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    Originally Posted by RoadPigJohn View Post
    Well in that case I have no clue about this product you are promoting. Myostatin inibitors were market in the past back in the 2000 (Myo-Blast CSP3 by Cytodyne's) with the super muscular caw and stuff but at the end, the results from it were not as advertise. Maybe your company nail the real deal in this category...

    Here is the link of the old advertisement from the magazines about it.

    http://www.sruonline.com/index.php?id=myo-blast

    Did you even read the first post ITT

    Some of you maybe remember the great excitement, a decade or so ago, caused by an alleged Myostatin inhibitor found in an algae (Cystoseira canariensis).
    You likely also remember countless of furious users who fired their money on those (also very expensive) products.
    No surprise. After ingestion, it gets totally degraded and nothing reaches the systemic circulation...hence, zero effect.
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    Originally Posted by RoadPigJohn View Post
    Well in that case I have no clue about this product you are promoting. Myostatin inibitors were market in the past back in the 2000 (Myo-Blast CSP3 by Cytodyne's) with the super muscular caw and stuff but at the end, the results from it were not as advertise. Maybe your company nail the real deal in this category...

    Here is the link of the old advertisement from the magazines about it.

    http://www.sruonline.com/index.php?id=myo-blast
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    Very excited for this product. Have done a few runs of bioforge and looking forward to something new

    Wasn't this supposed to come out May 2014?? Company's website is still showing reserve sign up.

    The Huge.. any insight as to when this will be released sir?
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    Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post
    Did you even read the first post ITT
    I was just wondering the same....wow.

    Originally Posted by arglebargle916 View Post
    Very excited for this product. Have done a few runs of bioforge and looking forward to something new

    Wasn't this supposed to come out May 2014?? Company's website is still showing reserve sign up.

    The Huge.. any insight as to when this will be released sir?
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    I wish I knew. We're currently facing something much more urgent and far from funny
    Hope all is well.
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    Hope all is well.
    X2, Biotivia is one of the best companies around. Hope to see these new products on the market soon!
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    Originally Posted by RoadPigJohn View Post
    Well in that case I have no clue about this product you are promoting. Myostatin inibitors were market in the past back in the 2000 (Myo-Blast CSP3 by Cytodyne's) with the super muscular caw and stuff but at the end, the results from it were not as advertise. Maybe your company nail the real deal in this category...

    Here is the link of the old advertisement from the magazines about it.

    http://www.sruonline.com/index.php?id=myo-blast

    I have used an Epi based product, not this one, but I can tell you first hand, it wasn't bs, it's not going to put 10lbs of LBM on you over 1 bottle, but I definitely leaned out, and put on some decent size while using it, I wanted to keep it going more than 1 30 day bottle , but said product seems to keep selling out when I go to make an order... I also starting taking it an hour pwo, and had some phenomenal workouts on it!
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    Originally Posted by thelast10 View Post
    I have used an Epi based product, not this one, but I can tell you first hand, it wasn't bs, it's not going to put 10lbs of LBM on you over 1 bottle, but I definitely leaned out, and put on some decent size while using it, I wanted to keep it going more than 1 30 day bottle , but said product seems to keep selling out when I go to make an order... I also starting taking it an hour pwo, and had some phenomenal workouts on it!
    The real question is how does this product compare to other epi products ( inb4 you cant compare any of them because its not just epi )? Seems between this and its competitors, epi is getting pulled every which way.
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    Originally Posted by NasRenegade View Post
    The real question is how does this product compare to other epi products ( inb4 you cant compare any of them because its not just epi )? Seems between this and its competitors, epi is getting pulled every which way.
    INB4 I prove your comment wrong, because the product I tried was JUST EPI, and an inactive filler.... So it was indeed trying out just pure EPI, not a mix of random ingredients thrown in with it...
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    Originally Posted by thelast10 View Post
    INB4 I prove your comment wrong, because the product I tried was JUST EPI, and an inactive filler.... So it was indeed trying out just pure EPI, not a mix of random ingredients thrown in with it...
    Actually, the only thing you did was confirm the product you used; when I said "inb4 you cant compare..." I was using it for the fact that Heracles does not only have Epi, so 99% percent of people will deem it incomparable to ANY product. The reason I quoted you was because you have taken a different epi product, hence the second sentence. Good job "proving" nothing though.
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    First off my condolence`s I am a long time biotivia costumer and got this terrible news. Three weeks ago, James suffered a tragic accident at his vacation home in Spain. The accident caused severe head trauma and James fell into a deep coma from which he did not recover. James’ brain function ceased and he passed away recently.

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    That is awful to hear

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    Originally Posted by NasRenegade View Post
    The real question is how does this product compare to other epi products ( inb4 you cant compare any of them because its not just epi )? Seems between this and its competitors, epi is getting pulled every which way.
    Your statement INB4 it's not just epi, was proven wrong because the product used was just epi. I said INB4 because you did, but who says that if it

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    Actually, the only thing you did was confirm the product you used; when I said "inb4 you cant compare..." I was using it for the fact that Heracles does not only have Epi, so 99% percent of people will deem it incomparable to ANY product. The reason I quoted you was because you have taken a different epi product, hence the second sentence. Good job "proving" nothing though.
    I said INB4 because you did, but who says that unless their in the misc section? (the INB4 bs), anyways from experience pure epi works, and with this tragic incident, it seems like Heracles won't be out in the near future... I could be wrong, just speculating.
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    Originally Posted by thelast10 View Post
    Your statement INB4 it's not just epi, was proven wrong because the product used was just epi. I said INB4 because you did, but who says that if it



    I said INB4 because you did, but who says that unless their in the misc section? (the INB4 bs), anyways from experience pure epi works, and with this tragic incident, it seems like Heracles won't be out in the near future... I could be wrong, just speculating.
    In the interest of not wasting my time anymore and not derailing this thread, this will be my last post on the matter. The product I was talking about in my first and second post was NOT the product of another company ( BLR ). The product I was talking about was Heracles. Heracles is the product that does not ONLY have epi, hence the portion I wrote in parenthesis. The "its not just epi" portion again, was directed at Heracles. Again, the only reason I quoted you, is because you used BLRs product and not Biotivias, hence the how does this product, HERACLES, compare to other epi products. Now youve also proven that your reading comprehension is that of a six year old.
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    Originally Posted by NasRenegade View Post
    In the interest of not wasting my time anymore and not derailing this thread, this will be my last post on the matter. The product I was talking about in my first and second post was NOT the product of another company ( BLR ). The product I was talking about was Heracles. Heracles is the product that does not ONLY have epi, hence the portion I wrote in parenthesis. The "its not just epi" portion again, was directed at Heracles. Again, the only reason I quoted you, is because you used BLRs product and not Biotivias, hence the how does this product, HERACLES, compare to other epi products. Now youve also proven that your reading comprehension is that of a six year old.
    My original statement was in response to someone saying epi is another myostatin hoax, I said I have used epi, and it works, you said you can compare them because it's not just epi? (you put a ? in there), anyways in some aspects your rite about me not being able to compare them (this product and the one I took) because as you stated all other companies have thrown in additional ingredients... The reason I responded to you saying you can't compare, was me thinking you were saying what I took wasn't just Epi, thus saying I have no real way of comparing epi to previous Myostatin products. It is what it is, I don't feel like going back and forth, especially with such sad news that was brought in the past week. So you were correct, and so was I, depending on what context you look at.
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    Originally Posted by roadscapone View Post
    First off my condolence`s I am a long time biotivia costumer and got this terrible news. Three weeks ago, James suffered a tragic accident at his vacation home in Spain. The accident caused severe head trauma and James fell into a deep coma from which he did not recover. James’ brain function ceased and he passed away recently.

    As you can understand, the entire Biotivia team is in shock. James founded Biotivia and spent years working tirelessly to research and develop the most advanced and highest quality anti-aging treatments in the world.
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    Rest In Peace, James. My condolences to his friends, family and all of those affiliated with Biotivia.
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    That is awful to hear

    My condolences to the Biotivia team, as well as James' friends and family.
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    Wow that is terrible. Wish the best to everyone affected by this.
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    My prayers with you Daniel.
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    Sorry to hear about this. All the best to his family, friends and everybody at Biotivia.
    Thanks for your words guys.

    I've lost a friend. James was a true gentleman. A brother of mine. I miss you homeboy.
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    Thanks for your words guys.

    I've lost a friend. James was a true gentleman. A brother of mine. I miss you homeboy.
    He's at peace.
    I've been wronged by that super dirty son of a bitch dazed" crew.
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    @ THEHUGE - not sure if you can really comment on, but do you think Heracles is a no go now? I know on Biotivia's website they took it down as well as the other two upcoming products (NAD+ and Mito). Once again, I understand if you cannot comment on.
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    My condolences. That is just awful.
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    He's at peace.
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    @ THEHUGE - not sure if you can really comment on, but do you think Heracles is a no go now? I know on Biotivia's website they took it down as well as the other two upcoming products (NAD+ and Mito). Once again, I understand if you cannot comment on.
    Well, Heracles was/is an idea of mine (like Mito and BioForge too). Since we don't even know whether we're still together or not...
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    Well, Heracles was/is an idea of mine (like Mito and BioForge too). Since we don't even know whether we're still together or not...
    Egad! I reckon if you and Biotivia unfortunately part ways, we may possibly see your supplement ideas come to fruition somewhere else? I wish you all the best, good sir. You've always been great to us.
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    Egad! I reckon if you and Biotivia unfortunately part ways, we may possibly see your supplement ideas come to fruition somewhere else? I wish you all the best, good sir. You've always been great to us.
    You bet. Still so many intriguing projects, so many rabbits to pull out of my hat.

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    Originally Posted by THEHUGE View Post
    You bet. Still so many intriguing projects, so many rabbits to pull out of my hat.

    Your words mean a lot to me, thank you.
    I just stumbled upon this thread looking up -(-)epicatechin products... I do not know you, nor James who you spoke of, but I'm really sorry to hear about him passing. His memory will live on. Helen Keller said something along the lines of, "As long as the memory of our beloved friends lives in our hearts, I shall say that life is good."

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    I'm no longer affiliated with Biotivia in any way. I'm on the market again.
    I'm no longer involved in raw materials sourcing, testing and products formulation.

    Everything is changing in the company.

    I can't take responsibility for new batches potency, purity and proper dosing.

    Sorry fellas.
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