quick question...in the interest of saving money and unnecessary product purchases

[PsychoWriter]

Ok. I'm sick of taking tons of supplements. Well,don't mind so much n not taking too many but i have 3 questions here in your opinion and experience.

Before you answer a quick synopsis of my current stack. Every morning before i workout i take 5gm BCAA, 5gm creatine, 5gm AAKG and occasionally if I need an extra pump or boost I'll take a dose of C4-love it! Used to take ZMA at bedtime.

Also keep in mind with my questions below I'm not talking about protein supp or vitamins. That's a lifetime health thing for me. I don't see it as a supp.

1.If you could only take one supplement due to budget cuts or just because, what do you consider the most important? Most people think creatine. Would you agree? If not, what would you suggest if only one?

2.I take C4 on occasion for an extra boost or better workout. Would you say a pre-workout like C4 would cover and in ample dose any and all the supps I could take?

3.Depending in who you talk to, a lot of people think ZMA is a very important recovery supp to take at bedtime and that it can also increase your T levels. Don't know about the T but I was winding your opinion on ZMA in general.

Thanks for your opinions and advice.

[unknowblood25]

1. TBH the only supplement I really need is Protein Powder, others are just there. I use a Pre because I have early workouts and use BCAA because I only train fasted.

2. Yes, just take the C4 alone. Don't bother with the others use listed.

3. Skip the ZMA for now. No need for it. Just stick with the basics (Protein and Pre)

[jpfaherty]

Ok. I'm sick of taking tons of supplements. Well,don't mind so much n not taking too many but i have 3 questions here in your opinion and experience.

Before you answer a quick synopsis of my current stack. Every morning before i workout i take 5gm BCAA, 5gm creatine, 5gm AAKG and occasionally if I need an extra pump or boost I'll take a dose of C4-love it! Used to take ZMA at bedtime.

Also keep in mind with my questions below I'm not talking about protein supp or vitamins. That's a lifetime health thing for me. I don't see it as a supp.

1.If you could only take one supplement due to budget cuts or just because, what do you consider the most important? Most people think creatine. Would you agree? If not, what would you suggest if only one?

2.I take C4 on occasion for an extra boost or better workout. Would you say a pre-workout like C4 would cover and in ample dose any and all the supps I could take?

3.Depending in who you talk to, a lot of people think ZMA is a very important recovery supp to take at bedtime and that it can also increase your T levels. Don't know about the T but I was winding your opinion on ZMA in general.

Thanks for your opinions and advice.

1) Depends on your goals. If strength gain and muscle as a result is your goal then yes I'd vote creatine.

2) C4 and most pre-workouts do not contain enough creatine or BCAA's for your to get a full dose

3) ZMA can be beneficial but if you're looking to eliminate that would be my first choice

[Swamp Dog]

1. Creatine hands down.
2. Never used pre's so can't answer with authority.
3. Helps if low in those minerals, helps some with sleep, doesn't effect t levels to any appreciable degree. I don't respond well to it, it makes me restless.

[Chunkx]

3. Helps if low in those minerals, helps some with sleep, doesn't effect t levels to any appreciable degree. I don't respond well to it, it makes me restless.

This exactly.
1. Fish oil
2. I would just take caffeine pills

[YIMBROKE]

Creatine is so insanely cheap that I wouldn't even worry about it. For me I would keep my pre, I find it easy to get everything else from my diet.

[eatyourspinach]

What is the reasoning for taking AAKG?

[Problem]

AAKG? Drop that stuff.


a pre workout that has enough BCAA and creatine dose and a good profile for a preworkout aide. Something like bb.com scream or pre jym.. Solid complete products.

fish oil and invest in whey protein if you want to consider it a supplement ... IMO, Don't even waste your money on a multi.

That's all you need. you're covered ; food and good workout routine will take care of the rest.


My supp budget is somewhat flexible; so I buy some xtend(gets me to drink my 2 liters through my workout) , I also buy a non stim preworkout. That's all.. I invest in food and whey flavors.