Atheists: refute me on this point

[Jizmeister]

In my "argument" (I don't even consider this an argument, more of a statement) I'm not going to use the word God, or quote from the Bible or anything of the sort - I'm just going to explain my situation as it is.

Every single day I wake up in the morning thankful and grateful that I live in a first world country, drink clean water, eat every day, have a job, have a home and above all - have good health. This is not a "those poor suckers don't have what I have" argument - this is a genuine, heartfelt appreciation and thankfulness for me to be chosen to be born into the circumstances I am in.

Every day when I go to sleep I'm thankful for another day to have passed without incident. I didn't have a car accident, I didn't trip and hit my head or otherwise endanger my life or health.

The bottom line is I'm appreciative to whatever it is in the universe that put me in exactly this body in exactly these circumstances, whether it be nature, science, evolution, call it whatever you want, but I thank whatever that force is wholeheartedly.

/rant

[lethalmental]

what's your point?

[TheRealMewt]

So what am I supposed to be refuting here? That you're thankful to be alive as you are?

[whitepaper]

Sad.

[LatinoSlayer91]

I refute your point

your life sucks

[TyGuy505]

so you gonna make a point or just never post itt again after rambling about nothing?

[mgsx]

In my "argument" (I don't even consider this an argument, more of a statement) I'm not going to use the word God, or quote from the Bible or anything of the sort - I'm just going to explain my situation as it is.

Every single day I wake up in the morning thankful and grateful that I live in a first world country, drink clean water, eat every day, have a job, have a home and above all - have good health. This is not a "those poor suckers don't have what I have" argument - this is a genuine, heartfelt appreciation and thankfulness for me to be chosen to be born into the circumstances I am in.

Every day when I go to sleep I'm thankful for another day to have passed without incident. I didn't have a car accident, I didn't trip and hit my head or otherwise endanger my life or health.

The bottom line is I'm appreciative to whatever it is in the universe that put me in exactly this body in exactly these circumstances, whether it be nature, science, evolution, call it whatever you want, but I thank whatever that force is wholeheartedly.

/rant

I'm honestly confused about what your definition of "Atheist" is.

You seriously think we don't appreciate life?

[Jizmeister]

what's your point?

My point is (without actually saying it) - that would be my reason to believe in God.

If I was to phrase the whole post differently I could say "I'm thankful to God and Jesus for everything I have." and the atheist bandwagon would come with their "lol religion" posts so I gave the "argument" from a neutral perspective.

[HeeHee23]

I don't get it. You attribute your good situation to some "force" whether it be god, evolution, chance, flying boobie monster, lord zedd. What do you want atheists to refute?

[MasterMikko]

The bottom line is I'm appreciative to whatever it is in the universe that put me in exactly this body in exactly these circumstances, whether it be nature, science, evolution, call it whatever you want, but I thank whatever that force is wholeheartedly.
/rant

You're primarily appreciative to yourself to manifest your reality and also to your parents for conceiving you. What does this have to do with atheism?

[Caxoo]

That same force created AIDS, just saiyan

[lecarbusier]

the force you are describing is the numerous generations of your ancestors and the hard work they put into a country.

[cux]

My point is (without actually saying it) - that would be my reason to believe in God.

If God hates ****s so much, why did he create OP?

[HeeHee23]

Still nothing really to refute. Nobody knows why we're here. If you choose to attribute to God thats cool, I guess as long as you also acknowledge the possibility that God could be just chance or some evil triceratops squid form the 89th century. Whatever you believe in, if it makes you appreciative and a better person, more power to you.

[lethalmental]

My point is (without actually saying it) - that would be my reason to believe in God.

If I was to phrase the whole post differently I could say "I'm thankful to God and Jesus for everything I have." and the atheist bandwagon would come with their "lol religion" posts so I gave the "argument" from a neutral perspective.

I think many atheists appreciate life just fine. In fact, much more than you average religious folk. They understand there's only one life and that you should make the most out of it.

Religious people are not interested by this life, they're waiting for the other fictitious one. That's the reason why religions were created in the first place, people were suffering and tried to find a reason as to why they were so unfortunate. They concluded that all this must be a test and that there's actually an afterlife where you'd be welcomed if you behaved accordingly to the principles espoused by religious books.

[Jizmeister]

I don't get it. You attribute your good situation to some "force" whether it be god, evolution, chance, flying boobie monster, lord zedd. What do you want atheists to refute?

You can't use the argument of "your parents decided to conceive you and that's why you're where you are." - that's irrelevant.

I COULD have been decided to have experienced life as a starving child in Africa who's parents conceived them too.

Whatever it is in the universe that chose for me to experience life the way I do - I'm thankful to. The word God is a hindrance in this because of the thousands of years of misuse.

[TL314]

An atheist is someone who is certain that God does not exist, someone who has compelling evidence against the existence of God. I know of no such compelling evidence. Because God can be relegated to remote times and places and to ultimate causes, we would have to know a great deal more about the universe than we do now to be sure that no such God exists. To be certain of the existence of God and to be certain of the nonexistence of God seem to me to be the confident extremes in a subject so riddled with doubt and uncertainty as to inspire very little confidence indeed.

-Carl Sagan

[OfficerJimLahey]

religion/politics *******

[mgsx]

You can't use the argument of "your parents decided to conceive you and that's why you're where you are." - that's irrelevant.

I COULD have been decided to have experienced life as a starving child in Africa who's parents conceived them too.

Whatever it is in the universe that chose for me to experience life the way I do - I'm thankful to.

LMAO. So you believe in a god who "chose" for you to be privileged, but also "chose" for kids in africa to starve to death.

Holy chit.

Strong everything.

[Galindo62]

I'm atheist and every breath that is in my lungs is a tiny lift gift to me and everyone around me.

I doubt you appreciate life as much as I do.

[b0d023]

My point is (without actually saying it) - that would be my reason to believe in God.

If I was to phrase the whole post differently I could say "I'm thankful to God and Jesus for everything I have." and the atheist bandwagon would come with their "lol religion" posts so I gave the "argument" from a neutral perspective.

This has very little to do with God and Jesus in my opinion.I think it has more to do with the fact that a dude in a first world country forgot to put a condom on and you happened.

[jmonty]

My point is (without actually saying it) - that would be my reason to believe in God.

If I was to phrase the whole post differently I could say "I'm thankful to God and Jesus for everything I have." and the atheist bandwagon would come with their "lol religion" posts so I gave the "argument" from a neutral perspective.

I wish you would have made a point without actually posting it.

[5htp]

The bottom line is I'm appreciative to whatever it is in the universe that put me in exactly this body in exactly these circumstances, whether it be nature, science, evolution, call it whatever you want, but I thank whatever that force is wholeheartedly./rant

That's lovely and all that, but it makes as much sense as being grateful to the ball on a roulette wheel for landing on the number you had picked beforehand. Or being appreciative of the many asteroids whose trajectories make them not hit our planet. Should a person struck by lightning be personally offended by the thunderclouds which 'chose' to strike him? If you can be grateful to a non-sentient entity then surely you can be angry with it as well, if it harms you...?

Humans love to confer meaning onto empirical reality, and furthermore anthropomorphise natural phenomena such that you can be 'grateful' for their acts or 'angry' with them. If it gives you comfort then knock yourself out, whatever floats your boat obviously. But it is 100% delusion.

[F2.]

God can give you all that but can't spare all the people who die daily in mud slides, earthquakes, car accidents, fire and all the other horrible ways to die? IF there happens to be a god I'll spit in his face and tell him to kiss my @ss when I meet him. There isn't though, so it really doesn't matter.

[lifter960]

Ok OP.

[Milan224]

OK. I'm thankful for everything i have, too. I still believe in science over religion. I'm not atheist, but i couldn't care less about believing in god or jesus or cthulu or zeus or the flying spaghetti monster or whatever. There's nothing to refute here. You're happy, i can't refute that?

[Jizmeister]

LMAO. So you believe in a god who "chose" for you to be privileged, but also "chose" for kids in africa to starve to death.

Holy chit.

Strong everything.

All I said in my post was I'm thankful to something in the Universe that I experience life the way I do.

[MasterMikko]

You can't use the argument of "your parents decided to conceive you and that's why you're where you are." - that's irrelevant.

I COULD have been decided to have experienced life as a starving child in Africa who's parents conceived them too.

Whatever it is in the universe that chose for me to experience life the way I do - I'm thankful to.

How is that irrelevant? The fact that you could have been ended up a child starving in Africa is irrelevant, if anything. Every human that is conceived is experiencing their own reality, including you. You act as if God is deciding what body He puts your consciousness into, which is incorrect. Self awareness isn't predetermined into a human body, it's present by default.

The closest you're gonna get is your parents when it comes to whoever "chose you to experience your life the way you do". They decided to get a child and intended its surroundings and environment to be that which you live right now (or something close to that). Same goes for the starving child in Africa.

[mgsx]

All I said in my post was I'm thankful to something in the Universe that I experience life the way I do.

You're thankful to the same force that causes millions of children to die of starvation because it "chose" to put them in that situation.

[Neceseco]

I do almost the same thing you do. I thank Fortune though.