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04-16-2014, 08:20 AM #31
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04-16-2014, 08:20 AM #32
If she could get to Floyd she would probably have a good chance. Only problem is, that can be a pretty big 'if'. Amazing footwork, amazing speed, range, sharp reaction times, enough power, etc.
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04-16-2014, 08:25 AM #33
clearly none. and that's a fair point. however, unless floyd sticks and moves, after 2-3 punches, you're going to end up in a clinch or tied up position. boxing footwork has to be adapted to mma, and floyd's got what? over 20 years of boxing footwork habits drilled into him.
Ronda isn't just a takedown threat from the clinch either. Knees, knees, knees and being able to just be manipulated and thrown off balance and into those strikes. If you haven't ever trained, you really don't understand and will underestimate how thoroughly someone can be dominated if they don't know what they are doing, even by someone much smaller.Deathstroke and I list our most hilariously awful WCW moments (lots of gifs & vids; expect load time):
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04-16-2014, 08:31 AM #34
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Ronda doesn't walk-through or simply take 2-3 punches from a pro-boxer and end up in a clinch with anything but the mat. It doesn't seem like you've watched many of Floyd's fights... he is great at hitting his opponents and getting out of their reach. Those opponents are much quicker than Ronda will ever be. Seriously, I can't picture Ronda as anything more than a punching bag for Floyd unless rules for this mythical bout dictated that the fight starts on the ground.
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04-16-2014, 08:38 AM #35
Floyd is pretty much goat at sticking and moving tho. But I don't see that lasting very long for Honda. Shed get caught hard, realize she can't take too many more rights or hooks, and go into desperation mode just to get Floyd to the ground. That's probably her best chance, but at the same time, thats one of Floyd's strengths aswell, countering and catching people coming in.
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04-16-2014, 08:44 AM #36Deathstroke and I list our most hilariously awful WCW moments (lots of gifs & vids; expect load time):
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04-16-2014, 08:48 AM #37
He doesn't fight with that style too much anymore. Now he bewilders more with his defense, set ups, and countering. The octagon helps fighters with movement more than the ring does, but Floyd would still have to adjust to fighting under completely different rules where people can attack you with techniques other than punches.
Wouldn't you concede that unless Floyd finishes her or has her seriously, seriously hurt as Ronda goes to close the disntance, Ronda gets ahold of him,gets it to the mat, and Floyd would get tapped?Deathstroke and I list our most hilariously awful WCW moments (lots of gifs & vids; expect load time):
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04-16-2014, 08:50 AM #38
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04-16-2014, 08:57 AM #39
True, and while he is getting older, I think that that is more a matter of choice, than it is inability.
Yeah, if she actually got to Floyd than I'd think she would have the advantage with her judo and ground skills.
I think the heart of this issue revolves around Honda being a girl, and a girl who has rather weak standup. If it was a guy, then Floyd would inevitably be screwed. But.....how much punishment can a girl take from a guy?Last edited by SpiritFighter; 04-16-2014 at 08:59 AM.
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04-16-2014, 09:08 AM #40
Obviously while different (in this case athletes of similar sizes, but opposite sex and different combat sports), I've just got to point out that a lot of this discussion reminds me a ton of the "could Demetryius Johnson have a chance against X pro football player" arguments.
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04-16-2014, 09:17 AM #41
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Why the hell do ppl talk about this fight? Its a guy against a female. Won't ever happen but I kinda wish it would now just cause its talked about every week. Hell if Floyd took the fight and Rhonda did win then that'd be pretty devastating for boxing as a whole even if it is an MMA fight knowing that a girl beat the greatest boxer currently
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04-16-2014, 09:38 AM #42
what I dont get, is why people think that even IF she SOMEHOW closed the distance, clinched, and threw him, that Money wouldn't be able to scramble and get to his feet? Homeboy is obviously beyond athletic, definitely more athletic than the sloots Honda fights (yet some of them have shown the ability to get up after a throw), but people think she would just pin him. Brb fast twitch muscle fibers of peace.
also, take a look at overeem vs wedum. werdum couldn't get the fight to ground. why? because Overeem didn't want it to go there. Overeem didn't accomplish this by demonstrating insane TDD, he simply kept his distance, and refused to engage in a clinch/grappling session.
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04-16-2014, 10:13 AM #44
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so the best pro boxers can't touch floyd but some girl that only knows how to arm bar and got rocked by tate is somehow going to eat punches from one of the best boxers of all time, clinch, and arm bar him? lol strong potatoes in this thread
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04-16-2014, 10:17 AM #45Deathstroke and I list our most hilariously awful WCW moments (lots of gifs & vids; expect load time):
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04-16-2014, 10:36 AM #46
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How could she take him down? And even if she did by getting his legs or something, he's at least 2x as strong as her (maybe even more) and outweighs her to boot. How could she possible control him long enough to arm bar him? Also (non-MMA brah here) couldn't he power out of an armbar? No idea, just asking.
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04-16-2014, 10:39 AM #47
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04-16-2014, 10:40 AM #48
Ronda would lose
It's phucking mind blowing that no one in the womens divison has won against her. Literally all you have to do is circle away from the cage, maintain distance and strike from the outside.
The idea that one of the GOAT boxers, with MALE strength advantage wouldn't be able to just circle and jab the phuck out of her, is ridiculous.
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04-16-2014, 10:49 AM #49
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Using someone's weight against them. Also strength wouldn't matter against someone who has way more experience. And if he did try to scramble not knowing what he was doing he might just give her an easy submission or just get her in a better position.
Strength means nothing in judo/BJJ if the other person is way more experienced.
But this is all irrelevant cause I don't see her getting close enough without taking a shot that would knock her back or down. I think Tate and Mcmann each got a good shot in before Rousey even got a chance to clinch and they're nowhere near Maywhethers level in striking. Not even remotely close.Forgot to train biceps crew
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04-16-2014, 11:22 AM #50
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04-16-2014, 11:27 AM #51
Rogan just says a lot of dumbsh!t. I use to like him but after years of listening to his horrible commentary and the stupid sh!t he says I could never take him seriously anymore. We are talking about a man vs woman match here. First off the sh!t isn't fair two different strengths here. 2nd Floyd is too fast too strong and is a legit athlete. She wouldn't be able to get the clinch on floyd. Rogans a idiot and says she keep her hands up well guess what dumbass she'll go down from body shots. It's a strong man hitting a woman.
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04-16-2014, 11:34 AM #52
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04-16-2014, 11:46 AM #53
trying to power out of an expert armbar like Rouseys = broken arm.
This is a pretty silly discussion, but if she closed the distance without going night night and got her hands on a boxer, she would very likely break his arm. No way a untrained fighter is getting out of one of her submissions.For every man, there is a sentence, a string of words, that has the power to destroy him
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04-16-2014, 11:51 AM #54
If she was able to take him down and get on him before he could get back (big if), he would be done for. But I doubt she could close the distance enough to take him down before getting KOed by him.
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04-16-2014, 11:57 AM #55
The match that incident led to was very good performance by Mayweather. Not sure why he didn't pull that punch more though tbh. He's actually a fan and respecter of what WWE wrestler's do. Oddly so does ROnda (got her name from Piper, is tight with Gene LeBell and watches the PPV's and tweets her impressions on the matches) maybe they should meet in a WWE ring for a show?!!!
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04-16-2014, 11:59 AM #56
Ronda would have to try and outsmart Floyd. She could leave a diamond-encrusted gi jacket with dollar signs and "MONEY TEAM" sewn in lying around, which Floyd would inevitably try on. If she surprised him at that moment, her grips might be enough to toss him
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04-16-2014, 12:02 PM #57
Joe Rogan is still smoking crack apparently. Really absurd.
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04-16-2014, 12:07 PM #58
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Ronda Slootsey has not been HIT before. All the previous sloots she has fought are garbage. She'll get KO'd by Cyborg then all this stupid talk about fighting a guy will disappear, just like her career and that fuarkin cloud 9 shes riding. Someone bring this bitch back to reality. Remember what happened when Lesnars chin got touched by a REAL striker? And what's in it for Floyd? Say he does KO her then what? Everyone will bash him for hitting a girl. She'll start some womens movement bs regarding men hitting women. If she beats him he gets bashed for losing to a girl. And she'll go on and on bragging about beating the top boxer blah blah Rogan will ride her cawk as well. I like Rogans podcast and all that chit, but he rides cawk way too much for these UFC *******s.
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04-16-2014, 02:18 PM #59
Anyone who picked Ronda in this thread should never speak again. Seriously, sew your mouth shut, tape your fingers together and never attempt to communicate another thought to the outside world again. You are beyond potato. You are actually a danger and hindrance to normal people.
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