question on Keto + IF

[pyra]

Hi guys.
I am looking at starting a Keto + IF diet and have a few questions.
I have read over blindfaiths post and got the basics but a few things I couldn't find (or may have been blind) are
Is it a good idea taking L-carnatine as a supplement? As its basic function is what Keto does anyway.
Also I read somewhere a while ago taking xtend bcaa's knocks you out of ketosis? Is that true? While my main goal is hitting my target bodyweight before bulking the majority of excercise I did to lose the first 35kg was mainly weight lifting and would prefer to not go into a catabolic state and lose it all.

And is cream okay to use while on this diet? As some people say milk is a no no. Is that only due to the carbs present?

Looking at 18/6 IF as it fits into my work hours annd I generally dont eat until about 4 in the afternoon anyway.

So an example day (nutrition etc isn't with me so I can't give any values)
6- wake up and take L-carnatine

4pm- bullet coffee

8pm- cauliflower rice and chicken, mushroom and spinach with a chilli cream sauce.
10pm - spinach, parmesan and bacon with oil/dressing

I am looking at about 1000kcal deficit so the three meals will make that up.

[necon76]

Cream is fine, so is IF. If you get more than about 150g of protein every day bcaa's are pointless. Wouldn't bother with carnitine either.

[pyra]

The Carnitine I already had sitting at home so I figured I may as well use it if it is beneficial in any way shape or form.
And as per Blinds post my protein intake is at 152g
But factoring in working out (3-5 days a week) would that still be enough to prevent a huge amount of muscle loss?

[xJellyBirdx]

Muscle loss largely comes from malnutrition or an absurdly low protein intake. Doubt either one of these will happen to you but its possible. Prefer not to go into a catabolic state? You're cutting, you're going to go catabolic. Ditch the supplements unless you've already paid for them. They are largely a waste of money.

[weiss1967]

Milk, whipping cream, half-half - either one or their mixture is okay, there are some carbs but if you track them there shouldn't be a problem.

IF works fine with keto, but I am a little worried about 18/6, way too aggressive IMO. Even 16/8 is difficult and not very sustainable over time, especially if we are talking 1000 calories deficit, which on its own is beyond reasonable too. But this is all something you will learn on your own. You have all the components for spectacular failure IMO.

[hfce354]

Hi guys.
I am looking at starting a Keto + IF diet and have a few questions.
I have read over blindfaiths post and got the basics but a few things I couldn't find (or may have been blind) are
Is it a good idea taking L-carnatine as a supplement? As its basic function is what Keto does anyway.
Also I read somewhere a while ago taking xtend bcaa's knocks you out of ketosis? Is that true? While my main goal is hitting my target bodyweight before bulking the majority of excercise I did to lose the first 35kg was mainly weight lifting and would prefer to not go into a catabolic state and lose it all.

And is cream okay to use while on this diet? As some people say milk is a no no. Is that only due to the carbs present?

Looking at 18/6 IF as it fits into my work hours annd I generally dont eat until about 4 in the afternoon anyway.

So an example day (nutrition etc isn't with me so I can't give any values)
6- wake up and take L-carnatine

4pm- bullet coffee

8pm- cauliflower rice and chicken, mushroom and spinach with a chilli cream sauce.
10pm - spinach, parmesan and bacon with oil/dressing

I am looking at about 1000kcal deficit so the three meals will make that up.

I do something similar and have had the sickest results of my life. I do 20/4 fitting weights in between 2 meals at night. High fat Low carb. Food staples are steak, almonds, whey protein concentrate, coconot oil/MCT oil, avocodo, grass fed butter, 100% dark chocolate, etc...

[pyra]

Milk, whipping cream, half-half - either one or their mixture is okay, there are some carbs but if you track them there shouldn't be a problem.

IF works fine with keto, but I am a little worried about 18/6, way too aggressive IMO. Even 16/8 is difficult and not very sustainable over time, especially if we are talking 1000 calories deficit, which on its own is beyond reasonable too. But this is all something you will learn on your own. You have all the components for spectacular failure IMO.

I am choosing those as they seem attainable and I have read that people can do it. And I don't plan on sustaining it over a long period of time as I agree it is aggressive. But I generally don't eat during the day at work anyway. So I am basically following my normal eating patterns, just following a guideline with my meals instead of what I normally eat. And if the deficit is too much I drop it back.