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    Originally Posted by Woody-5 View Post
    I plan on gaining +10 pounds over thanksgiving weekend
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    Originally Posted by Sen8or View Post
    Was wondering why your old journal stopped updating, better late than never I guess?

    Some good weights on front squats and back squats coming along nicely too.

    Did u get a belt? (Sorry, skim read the last page or so) recently got one myself, best $50 I've spent I reckon, back is soo much better after OHP, squats and deads.
    Yeah I really am not helping myself by not getting one. What belt did you decide to buy?

    Originally Posted by Woody-5 View Post
    Sick squats dude! Anxious to see you bust through 200!
    Bench and rows looking solid as well.
    MOar calories FTW! I plan on gaining +10 pounds over thanksgiving weekend
    Thanks man, I am very hopeful this will happen!

    Race to see who can gain the most weight on Thursday?!

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    ^^^ Lightweight!
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    Weight: 176.0, 174.4
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    Workout B

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    3x5 0

    Incline Bench

    1x10 45
    1x5 45
    1x5 65
    1x2 95
    1x2 115
    3x5 130

    RDL

    3x8 0

    Strict Chins

    1x7 BW
    1x6 BW
    1x5 BW

    Calf Raises

    2x15 0

    Skull Crusher

    2x11 60

    Summary:

    I am still having a little trouble with my lower back/left glutes. Mostly in a concentrated area high right side of my left glute with some slight numbness in my lower back. I am treading lightly here with this type of soreness because I know what this can lead to the last time I had this problem I was out of the gym for 4 months because I didn’t pay attention. So with that in mind I skipped anything that I thought would be serious pressure on that specific area which took out all legs today.

    Not much to say about this session given the above mentioned issues. I just need to hit more mobility drills and see if I can work myself out of it before Wednesday’s squat session. With that in mind if warmups don’t feel right I am not pushing 205 and risking that injury.
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    Try taking a foam roller/lax ball to the muscle next to your spine at the very bottom of your ribcage. It's a common QL/erector trigger point that can refer that type of mild pain down your back.
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    ^^what he said. I really am not familiar with glute mobility issues personally.


    Although i will say, your upper body chins/ incline bench look good!
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    Originally Posted by unstrong View Post
    Try taking a foam roller/lax ball to the muscle next to your spine at the very bottom of your ribcage. It's a common QL/erector trigger point that can refer that type of mild pain down your back.
    Interesting that you mention that the mild irritation has conveniently traveled to almost that exact spot that you mentioned. Will work on this after work today.

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    ^^what he said. I really am not familiar with glute mobility issues personally.


    Although i will say, your upper body chins/ incline bench look good!
    It's a funny spot, glutes require a little more intense direct pressure to work out the "knots" usually, lacrosse ball works well while sitting in a chair just kind of work around in a circle on either side.

    I didn't really push this session at all I could have had a few more reps on chins but left some in the tank. At that point I was still debating FS and RDL attempts, I also forgot to put Lat PD's in my list.
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    Brand of belt I got was a local one "iron power" a house brand so to speak of the local fitness store (made in China pretty sure), but it's the powerlifting kind, similar width all the way round, 2 prong buckle. Seems to do the job well.

    Taking it ease and sorting out whatever is going on is the best thing though, maybe a visit to an osteopath or chiropractor
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    Originally Posted by Sen8or View Post
    Brand of belt I got was a local one "iron power" a house brand so to speak of the local fitness store (made in China pretty sure), but it's the powerlifting kind, similar width all the way round, 2 prong buckle. Seems to do the job well.

    Taking it ease and sorting out whatever is going on is the best thing though, maybe a visit to an osteopath or chiropractor
    Interesting, I really need to make this purchase. I have been debating this for a while and just haven't spent the money.

    I would love to go get checked out but I dropped my cobra and wont have Health Ins. until the beginning of next year.
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    Originally Posted by HunterMC6 View Post
    Interesting that you mention that the mild irritation has conveniently traveled to almost that exact spot that you mentioned. Will work on this after work today.



    It's a funny spot, glutes require a little more intense direct pressure to work out the "knots" usually, lacrosse ball works well while sitting in a chair just kind of work around in a circle on either side.

    I didn't really push this session at all I could have had a few more reps on chins but left some in the tank. At that point I was still debating FS and RDL attempts, I also forgot to put Lat PD's in my list.



    Thats more than enough pushing (incline bench).

    And the fact that you can do that many chins with some enrgy left in the tank is good. Have you considered buying additional weight for chins?
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    Originally Posted by VmissileX View Post
    Thats more than enough pushing (incline bench).

    And the fact that you can do that many chins with some enrgy left in the tank is good. Have you considered buying additional weight for chins?
    I have a weighted dipping belt but my chins just haven't moved much so I haven't even considered adding weight yet. I wanted to hit 3x10 BW before moving some additional weight into the equation but I may have to reconsider given the plateau I have hit.
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    My back is all in a knot today, I did a lot of stretching/mobilizing yesterday and I might have over done it a bit. I tried to lay on my foam roller this morning and putting pressure on my left side Lat upper area hurt so bad I couldn't even lift my butt off the ground to put any pressure on it. It's the weirdest sensation because as far as pushing/pulling I feel perfectly fine. lower back is still off a bit, and I have some **** going on with my right hand, I think the slightly angled pull up bar that I am using at the gym isn't doing much for my grip.

    With that being said, I am going to take a few days and just forego any gym activities. Just going to do my stretches and stuff my face. Hoping to come back maybe this weekend and just hit a few exercises and see how things feel. Right now I just feel horrible I think a few extra rest days will do some good and I can come back refreshed.
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    My back is all in a knot today, I did a lot of stretching/mobilizing yesterday and I might have over done it a bit. I tried to lay on my foam roller this morning and putting pressure on my left side Lat upper area hurt so bad I couldn't even lift my butt off the ground to put any pressure on it. It's the weirdest sensation because as far as pushing/pulling I feel perfectly fine. lower back is still off a bit, and I have some **** going on with my right hand, I think the slightly angled pull up bar that I am using at the gym isn't doing much for my grip.

    With that being said, I am going to take a few days and just forego any gym activities. Just going to do my stretches and stuff my face. Hoping to come back maybe this weekend and just hit a few exercises and see how things feel. Right now I just feel horrible I think a few extra rest days will do some good and I can come back refreshed.
    I've done this before. You should feel much better tomorrow or the day after. BUT be careful to sit and sleep with decent posture, because chances are that's what's causing the issues in the first place.
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    Hope the back loosens up for you! A nice turkey induced coma might help tomorrow
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    I've done this before. You should feel much better tomorrow or the day after. BUT be careful to sit and sleep with decent posture, because chances are that's what's causing the issues in the first place.
    I am well aware I work at a desk too much now so I have "computer posture" while sitting. I have just gotten way out of sync with my workouts and was pushing to try to get them lined up with my regular days again. I think I was putting too much pressure on myself, this is probably the one big downfall of a A/B program where there is a repeat day. If you have to skip or miss a day it is hard to get things back on track without skipping the day all together and I don't think that is helpful either.

    Going to relax for the next couple days, gym hours are not good and I will be out of town for a few days. Probably go in this weekend hit some lighter weights to see how things feel and proceed to hit a normal week next week. Starting with day A

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    Hope the back loosens up for you! A nice turkey induced coma might help tomorrow
    Have a great thanksgiving dude!
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    Merry Christmas Hunter, I hope everything is going good with you.
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    Originally Posted by MainelyMan View Post
    Merry Christmas Hunter, I hope everything is going good with you.
    Thanks man hope your holidays were fun!

    For those who still sub to this, I will be back to logging soon. I went through a stage of just complete neglect of my lifting habits, nutrition, mobility and on down the line. I have no excuse so I attribute all of it to laziness. I'm going to set up some things a little differently for myself personally as a way to hold myself more accountable. More on that later but I will still run F5 when I haul my ass back into the gym most likely next week.

    I have been struggling with that headache/jaw pain issue yet again which is extremely uncomfortable and doesn't allow me to eat anything that isn't in the form of liquid or mush, today is the first day it has felt better in over a week so things might be looking up.

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    Been on a hiatus, last logged session was the last time I stepped foot into the gym. I know it was before Thanksgiving and I was going to take a little time off to allow my back to get back into prime workout condition. Big mistake as I completely fell off the wagon. Stopped watching my nutritional intake, stopped lifting, mobility routine went down the ****ter along with my will to do much of anything. I played video games again for the first time in maybe 4 years . It was kind of nice to come home after work and not do **** but it shows. So I have put on some fluff am completely unconditioned and overall very upset with myself and the way I have let things slip for too long. Got to pick myself up and get going again.

    For those of you who have followed me from the beginning (I think this only applies to Woody) My first log was back in 2012 I have probably been one of the worst cases of spinning my wheels of anyone on this forum. I have had the usual bumps in the road with jobs and moving etc but it always ends with me taking months on end of time off. Somehow I have to break myself of these silly habits and put in some solid effort and stay with the program (literally). Really no one can hold me accountable except me and it’s time to do that. I have decided that I need to changes up my thought process on what I am trying to achieve before I can really get there. I never had a clear cut goal I just go to the gym and work hard and hope things fall into place at some point. After all it is just a hobby but even hobbies are hard to stick with if you don’t have a destination.

    I have set a different goal structure for myself as a way of competing against myself all the time. I don’t know if I will post it up here unless I find it is working out incredibly well and could be of use to others but for now it will remain on paper.

    There are a couple things I Wanted to put out for opinion though.

    • Since I put on a lot of fat (thank you holiday food and general couch potato attitude) I am going to start out by keeping my calories somewhere just below what I think is maintenance. I don’t know exactly where that is but to begin I am setting my target at 2,200.
    • Calories will remain at 2,200 for this week and next. After that I will bring them up by 100 every week. Not sure if this will help shed a little fat while helping me figure out my maintenance calories or not, is this a bad idea?
    • I am going to start out with my weights fairly low since I will be “cutting” (maybe if 2,200 is actually below maintenance)
    • Many of us don’t do cardio but I am probably going to put some into my routine, is there any argument for avoiding this entirely?

    On with the show, still running Fierce 5 as I stated before, using this week to test where I think my main lifts are at after the layoff and then I will take it from there with full workouts next week. Shooting for weigh ins 4 days a week.

    Fierce 5
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    Weight: Didn’t even think about it this morning (oops)
    Calories 2,200

    Workout A

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    Fail

    Squat

    1x10 45
    1x5 45
    1x5 65
    1x5 85
    1x5 105
    1x5 125
    1x5 135

    Starting here for 3x5

    Bench

    1x10 45
    1x5 45
    1x5 65
    1x5 85
    1x5 105
    1x5 125
    1x5 135

    I am going to begin at 125, might jump 10lbs on the first week or two, form was sloppy but it usually improves fast on bench and then the weights feel too easy.

    Pendlay Rows

    1x8 45
    1x8 65
    1x8 85
    1x8 95

    Seems like a good starting sport

    Calf Raises

    1x15 135
    1x15 185

    I could actually go up on this a touch but this might be a good place to begin until I get my conditioning back, high reps on any lift are going to destroy me right now.

    Summary:

    As expected my lifts are all weak, squat I think I could push it a little more but if I start off too heavy after 6 or 7 weeks off I am just going to hinder my progress overall and that lift in particular catches up to me quickly so maybe with some lighter starting weights I can get some decent progress out of my first run back on this program. Will do the same things Thursday for Day B to get some starting weights. Will likely get in for a cardio session and I want to get in a nice long mobility session as well before I begin the real work next week.

    Not that this is surprising but I am pulling out of all “races” to focus on my self more than anything and I am so far behind it will be impossible to catch up at this point.

    On the plus side no one in Indiana must set losing weight or getting shredded as their resolution goals. I went in the gym directly after work at 5 and there was maybe 10 cars in the parking lot, 3 of which were employees and only 4 people including me lifting, and one of them was either the manager or the owner I haven’t figured it out yet.

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    the openness is appreciated. You've got a plan of action, I'll be looking forward to your upcoming progress
    you're still gonna have my bench beat in a month of two lol

    Cardio is not an issue unless it beats heavily into your recovery. I wouldn't recommend HIIT as detrained as you are but moderate or light cardio is fine
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    Dude! I've been there. Gym absences take a while to catch up from. Your always gonna 'switch off' at some point, but you've gotta get in and train at least once a week when the motivation is gone. Easier said than done I know.

    I made a decision about a year ago, after an absence, that I couldn't allow myself to keep throwing away what I'd worked so hard for. It's OUR progress. We need to own that permanently. It's not easy, I had a bad month last month but I got in a few times, sorted my head out and I'm motivated again. The forum helps too.

    Stick with it man, the good news is it comes back quick. I'm all in favour of cardio too. I love my boxing so I just do that, but if I didn't do that I'd probably be doing some crossfit, HIIT or something.
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    Originally Posted by davisj3537 View Post
    Sounds like a good attitude for results. Consistency is key for results with nearly anything.
    It is I can prove that for 3 months or so and then it falls off and all the gains go away. Got to make sure to change that, I have no excuses now holidays are over I live 3 minutes from my gym, work is only 8 minutes from my gym. Hardest part will be keeping up with the nutrition goals, still have holiday candy lingering around but everything in moderation.

    Originally Posted by GinjaNinja85 View Post
    Dude! I've been there. Gym absences take a while to catch up from. Your always gonna 'switch off' at some point, but you've gotta get in and train at least once a week when the motivation is gone. Easier said than done I know.

    I made a decision about a year ago, after an absence, that I couldn't allow myself to keep throwing away what I'd worked so hard for. It's OUR progress. We need to own that permanently. It's not easy, I had a bad month last month but I got in a few times, sorted my head out and I'm motivated again. The forum helps too.

    Stick with it man, the good news is it comes back quick. I'm all in favour of cardio too. I love my boxing so I just do that, but if I didn't do that I'd probably be doing some crossfit, HIIT or something.
    I found out that there is a boxing gym here, my co-worker told me about it not sure where it is but I might just have to go check it out and see if I can get a few lessons if the price is right. Other than that I am going to start with some light cardio just to get into the grove and try not to beat myself down too much while I start out my routine again. Thanks for keeping up with my journal man much appreciated! Hope you had a good holiday season!

    Originally Posted by connorpat1995 View Post
    the openness is appreciated. You've got a plan of action, I'll be looking forward to your upcoming progress
    you're still gonna have my bench beat in a month of two lol

    Cardio is not an issue unless it beats heavily into your recovery. I wouldn't recommend HIIT as detrained as you are but moderate or light cardio is fine
    Bench has always been a good lift for me in comparison to everything else. Will end up just doing some rowing or light running on the treadmill to start. I would like to get into some calisthenics at some point there is a few setups for that in my gym.
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    lol, nowhere near too many characters for one post.

    Do the cardio, just don't push it very often. Perhaps go for the kind of that has you feeling better after you do it than you did before (once you get past the first week or two of getting used to doing it). Do you have a heart rate monitor?

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    Way to let it all out. Also, definitely not TL;DR. You're being honest with yourself, which is good, now the key is to make sure that you have something to keep you interested and committed, which you also seem to have. Good luck on the next phase of your journey.
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    lol, nowhere near too many characters for one post.

    Do the cardio, just don't push it very often. Perhaps go for the kind of that has you feeling better after you do it than you did before (once you get past the first week or two of getting used to doing it). Do you have a heart rate monitor?

    As you are probably aware, I know how that wheel spinning and excessive layoffs thing works.

    Indiana?
    haha wasn't sure, how I was doing with the character limit. Never had a post that long, if I do I am just going to write a book instead. I think that is the progression I am going for. I might be surprised a little by my weight when I step on the scale tomorrow but I lost some muscle over my hiatus so the increase in fat and decrease in muscle is not the balance I am looking for. I do not have a heart rate monitor but I was thinking about getting one. I have a short but somewhat expensive list of things I need to purchase to fill my gym bag.

    Yeah Indiana, very strange place in comparison to the Northeast, too flat for me long term and not nearly enough woods in this area. Although the area around Purdue is clean and the community is full of great people.

    Originally Posted by unstrong View Post
    Way to let it all out. Also, definitely not TL;DR. You're being honest with yourself, which is good, now the key is to make sure that you have something to keep you interested and committed, which you also seem to have. Good luck on the next phase of your journey.
    That's where sticking to my goals has got to happen, will forever be fighting to not be a complete noob if this keeps up the way it has been going. I will hopefully hit some intermediate stage of my lifting career sometime this year if I keep at it. Shouldn't be any road bumps as far as schedule goes in the near future.
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    Been lurking the last couple days. You were honest to yourself, this is really important. There's nothing in your way right now, go work hard buddy.

    As a suggestion: Next time you feel like you lose motivation or even miss a week, hit up the forums. IMO there's a lot of motivation on here. Post in your log, see what people respond, and hit the gym again. Best of luck my friend.
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    Been lurking the last couple days. You were honest to yourself, this is really important. There's nothing in your way right now, go work hard buddy.

    As a suggestion: Next time you feel like you lose motivation or even miss a week, hit up the forums. IMO there's a lot of motivation on here. Post in your log, see what people respond, and hit the gym again. Best of luck my friend.
    Thanks man much appreciated, I know this game all to well and along with not going to the gym I usually don't visit this forums much if at all. I may have signed in 3 times in that 7 week layoff. Good suggestion with keeping up on the routine.
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    Thanks man much appreciated, I know this game all to well and along with not going to the gym I usually don't visit this forums much if at all. I may have signed in 3 times in that 7 week layoff. Good suggestion with keeping up on the routine.
    I figured you didn't sign in very often during that time, and that's exactly what I meant. My thoughts were that going to the gym takes more than logging on here and writing a post, so if you're lacking motivation to go hit the gym the next time, maybe you can still convince yourself to post in your log. It's better than nothing and I believe that once you post on here, you'll go hit the gym again as a consequence as well.
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    I figured you didn't sign in very often during that time, and that's exactly what I meant. My thoughts were that going to the gym takes more than logging on here and writing a post, so if you're lacking motivation to go hit the gym the next time, maybe you can still convince yourself to post in your log. It's better than nothing and I believe that once you post on here, you'll go hit the gym again as a consequence as well.
    Couldn't agree more, the hardest part of staying consistent is like anything you get burnt out after a while unless you are absolutely obsessed with that particular hobby, which even in the long run can take a toll on your mental state and most likely cause you to take time off. Hell Arnold even got out of serious training for a while before he came back for his final Mr. Olympia. Not really because he hated training but he had other aspirations at that point. One of my biggest problems is I never get to the point where my routine would evolve and I advance as a lifter. My focus gets scrambled by either lingering injury pains or scheduling conflicts and I use it as an excuse to give up for a while. I am hoping my setup will change this now.



    So I made my first critical mistake today. I left my gym bag at the office and it has all my shorts, my lifting shoes, my headphones etc in it. I was going to go back but I don't have a code for the security system so I cant get in without tripping the alarm. I am not to bent out of shape about it since I am using this week to judge my lifts for the up coming beginning days of the routine so essentially I can squeeze the B test day in any time between now and Saturday, leaving me with an minimum 1 day off before starting in Monday. With that said I can't let **** like this happen especially this early on.

    I decided to get proactive and go buy a combo lock to put on a locker at the gym where I am going to leave a pair of shorts my shoes socks and a shirt so I will always have a back up and have my shoes. I can survive without headphones but working out in D1 dockers (slim fit flat front chinos), Sebago's and a Henley would just not happen.
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    01-09-14


    Weight:
    Thursday: 171.8
    Friday 171.2
    Calories

    Wednesday: 2150
    Thursday: 2135


    Workout B

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    Front Squat

    3x5 95

    Started getting some knee cave already, I think the DOMS in my quads really held me back on this, it’s atrocious. Will start here next week anyway. Will put me back to 1 plate in a month.

    Incline Bench

    3x5 95

    I went to 105 but my last rep was too slow and sloppy so I might as well start where I know I can make some good progress. Might jump this to 105 the 2nd week is 95 is too easy on 3x5 next week.

    RDL

    3x8 155

    Could probably start this higher but Even just holding this up was making my legs shake real bad. Quads are on fire and not helping me find good starting weights but that’s probably a sign of where to begin untrained for 7 weeks.


    Cable Crunches

    2x15 110

    Not too difficult, started at 80 that was too easy 90 was easy, even 100 was easy. Felt the activation @ 110 will start there.

    Summary:

    With testing over I know where to begin next week. Got my focus set on some goals to begin to work towards right away. We will see how my form looks once I start, I plan on filming each day at least 1 time per week, so Wednesday will always be filmed. I find making the videos and setting them up is a bit tedious but necessary for some lifts. Probably will just skip post processing them and just ship them off to YT.

    I almost nailed the weight I thought I was going to see when I stepped on the scale. This is almost exactly what I expected to happen lose some muscle gain some fat but keep the weight right about the same as when I stopped lifting. I think I was averaging a touch higher 173ish. Set up a locker at the gym as well, with some extra shorts socks shirt shoes chalk etc so I have no excuses now. Going to hop on the M,W,F train and hope the gym isn’t packed on those days. I can say for sure that Fridays will be dead if today was a good indicator.


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