be objective or else it will be exploited.

The other cops' mannerisms didn't suggest this was a wildly chaotic situation either so it may very well be that the cop in question just isn't strong enough to be a proper cop. But again, this was brutal an unnecessary, now matter how satisfying it may be to see someone you don't like get punched in the face.

[Gentlemans]

Regardless of this specific incident, are you implying that police officers should wait until somebody draws a weapon on them to act?

The 21 ft rule is in regards to knives.

[MrVeggie]

I destropyed your argument, that's why I'm not making any sense to you.

It's clear you are simple. Cops are supposed to walk around and allow people to get dangerously close while they are engaged in an arrest because YOU believe they are supposed to exercise restraint?! GTFO seriously!

LOL are you fkin serious bro? I mean have never seen someone this stupid on the misc before. Like do you actually take the time to take in what you just read or do you just go like "he's not agreeing with me, fuk him im right". Like im at a loss for words. How does chasing after someone, knocking them down, and then punching them "exercise restraint"? Maybe just simply ignoring him after saying fuk you would suffice?

[dweeegs]

I LOL when I see people say things like this, we live in a time where instances of actual political corruption with regards to money mismanagement is at an all time low, and information about candidates is at an all time high, yet political participation is dismal.

Sauce

[dfwt70gt]

LOL are you fkin serious bro? I mean have never seen someone this stupid on the misc before. Like do you actually take the time to take in what you just read or do you just go like "he's not agreeing with me, fuk him im right". Like im at a loss for words. How does chasing after someone, knocking them down, and then punching them "exercise restraint"? Maybe just simply ignoring him after saying fuk you would suffice?

When are you going to get off of the whole restraint BS? Cops are not clergyman and they shouldn't have to act like it when they are acting in dangerous situations. But you would rather sling insults instead of address the facts.

Good luck in your future endeavors.

[dfwt70gt]

The 21 ft rule is in regards to knives.

The 21 ft rule is in regards to anyone who may present a physical threat, weapon or not. A skilled MMA'er can destroy and close quickly in 21 ft.

[dfwt70gt]

What is your real account?

My guess, Veggie.

[r3pme]

when the guy was explaining what happened to that chick

"the dude just came up and asked what was wrong, and the cop literally pushed him into the car"

no that wasn't what happened. dude came up and was disturbing the peace, and was actively resisting. cops have the authority to use non lethal force to restrain the guy in that case.

[dfwt70gt]

when the guy was explaining what happened to that chick

"the dude just came up and asked what was wrong, and the cop literally pushed him into the car"

no that wasn't what happened. dude came up and was disturbing the peace, and was actively resisting. cops have the authority to use non lethal force to restrain the guy in that case.

Pepper for butthurt negs headed your way friend.

[Gentlemans]

The 21 ft rule is in regards to anyone who may present a physical threat, weapon or not. A skilled MMA'er can destroy and close quickly in 21 ft.

Maybe to an untrained cop but a well trained cop will shoot you down quickly. Regardless that cop was wrong he was clearly pissed the guy cursed at him. If you can see that then you are clearly biased. You can see when the cop face turned angry, emotions on the job are a sign of weakness.

[r3pme]

Since when is telling a cop "fuk you" enough to warrant getting thrown to the ground and punched in the face while not resisting at all?

Freedom of speech was not seen here today.

guy had his arms up and was trying to push the cop off. he was also interfering with the arrest, prior to mouthing off, so the cop could have gotten him for that.

police have discretion. you likely won't get ticketed for jaywalking, but if you jaywalk and cuss out a cop, then you will go.

[Nathan17]

thought he was going to push him into traffic lol

Why do people get so butthurt over this stuff. Causes so much hate

[DiddlemeDrogba]

The guy was being a ******* and I understand the takedown. Punching him in the face after he's been neutralized on the hood of a car is excessive.

[dfwt70gt]

Maybe to an untrained cop but a well trained cop will shoot you down quickly. Regardless that cop was wrong he was clearly pissed the guy cursed at him. If you can see that then you are clearly biased. You can see when the cop face turned angry, emotions on the job are a sign of weakness.

You have experience unholstering a firearm, aiming and firing at a subject closing 21 ft without warning? Training or not it's a crap shoot.

[r3pme]

Based on that video alone, nobody knows what happened prior to the dude cussing out the cop. I'm not siding with either the cop or the guy who got pummeled, but I can't understand why people are so quick to jump to conclusions without even knowing the full story.

everything that was on video was what happened.

guy interfering with an arrest, cop pushes him away, and the same guy decides to cuss out the cop. then resists.

[MrVeggie]

When are you going to get off of the whole restraint BS? Cops are not clergyman and they shouldn't have to act like it when they are acting in dangerous situations. But you would rather sling insults instead of address the facts.

Good luck in your future endeavors.

Derp cops should be able to shoot everyone because they be carrying a gun or knife. Hows that?

[Gentlemans]

A Special Forces platoon had to police the country of Haiti I believe it was about ten million people. They were there for about 8 months and only killed one man (because he shot at them.) they were literally Soldier Cop Judge Jury and Executioner. By the time they were leaving everyone was cheering them. Why? Because they were professional. Cool and calm. most cops can't even talk to people properly, they have not been trained to it seems.

[dfwt70gt]

A Special Forces platoon had to police the country of Haiti I believe it was about ten million people. They were there for about 8 months and only killed one man (because he shot at them.) they were literally Soldier Cop Judge Jury and Executioner. By the time they were leaving everyone was cheering them. Why? Because they were professional. Cool and calm. most cops can't even talk to people properly, they have not been trained to it seems.

So the behavior of someone acting against the law should be ignored while upholding and enforcing the law? Europe and Haiti are probably accepting immigrants if that's what you'd like to have as law enforcement.

Can someone explain why we are constantly trying the change our society to mirror socialist nations?

[Gentlemans]

You have experience unholstering a firearm, aiming and firing at a subject closing 21 ft without warning? Training or not it's a crap shoot.

My point is the opposite happened in the video the cop was charging and the guy was backing up then he got taken down and punched twice in the face. Have you no empathy? When it happens to you I hope you keep the same viewpoint.

I do BJJ I got attacked by two guys on the street and I got a heel hook on one of them and tore his knee out. Even though I was attacked I still felt sorry for the guy because now he won't walk for a few months. I got cursed at by so many drunks and never even fought them, why am I gonna fight a drunk? You need a lesson in empathy.

[Freek314]

So the behavior of someone acting against the law should be ignored while upholding and enforcing the law? Europe and Haiti are probably accepting immigrants if that's what you'd like to have as law enforcement.

Can someone explain why we are constantly trying the change our society to mirror socialist nations?

Please, please elaborate as to how that is applicable here.

[Gentlemans]

So the behavior of someone acting against the law should be ignored while upholding and enforcing the law? Europe and Haiti are probably accepting immigrants if that's what you'd like to have as law enforcement.

Can someone explain why we are constantly trying the change our society to mirror socialist nations?

What I was getting at is if a force of less than 5'000 can police 10 million people in a third world country after a coup had just been staged and only kill man and have the people cheer them when they left then why can't police in the US behave properly? Because in the US as a cop it's us (cops) against them (Citizens)

[Gentlemans]

Please, please elaborate as to how that is applicable here.

I have no idea either.

[dfwt70gt]

My point is the opposite happened in the video the cop was charging and the guy was backing up then he got taken down and punched twice in the face. Have you no empathy? When it happens to you I hope you keep the same viewpoint.

I do BJJ I got attacked by two guys on the street and I got a heel hook on one of them and tore his knee out. Even though I was attacked I still felt sorry for the guy because now he won't walk for a few months. I got cursed at by so many drunks and never even fought them, why am I gonna fight a drunk? You need a lesson in empathy.

You're assuming lack of empathy determines actions.

I guess I am expecting too much in the way of understanding from those who have zero experience with a situation like this.

[dfwt70gt]

What I was getting at is if a force of less than 5'000 can police 10 million people in a third world country after a coup had just been staged and only kill man and have the people cheer them when they left then why can't police in the US behave properly? Because in the US as a cop it's us (cops) against them (Citizens)

The actions of 1 officer in this instance =all US officers?

[dfwt70gt]

Please, please elaborate as to how that is applicable here.

Cops should be soft. Cops shouldn't control any situations they are in and allow several drunk people to crowd around and outnumber them substantially because we don't want the misc getting upset with how we do our job.

Everyone, including you is Monday morning qb'ing this incident. If you are not an officer and have never been in a situation like this then you will have irrational opinions of how these things should be resolved.

Would I have done that? Most likely not. But if dude was that close interfering with my partner, a push would not suffice. I'm willing to wager that kid was warned prior to that push but did not listen to the officer's directions.

[Gentlemans]

You're assuming lack of empathy determines actions.

I guess I am expecting too much in the way of understanding from those who have zero experience with a situation like this.

When you were in the Marines it was Us (Marines) against them (The enemy) when you become a cop after the military it's the same thing. You don't just forget.

[gatovolador]

If cops don't want to deal with bull****, they shouldn't be cops. It's not like they are forced to do the job. If they want to go kill/hurt people, they should join the military. To be cop, you should be better than regular people, be able to defuse situations, be less violent than regular people.

EDIT: And I don't get into fights with drunk people. Not because I don't want to, but because I will get held accountable by the law. A cop will not get held accountable 99% of the time, and the rest of the force will back him up, which bothers me the most.

[YIAMSOMEBODY]

Where's the video? It says it's been removed.