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    I'm one of the biggest kids in my grade and one of the better football players and was the only freshman on varsity. When I was freshman I was a solid linebacker but was small compared to the Junior ahead of me and thus I only started 2 games. As an incoming sophomore I plan on competing for a starting job, but I'm slightly smaller than the incoming senior. I've recently started crossfit and have seen my deadlift and squat soar to well over 300 pounds and I hope to see that translate to being a more explosive player. The only problem is I haven't seen any significant weight gains. How would you suggest changing what I'm doing in terms of how I'm working out and what I'm eating to add lean muscle mass without losing speed and explosiveness?
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    Stop crossfit.

    Eat more. I can't tell you how many people have told me that they can't gain weight, then they turn a food log into me and they NEVER are eating nearly as much as they think they are. Eat in the morning and before bed and alll through out the day. Bring snacks with you to school if you have to, and eat as much off your parents budget as you can.
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    Originally Posted by jalundah View Post
    Stop crossfit.

    Eat more. I can't tell you how many people have told me that they can't gain weight, then they turn a food log into me and they NEVER are eating nearly as much as they think they are. Eat in the morning and before bed and alll through out the day. Bring snacks with you to school if you have to, and eat as much off your parents budget as you can.
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    When I saw your thread title my reaction was: "yes you can, just not with that attitude."

    I wouldn't say stop CF. I don't know what kind of CF WODs you are doing. If they have the breadth and depth of main site WODs I'd say you should either add a strength program or cut out some of the metcon / long run days and substitute power lifting in there.

    Eating to gain weight while doing CF is a full time job.

    FWIW, I eat about 1.5-2x what a "normal" person eats with a high protein diet PLUS about 1/2 a protein shake at every meal, 3-6 meals / day.
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    Originally Posted by a_emory View Post
    When I saw your thread title my reaction was: "yes you can, just not with that attitude."

    I wouldn't say stop CF. I don't know what kind of CF WODs you are doing. If they have the breadth and depth of main site WODs I'd say you should either add a strength program or cut out some of the metcon / long run days and substitute power lifting in there.

    Eating to gain weight while doing CF is a full time job.

    FWIW, I eat about 1.5-2x what a "normal" person eats with a high protein diet PLUS about 1/2 a protein shake at every meal, 3-6 meals / day.
    Why so much protein...
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    Originally Posted by ConnorKershaw View Post
    Why so much protein...
    I am about as active as a person can be and I have about 150-170lbs of lean body mass. So my goal is to eat about 1gram of protein per pound of lean body mass.

    It is not easy.
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    Originally Posted by jalundah View Post
    Stop crossfit.

    Eat more. I can't tell you how many people have told me that they can't gain weight, then they turn a food log into me and they NEVER are eating nearly as much as they think they are. Eat in the morning and before bed and alll through out the day. Bring snacks with you to school if you have to, and eat as much off your parents budget as you can.
    This is 100% correct.
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    Originally Posted by krakkerz View Post
    This is 100% correct.
    I don't think I'm gonna stop crossfit because I've definitely seen drastic improvement in most, if not all of my lifts. I definitly agree with what you're saying about not eating enough and realized that was me. Also I've got a bench, barbell, a set of weights, and 40 pound dumbells in my basement what lifts can I do in spare time to increase strength and size away from cf?
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    Originally Posted by JS26 View Post
    I don't think I'm gonna stop crossfit because I've definitely seen drastic improvement in most, if not all of my lifts. I definitly agree with what you're saying about not eating enough and realized that was me. Also I've got a bench, barbell, a set of weights, and 40 pound dumbells in my basement what lifts can I do in spare time to increase strength and size away from cf?
    I couldn't care less if you stop Crossfit. It's a reasonable way to build some GPP. The thing is that it is doing NOTHING towards your weight gain and probably hinders it because of the lack of appropriate programming for your goals.

    That is, unless you are using a set of programmed workouts more like Crossfit Football, which I think goes outside the generally accepted Crossfit ethos, anyway.

    To use your barbell set effectively, you just need to choose a simple routine which has been shown to work. Since you have some good numbers, it can be one of the more advanced routines like DeFranco's WS4SB3.

    If you prefer to keep it simple, which you probably should do if you're going to keep the Crossfit, stick with a three day per week full body routine or just use what's in the Crossfit. Mind you, I think that that's a disaster waiting to happen for your goals.

    Alternately, read up on Endline Training's thread on structuring your program and the subsequent three week block he posted. That's how most people would look at structuring a sport routine.
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    Originally Posted by jalundah View Post
    Stop crossfit.

    Eat more. I can't tell you how many people have told me that they can't gain weight, then they turn a food log into me and they NEVER are eating nearly as much as they think they are. Eat in the morning and before bed and alll through out the day. Bring snacks with you to school if you have to, and eat as much off your parents budget as you can.
    Couldnt agree more
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    Originally Posted by krakkerz View Post
    I couldn't care less if you stop Crossfit. It's a reasonable way to build some GPP. The thing is that it is doing NOTHING towards your weight gain and probably hinders it because of the lack of appropriate programming for your goals.

    That is, unless you are using a set of programmed workouts more like Crossfit Football, which I think goes outside the generally accepted Crossfit ethos, anyway.

    To use your barbell set effectively, you just need to choose a simple routine which has been shown to work. Since you have some good numbers, it can be one of the more advanced routines like DeFranco's WS4SB3.

    If you prefer to keep it simple, which you probably should do if you're going to keep the Crossfit, stick with a three day per week full body routine or just use what's in the Crossfit. Mind you, I think that that's a disaster waiting to happen for your goals.

    Alternately, read up on Endline Training's thread on structuring your program and the subsequent three week block he posted. That's how most people would look at structuring a sport routine.
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