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    Different types of ketones

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    So, as we know there are 3 different "ketones" produced by the liver, acetone, aceto-acetate and beta-hydroxybutyrate

    What I want to know is, which types of fats promote production of which types of ketones?

    So, say, if I wanted to maximise beta-hydroxybutyrate production to maximise the depression fighting effects of a ketogenic diet, would I have to focus more on a particular type of fat?

    As far as I can tell at the moment, I'm eating a reasonably good balance of saturates, monounsaturates and polyunsaturates, making sure my omega 3s and 6s are roughly in balance
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    Originally Posted by MarkoLUFC View Post
    Hi guys

    So, as we know there are 3 different "ketones" produced by the liver, acetone, aceto-acetate and beta-hydroxybutyrate

    What I want to know is, which types of fats promote production of which types of ketones?

    So, say, if I wanted to maximise beta-hydroxybutyrate production to maximise the depression fighting effects of a ketogenic diet, would I have to focus more on a particular type of fat?

    As far as I can tell at the moment, I'm eating a reasonably good balance of saturates, monounsaturates and polyunsaturates, making sure my omega 3s and 6s are roughly in balance
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    Also if you consume resistant starch via Potato Starch this will lead to thsi type of short chain fatty acid production... Look it up...
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    Originally Posted by hfce354 View Post
    Butter... Grass fed

    Also if you consume resistant starch via Potato Starch this will lead to thsi type of short chain fatty acid production... Look it up...

    Any alternatives to butter? I'm lactose intollerant
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    Originally Posted by MarkoLUFC View Post
    Any alternatives to butter? I'm lactose intollerant
    butter generally wont cause that...
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    Originally Posted by MarkoLUFC View Post
    Hi guys

    So, as we know there are 3 different "ketones" produced by the liver, acetone, aceto-acetate and beta-hydroxybutyrate

    1. What I want to know is, which types of fats promote production of which types of ketones?

    2. So, say, if I wanted to maximise beta-hydroxybutyrate production to maximise the depression fighting effects of a ketogenic diet, would I have to focus more on a particular type of fat?

    3. As far as I can tell at the moment, I'm eating a reasonably good balance of saturates, monounsaturates and polyunsaturates, making sure my omega 3s and 6s are roughly in balance
    1. All fat can be made into ketones, but only MCT (medium lenght chain fat) will result in ketones if you are not fasted for carbohydrates for a few days.

    2. All fat will become aceto-acetat as a first step, and some or most of this is then convertet into beta-hydroxybutyrate. You body will make enzymes (catalysts) that makes this process run in that direction only. Aceto-acetat can also become acetone in a spontaneous (un-catalysed) process. For this reason the body "prefers" to have aceto-acetat convertet to hydroxybutyrate. Actually the hydroxybutyrate is convertet back into aceto-acetat before it can be burned as fuel. The advantage of hydroxybutyrate is the stability while circulating with blodstream.

    3. There are no credible reasons to avoid saturated fats, as the theory about saturated fats causing heart disease has been disproven.
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