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    Originally Posted by guyver79 View Post
    I did the first workout of phase one earlier this week just to see what it's like, 9 sets to failure of chest back and legs within minutes left me absolutely phucked!!!

    I've never been a fan of full body workouts, for me personally I find them very hard to recover from, I do have a very tough physical job though, so some of you younger guys might be fine.

    There is no way I could do that for 8 weeks let alone the two weeks of overreaching full body workouts everyday for 4 days in a row and 1rm on the Fri!!!

    I'd actually be interested in how many people drop out or have to modify it before the overreaching phase because the workout is really being pushed as the deciding factor on whether or not the product will work, yet as far as I know there has not been any follow up studies with different training protocols, which is a bit odd?

    I'll run it with a standard p/p/l split.

    Oh and btw my clear muscle arrived this afternoon!!!

    I wonder if I'm one of the first in the uk to take it?

    As far as I know itself not actually available within UK yet?
    I don't think it's odd at all that we haven't seen additional data using other training protocols yet. This could be due to one of the following:

    1) The original study was damn expensive even if you looked at just the amount of bloodwork that was being done.
    2) If there is a study that is currently or had been conducted by Wilson using a modified protocol, until it gets reviewed and published, they can't release any of the information yet or else the study will not get published in a journal.

    Looking forward to seeing how it works out for you! I've only asked about if there are anybody running the protocol without using clear muscle so that we can have some sort of idea between recovery with vs without Clear Muscle. Going by just the sponsored logs or logs of people using the product and doing the protocol at the same time will basically yield not a single damn person knowing how the product is affecting recovery. So it's only logical for people like you and myself whom are running the product whilst using training protocols which we are very familiar with (because you and I understand what our usual recovery is like with our current training), just that basing everything on my own experience is basically a n=1 scenario :P

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    Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    I don't think it's odd at all that we haven't seen additional data using other training protocols yet. This could be due to one of the following:

    1) The original study was damn expensive even if you looked at just the amount of bloodwork that was being done.
    2) If there is a study that is currently or had been conducted by Wilson using a modified protocol, until it gets reviewed and published, they can't release any of the information yet or else the study will not get published in a journal.
    Oh yeah, didn't really think about that who was gonna pay for it!


    Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Looking forward to seeing how it works out for you! I've only asked about if there are anybody running the protocol without using clear muscle so that we can have some sort of idea between recovery with vs without Clear Muscle. Going by just the sponsored logs or logs of people using the product and doing the protocol at the same time will basically yield not a single damn person knowing how the product is affecting recovery. So it's only logical for people like you and myself whom are running the product whilst using training protocols which we are very familiar with (because you and I understand what our usual recovery is like with our current training), just that basing everything on my own experience is basically a n=1 scenario :P

    Keep us updated brother!
    Yea sure thing, I've not really had much of a leap in gains for years, if all of a sudden I start getting any improvements it would be a pretty good indicator that the clear muscle was improving recovery and that's what I'm expecting, I honestly can't see me gaining "16lb of muscle in 12 weeks"!!!!!

    I will also add I've had an insanely brutal few weeks at work, so actually feeling pretty phucked as it is.
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    Originally Posted by guyver79 View Post
    I will also add I've had an insanely brutal few weeks at work, so actually feeling pretty phucked as it is.
    I have been dosing 2 caps before I head out for my lunch break. Reasoning being I take long ass walks for lunch. 60 nyc blocks long. So I usually work my legs a lot during the week, that's my little experiment on if it will reduce some legs fatigue dosed like that. Usually days after or on leg days, these lunch breaks typically does introduce extra legs fatigue (for some reason they sometimes tax my traps as well, don't know how that works, must be my posture).
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    This may have been asked before, but I have searched and cannot find anything...When can we expect to notice the Clear Muscle "kicking in", or will we? I wasn't sure we will just slowly see our lifts getting better or one week will we just start killing it in the gym? Thanks.
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    Originally Posted by jcoates1986 View Post
    This may have been asked before, but I have searched and cannot find anything...When can we expect to notice the Clear Muscle "kicking in", or will we? I wasn't sure we will just slowly see our lifts getting better or one week will we just start killing it in the gym? Thanks.
    Hard to tell with all the new loggers being on a training protocol completely new to them, so I don't know how they can gauge improved recovery (which is essentially what the HMB provides) because they don't have knowledge of how recovery plays out with that protocol without HMB.

    Your best bet is to see what people experience from it running their own program. I've noticed less fatigue personally but it's too early to give the credit to Clear Muscle at this point. So give it some time as the product gets into more peoples hands and see how recovery trends for them.
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    This is prob a Lil bit of broscience but I've always felt that getting to sleep easily and staying asleep and morning wood/random boners and basically being hornier than a dog with two dicks were pretty good indicators of being recovered.

    (Again this is from personal experience mixed with broscience!)
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    Originally Posted by jcoates1986 View Post
    This may have been asked before, but I have searched and cannot find anything...When can we expect to notice the Clear Muscle "kicking in", or will we? I wasn't sure we will just slowly see our lifts getting better or one week will we just start killing it in the gym? Thanks.
    about 2 weeks in you will start seeing some effects by the 4 th week you will be able to notice Clear Muscle in full swing.
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    im sure this was asked but there's a lot of pages to search but should this be taken with food at all? And do we need to be on the same training regiment as the participants in the study were on to see the effects? Dont get me wrong, the training regiment looks good and I will be following it throughout taking clear muscle but if the supplement only works (eg. you only see results) with this specified program then I feel it has failed. IMO, I feel (hope) that this program will bring out the max potential of this product but doing a less intense workout will still yield results but not the results of "16lbs in 12 weeks"
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    Cant wait to see the final results from this promo, very excited to try Clear Muscle when it comes out!
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    Cant wait to see the final results from this promo, very excited to try Clear Muscle when it comes out!
    Clear Muscle is now available in the store already.
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    here's my question: normally, the most muscle you can build naturally in a 4 month time span is 8lbs, and that's at the fast end of the scale for muscle growth. So when lean bulking, you traditionally aim for a .5-1lb gain/week. However, since clear muscle claims to be able to add 16lbs of lean mass in the same time span, then is the .5-1 still applicable?
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    Originally Posted by AutumnHB View Post
    here's my question: normally, the most muscle you can build naturally in a 4 month time span is 8lbs, and that's at the fast end of the scale for muscle growth. So when lean bulking, you traditionally aim for a .5-1lb gain/week. However, since clear muscle claims to be able to add 16lbs of lean mass in the same time span, then is the .5-1 still applicable?
    That lean mass gain isn't all new muscle. There's a lot of glycogen and water weight when you super compensate.
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    Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    That lean mass gain isn't all new muscle. There's a lot of glycogen and water weight when you super compensate.
    ah, I see.
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    Anywhere I can read the full study? I've only found the website which has a lot of details of the results. But is there an actual published journal article or something? With things like number of participants, exact differences between the experimental and control groups (i.e. whether it was really only just the pill), whether there were any other physiological or anthropometric results aside from weight and 1RMs, etc.

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    Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Anybody doing the program NOT using the HMB but logging it?

    Would be interesting to see how recovery is impacted. No way to tell for the product loggers since everybody is basically doing a new training protocol with no basis for comparison. I'm doing my own splits so I have an idea of recovery differences (and it's too early to tell if it's the CM since it's only been week 1) but I'm a n ='s 1 so it's silly.
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    For the traning routine, I will ask corp this week why it's different in the magazine.
    As for now you follow the training routine on the website.
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    For the traning routine, I will ask corp this week why it's different in the magazine.
    As for now you follow the training routine on the website.
    (next time if you have a pressing question, Pm a rep or myself..)

    We can't follow every single response in every thread always.
    Can't wait for your A:B comparisons brother!
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    I just got my first Clear Muscle bottle this past Friday (May 23). I'm doing my own training program and will keep a detailed training log.I will let you know the results after the 3rd month.
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    Originally Posted by streetlit35 View Post
    I just got my first Clear Muscle bottle this past Friday (May 23). I'm doing my own training program and will keep a detailed training log.I will let you know the results after the 3rd month.
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    Originally Posted by streetlit35 View Post
    I just got my first Clear Muscle bottle this past Friday (May 23). I'm doing my own training program and will keep a detailed training log.I will let you know the results after the 3rd month.
    Sweet, link the log up in here
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    Clear Muscle Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161906833&p=1244983053#post1244983053

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    whats up guys I am logging it too if anyone wants to check out my log, doing a mixture of posts and video logs

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=162076951
    Logs: none currently


    previous sponsored logs and reviews can be seen here:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=158128363

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    Originally Posted by streetlit35 View Post
    I just got my first Clear Muscle bottle this past Friday (May 23). I'm doing my own training program and will keep a detailed training log.I will let you know the results after the 3rd month.
    Nice man! Thanks for trying the product!
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    Hey guys I haven't been getting a lot of feedback on my log, but please check it out!

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1246787293

    any comments, criticisms, advice is welcome. I am open ears!!
    iSatori Gro-Stack Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166413961&pagenumber=
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    Originally Posted by Hkosaka91 View Post
    Hey guys I haven't been getting a lot of feedback on my log, but please check it out!

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1246787293

    any comments, criticisms, advice is welcome. I am open ears!!

    Somehow I missed this one; subbed!
    btw - jelly of the Korean bbq...we have jack all for Korean around here. There's nothing like chowing down on mass amounts of kimchi and bulgogi for dirt cheap.
    The Journey (PL log) - /showthread.php?t=167321531
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    First Meet - S: 347/157.5 B: 204/92.5 D: 441/200 @ 145bw 11/07/15


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    Forgot to post the link to my log in here but here it is. Anyone notice any big changes starting week 2?

    forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=162003803
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    Thanks guys. I'll post my first log tomorrow. I'm new to this site (like being active) and just updated my profile with new pics and everything. I'm using Clear Muscle more for its recovery. I'm following my own training regimen because it's more intense. I train twice a day (2-3 hours weight session in the morning, evening is cardio). In Oct I weighed 143 lbs, and built up to 181 lbs currently. I've been using Clear Muscle since 5-23, and posted a review on it what I think of it so far. I'm new to using this site so sorry for any rookie mistakes lol
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    Originally Posted by jcoates1986 View Post
    This may have been asked before, but I have searched and cannot find anything...When can we expect to notice the Clear Muscle "kicking in", or will we? I wasn't sure we will just slowly see our lifts getting better or one week will we just start killing it in the gym? Thanks.
    It'll kick in as soon as you buy it... you'll notice a burning hole right where your pocket used to be. The hole and burning sensation will grow in size and intensity the longer you take the product.
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    Originally Posted by emergency View Post
    about 2 weeks in you will start seeing some effects by the 4 th week you will be able to notice Clear Muscle in full swing.
    Forgive the dumb question, but what should we be noticing that would alert us that something is working?
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    I am subbing these logs and will wait to see if this is hype or not. The muscle and strength gains are comparable to steroids which makes me cautious. If anything is too good to be true, it likely is.
    Last edited by Tekstorm; 05-27-2014 at 06:49 PM. Reason: I was incorrect on the serving size.
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